Do you support the right of people to rule themselves? Because if you are getting into that subject we will be here a long time. Do you think the RAF were right to slaughter thousands of German civilians?
Well I think most Protestants, like most Catholics, are decent people who try to live their life according to their faith.
So if you think that Protestants are decent people who try to live life according to their faith, Why did you support a group that targeted them with violence.
Just wondering, but the reformation was a long time ago. And I love you all.
With respect, this thread misses the post. Whilst there might be outposts of sectarian bigotry, such unwholesome sentiments aren't widespread in modern societies and where it does occur it should be countered, e.g. such as by the efforts that are currently being undertaken in Scotland.
One must also separate out ordinary practitioners from the organisation itself and the failings of the organisation, e.g over abuse, harsh punishment, financial scandals, etc when it must be realised that legitimate criticisms over the responses and lack of action in respect of these breaches of trust is not the same as bigotry and anti-Catholicism especially since many of those criticisms come from the lay members of the church themselves.
So if you think that Protestants are decent people who try to live life according to their faith, Why did you support a group that targeted them with violence.
Do you support the right of people to rule themselves? Because if you are getting into that subject we will be here a long time. Do you think the RAF were right to slaughter thousands of German civilians?
Presumably that's your way of getting around answering whether you supported the IRA and what they did?
You have claimed that Catholics have suffered too much persecution and that no acts of violence have been committed in the name of catholicism and later in the thread you compared the acts of the provisional IRA to that of the RAF Are you not noticing the irony of that?
Well you obviously have never supported violence for political ends. For example, what is your opinion on the fourteen murders carried out by the British army on Bloody Sunday?
Well you obviously have never supported violence for political ends. For example, what is your opinion on the fourteen murders carried out by the British army on Bloody Sunday?
They were wrong,illegal and those involved should have been prosecuted and wern't
With respect, this thread misses the post. Whilst there might be outposts of sectarian bigotry, such unwholesome sentiments aren't widespread in modern societies and where it does occur it should be countered, e.g. such as by the efforts that are currently being undertaken in Scotland.
One must also separate out ordinary practitioners from the organisation itself and the failings of the organisation, e.g over abuse, harsh punishment, financial scandals, etc when it must be realised that legitimate criticisms over the responses and lack of action in respect of these breaches of trust is not the same as bigotry and anti-Catholicism especially since many of those criticisms come from the lay members of the church themselves.
I think anti Catholic sentiment shows itself in basic ways. Whenever people criticise the Church they do so in almost pornographic terms, phrases like buggering and references to altar boys and other homo erotic fantasies. I think there are genuine critics but some of the language is disturbing to say the least. A cursory glance at various laws in Britain will show that anti Catholic bigotry is very real.
Have you ever supported the use of violence for political ends?
No I haven't. Are you going to answer the question anytime soon or do you plan to continue to turn it around and ask whoever is asking you at the time? Otherwise people may assume by you not answering that particular question that you did support them but don't want to openly say so on a predominantly British forum.
I think anti Catholic sentiment shows itself in basic ways. Whenever people criticise the Church they do so in almost pornographic terms, phrases like buggering and references to altar boys and other homo erotic fantasies. I think there are genuine critics but some of the language is disturbing to say the least. A cursory glance at various laws in Britain will show that anti Catholic bigotry is very real.
Which of Britain's laws show you that anti Catholic bigotry is very real?
I think anti Catholic sentiment shows itself in basic ways. Whenever people criticise the Church they do so in almost pornographic terms, phrases like buggering and references to altar boys and other homo erotic fantasies. I think there are genuine critics but some of the language is disturbing to say the least. A cursory glance at various laws in Britain will show that anti Catholic bigotry is very real.
You mean language like
"Catholicism has Perpetrated the greatest forms of cruelty and violations of justice"?
So why when I asked you earlier if you supported the political aims of the IRA and the methods used to achieve them you intimated that you did.
If you want to get into the history of the conflict that is fine. Check out the murders of Catholics carried out a few days before that incident. Are you aware of them at all?
If you want to get into the history of the conflict that is fine. Check out the murders of Catholics carried out a few days before that incident. Are you aware of them at all?
Please find where I said those murders where right or justified, killing,discriminating intimidating or violence any one on grounds of their religion is wrong in any circumstance
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So there are no loony Protestant groups who hate Jews?
Northern Ireland chose to remain part of the United Kingdom in 1973 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland_sovereignty_referendum,_1973
And in 1922 Northern Ireland left the Irish Free state
That is self determination.
Did I say that?, no I think protestants are just as nutty as the catholics.
Well I think most Protestants, like most Catholics, are decent people who try to live their life according to their faith.
People should be free to believe what they want but the ****tarded decisions committed in their name are right to be criticised.
So if you think that Protestants are decent people who try to live life according to their faith, Why did you support a group that targeted them with violence.
With respect, this thread misses the post. Whilst there might be outposts of sectarian bigotry, such unwholesome sentiments aren't widespread in modern societies and where it does occur it should be countered, e.g. such as by the efforts that are currently being undertaken in Scotland.
One must also separate out ordinary practitioners from the organisation itself and the failings of the organisation, e.g over abuse, harsh punishment, financial scandals, etc when it must be realised that legitimate criticisms over the responses and lack of action in respect of these breaches of trust is not the same as bigotry and anti-Catholicism especially since many of those criticisms come from the lay members of the church themselves.
Sorry, I didn`t realise you were a pacifist.
Presumably that's your way of getting around answering whether you supported the IRA and what they did?
What does that mean? Y
Well you obviously have never supported violence for political ends. For example, what is your opinion on the fourteen murders carried out by the British army on Bloody Sunday?
They were wrong,illegal and those involved should have been prosecuted and wern't
Have you ever supported the use of violence for political ends?
What do you think of the IRA murder of the protestant kingsmill employees?
I think anti Catholic sentiment shows itself in basic ways. Whenever people criticise the Church they do so in almost pornographic terms, phrases like buggering and references to altar boys and other homo erotic fantasies. I think there are genuine critics but some of the language is disturbing to say the least. A cursory glance at various laws in Britain will show that anti Catholic bigotry is very real.
No I haven't. Are you going to answer the question anytime soon or do you plan to continue to turn it around and ask whoever is asking you at the time? Otherwise people may assume by you not answering that particular question that you did support them but don't want to openly say so on a predominantly British forum.
Which of Britain's laws show you that anti Catholic bigotry is very real?
You mean language like
"Catholicism has Perpetrated the greatest forms of cruelty and violations of justice"?
It was wrong and the people who did it were wicked.
So why when I asked you earlier if you supported the political aims of the IRA and the methods used to achieve them you intimated that you did.
No, I mean Catholicism is just and the Church has done more good than evil.
Was the language I quoted you consider an example of anti-catholic bigotry?
If you want to get into the history of the conflict that is fine. Check out the murders of Catholics carried out a few days before that incident. Are you aware of them at all?
Please find where I said those murders where right or justified, killing,discriminating intimidating or violence any one on grounds of their religion is wrong in any circumstance