For me, he's basically a tory with a run-away ego. He gains votes by feeding off people's fears. Fear of immigrants. Fear of losing your job and your house. Vote for us and we can allay your fears.
I don't agree. I don't find his message fearful or scary at all. Maybe you're confusing him with Nick Clegg who said during the TV debates that without Europe we'd be at the mercy of terrorism, pedophiles and we'd all lose our jobs....
Farage has for me always expressed a positive view that without the restrictions Europe places on us we can succeed and we can do well as a country. I don't feel scared my job is under threat.. I feel angry the country has no control over immigration from Europe. There's a difference.
He even ended the debates on a positive note bigging up the UK as a country and pointed out that Clegg didn't once praise the EU and it's positives.. he simply injected as much fear as possible into the debate.
I don't agree. I don't find his message fearful or scary at all. Maybe you're confusing him with Nick Clegg who said during the TV debates that without Europe we'd be at the mercy of terrorism, pedophiles and we'd all lose our jobs....
Farage has for me always expressed a positive view that without the restrictions Europe places on us we can succeed and we can do well as a country. I don't feel scared my job is under threat.. I feel angry the country has no control over immigration from Europe. There's a difference.
He even ended the debates on a positive note bigging up the UK as a country and pointed out that Clegg didn't once praise the EU and it's positives.. he simply injected as much fear as possible into the debate.
yeah well said, there seems to be a lot of Nick Clegg wannabes on here, using exactly the same line of attack. If they are serious about winning people back over from UKIP, they are going to have to start focusing on the positives of being in the EU, not nit picking Nigel Farage.
To be fair, people complaining about immigration and jobs are more focused on immigrants depressing wages because they come from much poorer countries. It's not quite the same argument if you're talking about people coming from Germany, France, Scandinavia etc.
I thought it was "just about numbers"...that is what I keep seeing on here?
To be fair, people complaining about immigration and jobs are more focused on immigrants depressing wages because they come from much poorer countries. It's not quite the same argument if you're talking about people coming from Germany, France, Scandinavia etc.
You don't understand supply and demand then.
You increase the supply the price comes down, no matter what strata of job.
Faux rage should sack her immediately and get in a true Brit to do the job.
Otherwise he is just a hypocrite.
I look forward to the amended posters.
I imagine the strapline would run something like
"My wife, coming to take your job" over a pic of Nige puffing on a montecristo with all his city mates having a brandy paid for by his MEP allowance!
You increase the supply the price comes down, no matter what strata of job.
Faux rage should sack her immediately and get in a true Brit to do the job.
Otherwise he is just a hypocrite.
I look forward to the amended posters.
I imagine the strapline would run something like
"My wife, coming to take your job" over a pic of Nige puffing on a montecristo with all his city mates having a brandy paid for by his MEP allowance!
yeah but he is not against ALL immigration just uncontrolled immigration. Also it only a bleedin poster. Talk about reading far too much into things and trying to create an argument out of it.
However, I don't think Robinson was actually attacking policy - he was attacking the message behind the poster, which Farage doesn't apparently subscribe to (or he does, but with obvious exceptions which see him deem it ok for some EU citizens to take our jobs).
The trouble for Farage is that the reason he gives for employing a German is precisely the reason why many employers are giving for not employing British Workers So it seems he wants the freedom to employ a non-British worker while denying it to others. Now ignoring the pros and cons of the British workers do not want the work argument - this is hypocritical at best.
The trouble for Farage is that the reason he gives for employing a German is precisely the reason why many employers are giving for not employing British Workers So it seems he wants the freedom to employ a non-British worker while denying it to others. Now ignoring the pros and cons of the British workers do not want the work argument - this is hypocritical at best.
Nothing as far as I am concerned but employers have complained that British workers do not want to work for the money on offer, or for the hours and do not have the skills required.
Personally I think that is codswallop - what do you expect when you depress wages by increasing the supply of Labour, and then with the same policy increase the demand for housing and it's cost - driving up the incomes people need to live.
