He did sleep at Jimmys' flat the night before they went to Scarborough.If you watch the bit on the LT docu where Savile talks about the clubs and how he 'invented' zero tolerance you hear Louis saying he's going to bed and Savile says he'll wake them in the morning.
Can't find it on YouTube as the BBC seem to have taken all the videos down.
Bleugh! Yuk, but I take your word for it of course Saltydog. Maybe they stayed in a London hotel? I don't want to think of Louis in some old queen's bed.
Could Rippon have come up with the "They were teenagers at the time" line as an excuse because he was being pressurised from above and was trying to justify pulling the item?
Bleugh! Yuk, but I take your word for it of course Saltydog.
What is the whole point of this? LT was the only person who ever asked him about it publicly, do you not think his motives for staying over night were to do with unmasking him?
Could Rippon have come up with the "They were teenagers at the time" line as an excuse because he was being pressurised from above and was trying to justify pulling the item?
That and the 'it was just the women' who had said about the crimes, shows exactly what kind cowardly and victim-blaming mentality allowed this to go on so long.
That's right. There are no videos whatso ever now of when Louis me Jimmy. the BBC are just making things look even more guilty than ever. what the hell have they to hide?
What they should have done last night. Instead of Panorama they should have shown the Newsnight about Savile.
The full episode is here, the BBC Youtube channel videos of Jimmy Saville may have been removed by the BBC for completely understandable reasons like not thinking it right to keep them there under the circumstances. In the same way places have removed plaques and memorobilia etc
The full episode is here, the BBC Youtube channel videos may have been removed by the BBC for completely understandable reasons like not thinking it right to keep them there under the circumstances.
Yes, like they might have been told to remove them by the police. Dumb though, when it can be viewed elsewhere. :rolleyes:
I wonder if this will be the beginning of another discussion about Internet censorship - with regard to jeopardising criminal investigations and proceedings, etc.
Bleugh! Yuk, but I take your word for it of course Saltydog. Maybe they stayed in a London hotel? I don't want to think of Louis in some old queen's bed.
I doubt he was in Savile's bed.
He had some guest rooms. His flat's still for sale.
The full episode is here, the BBC Youtube channel videos of Jimmy Saville may have been removed by the BBC for completely understandable reasons like not thinking it right to keep them there under the circumstances. In the same way places have removed plaques and memorobilia etc
Could Rippon have come up with the "They were teenagers at the time" line as an excuse because he was being pressurised from above and was trying to justify pulling the item?
Possibly - although I honestly believe like Rippons work colleagues and management have said that there was no pressure from above.
Remember a lot of people were kids at the time. There wasn't things like Child Line then, There needs a lot of time and proof what went on. Police and the BBC will take as long as it takes.
I think we have all jumped on the bandwagon and need now to step back cause there may well be criminal proceedings, and other dark secrets could emerge over time. Unless you were the victim, you don't know what went on and as I said " Most were kids at the time " and can be hard for them to open up now.
Too late whatever54.
Bill Maloney's already claimed that JS signed his death warrant by making the documentary with Louis Theroux. Must have taken the assassins some time to come up with a scheme, nine years in fact.
did he mean that literally or metaphorically,for instance how many of his high powered friends attended his funeral(i really don't know) perhaps someone can enlighten me. (i didn't watch his funeral because i believed he was a paedo well before then ) i am still astonished it took a further year before the s... hit the fan.
I believe he meant literally - that (should these people exist ) there would be concerns regarding the risk JS was taking in being outed by the LT programme (and thus outing others), and he was too much of a liability.
Nowadays anyone who wants to can google the sexual revolution in the soviet union after the revolution in 1917, the immense damage it caused, and how it was completely reversed some years later.
Ah. So you think sexual liberation caused all the SU's problems then, and you support Stalin.
That's off the main point though
I wasn't the one who posted a probably fake quotation from Lenin.
Ah. So you think sexual liberation caused all the SU's problems then, and you support Stalin.
I wasn't the one who posted a probably fake quotation from Lenin.
Straw man and "probably" straw man.
The main point - again - is the way individuals with a particular sexual agenda can jump on other bandwagons and use them for their own purposes which is related to the original question which was about how the NCCL came to be promoting a particular view on incest and paedophilia.
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Or have 2 independent sources who can corroborate the story.
Those cases have all been between adults, still wrong but different psychology to what happens with children.
What is the whole point of this? LT was the only person who ever asked him about it publicly, do you not think his motives for staying over night were to do with unmasking him?
That and the 'it was just the women' who had said about the crimes, shows exactly what kind cowardly and victim-blaming mentality allowed this to go on so long.
The full episode is here, the BBC Youtube channel videos of Jimmy Saville may have been removed by the BBC for completely understandable reasons like not thinking it right to keep them there under the circumstances. In the same way places have removed plaques and memorobilia etc
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xu2udi_when-louis-theroux-met-jimmy-saville_news
Yes, like they might have been told to remove them by the police. Dumb though, when it can be viewed elsewhere. :rolleyes:
I wonder if this will be the beginning of another discussion about Internet censorship - with regard to jeopardising criminal investigations and proceedings, etc.
I doubt he was in Savile's bed.
He had some guest rooms. His flat's still for sale.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-35500405.html
Edit: 21.50 in.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xu2udi_when-louis-theroux-met-jimmy-saville_news
Understandable reasons like hiding the evidence?
Possibly - although I honestly believe like Rippons work colleagues and management have said that there was no pressure from above.
Just a question of looking at the layout and the pictures on the estate agents website and comparing them with the LT programme. It's the same place.
I think we have all jumped on the bandwagon and need now to step back cause there may well be criminal proceedings, and other dark secrets could emerge over time. Unless you were the victim, you don't know what went on and as I said " Most were kids at the time " and can be hard for them to open up now.
Yep - see what you mean!
(awful taste in decor)
did he mean that literally or metaphorically,for instance how many of his high powered friends attended his funeral(i really don't know) perhaps someone can enlighten me. (i didn't watch his funeral because i believed he was a paedo well before then ) i am still astonished it took a further year before the s... hit the fan.
All pure conjecture on my part!
Ah. So you think sexual liberation caused all the SU's problems then, and you support Stalin.
I wasn't the one who posted a probably fake quotation from Lenin.
Straw man and "probably" straw man.
The main point - again - is the way individuals with a particular sexual agenda can jump on other bandwagons and use them for their own purposes which is related to the original question which was about how the NCCL came to be promoting a particular view on incest and paedophilia.
Nowadays anyone can google the subject e.g.
http://www.mcg-j.org/english/e-theory/lenin/Lenin-4.html
http://www.marxists.org/archive/zetkin/1920/lenin/zetkin1.htm
Although reading the second one it does sound like Lenin was against the glass of water theory although i don't know if that was with hindsight.
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