Is EastEnders Really in HD ?
Having seen criticism on various threads I've watched a couple of episodes of EastEnders this week and really doubt whether it is in HD. I know the BBC made a big song and dance just before Christmas but I honestly cannot see any difference between the ''HD'' and SD picture quality whereas I have excellent HD quality on other channels and indeed on BBC1 where programmes really are in HD. Is it me or the BBC ?
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BBC should be ashamed for the way they've pushed Enders as being in HD.
I read these stars don't like to look to in detail in HD.
If it is HD its not a good pic on Freesat anyway
Probably!
Or, not debated as I do not recall anyone thinking this looks like HD after watching.
So if everyone in the universe can apparenty see the problem apart from the BBC something is very wrong.
I have even heard the voiceover suggest you watch on BBC 1 HD to see it in 'glorious HD'.
Did not know that the BBC were now providing viewers with free bottles of vodka (though they might help if you watch East Enders daily)...but that would be the only way you would ever think this rubbish is glorious HD.
As I have said on numerous other threads the real tester is that not only is Coronation Street on ITV 1 HD obviously HD (you do not ever need to ask IF it is) but Emmerdale - filmed with HD cameras but not yet with HD post production so still upscaled is actually more like HD than Enders.
That alone proves there is a major problem somewhere.
But, of course, the BBC have for months run away from all complaints about what happened with the drop in PQ. So what do you do?
The BBC studios and post-production web site said clearly before Christmas that all the Elstree facilities used by EE had been upgraded, Albert Square and the three studios they use. I'm glad I'm not the only one who has noticed this:eek:
well it is a good 20 miles + away from those sites!!
i've noticed that a 1/2 hour episode takes up max 2% on planner where as a ch4 hd/sky 1 hd/living hd take up 3 or 4 % for the same time
This is part of the style and I think you have put your finger on an important point - sharpness all the way to the horizon is actually unnatural but look great in HD ....
The BBC has always made HD look more natural .. and "takes care "over depth of field,
As it is really only EE which looks depressed ... it is not the codecs (which measure better than the original 16M ones)
based purely on resolution (and that's what HD basically is), then it is IS HD no matter how much you argue.
whether the bitrate or grain level or whatever is up to anyone's standard is a different debate.
i could create a 1280x720 file that has a pathetic bitrate, and it still technically would be HD.
It's a pathetic example made even worse by the way the BBC have been shouting from the rooftops about how it's now in HD.
Well it is 1440 *1080i and it has information at those spacial frequencies - unlike an upscale .. so it is HD
There has been a lot of talk on these boards about "the HD look" ( which does not really exist) ... and so we have to presume that the directors / producers of EE want it to look like it is .. which does seem to to appeal to (any/every) one.
remember Casualty Film look ... and we have Spooks never being HD for good reasons - ... which the Directors says are important to their art - which I think we all respect..
They can do what they want with it, if it looks crap to the viewer then its pointless and all stuff bar live shows look crap on BBCHD
BBCHD used to be demo quality many years ago, now its only saved from being bottom of the pile by E4HD.
I watched half on Sky and the other half on Freeview
Sky had the better picture in HD.
But it is still much less good than either Coronation Street on ITV HD or Hollyoaks on Channel 4 HD.