Then to add insult to injury do nothing to encourage companies to actually train people with the skills that companies complain they don't have.
"...comes over here...takes our jobs....blah blah blah"
Hoisted by your own petard. The tabloids love when someone falls foul of the same thing they decry elsewhere. Same reason they dined out on Major's government having affairs all over the place - because Major made such a big deal of "family values".
I instinctively don't like Farage or what he has to say but I get that feeling with 90% of politicians.
weak minded? What a load of condescending crap.>:( seriously these arguments against UKIP are getting more and more ridiculous by the day. How about someone from the opposition actually put a real counter argument to why we should stay in the EU? Why we should embrace uncontrolled immigration? How job prosperity will increase under the EU? That would be a start at least.
I agree. How long does camron need to take to give us our negotiated deal with europe! He cant.......
weak minded? What a load of condescending crap.>:( seriously these arguments against UKIP are getting more and more ridiculous by the day. How about someone from the opposition actually put a real counter argument to why we should stay in the EU? Why we should embrace uncontrolled immigration? How job prosperity will increase under the EU? That would be a start at least.
People who buy into Farage are weak minded and are falling for the same old tricks that countless others have fallen for for countless years.
The man is laughing all the way to the bank knowing full well that the UK will NEVER leave the EU.
Farage will change nothing so get used to being let down.
Nothing as far as I am concerned but employers have complained that British workers do not want to work for the money on offer, or for the hours and do not have the skills required.
Personally I think that is codswallop - what do you expect when you depress wages by increasing the supply of Labour, and then with the same policy increase the demand for housing and it's cost - driving up the incomes people need to live.
Then to add insult to injury do nothing to encourage companies to actually train people with the skills that companies complain they don't have.
That would be because employers like to have a huge pool of cheap willing labour, mostly unskilled labour, and your solution is remaining in the EU and carry on as before.
The large multi-nationals must really love people like you who fight their cause for them.
Bloody pro Europeans always making excuses for immigration by suggesting British workers are lazy....
Yep, apparently British workers are lazy, but the ones camped out on benefits are just victimised, misunderstood and picked on. Talk about chalk and cheese eh?
Yep, apparently British workers are lazy, but the ones camped out on benefits are just victimised, misunderstood and picked on. Talk about chalk and cheese eh?
Is that like the immigrants who are simultaneously taking our jobs and living on benefits?
Is that like the immigrants who are simultaneously taking our jobs and living on benefits?
No apparently these immigrants are a financial benefit to the economy and country, by showing just how lazy the British workers are by working for less and for longer hours. All the benefits paid out in order to compensate for this saturated lower paid work force are well worth it.
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I don't agree. I don't find his message fearful or scary at all. Maybe you're confusing him with Nick Clegg who said during the TV debates that without Europe we'd be at the mercy of terrorism, pedophiles and we'd all lose our jobs....
Farage has for me always expressed a positive view that without the restrictions Europe places on us we can succeed and we can do well as a country. I don't feel scared my job is under threat.. I feel angry the country has no control over immigration from Europe. There's a difference.
He even ended the debates on a positive note bigging up the UK as a country and pointed out that Clegg didn't once praise the EU and it's positives.. he simply injected as much fear as possible into the debate.
yeah well said, there seems to be a lot of Nick Clegg wannabes on here, using exactly the same line of attack. If they are serious about winning people back over from UKIP, they are going to have to start focusing on the positives of being in the EU, not nit picking Nigel Farage.
I thought it was "just about numbers"...that is what I keep seeing on here?
So he is breaking quite a few of those pesky employment laws he wants rid of.
You don't understand supply and demand then.
You increase the supply the price comes down, no matter what strata of job.
Faux rage should sack her immediately and get in a true Brit to do the job.
Otherwise he is just a hypocrite.
I look forward to the amended posters.
I imagine the strapline would run something like
"My wife, coming to take your job" over a pic of Nige puffing on a montecristo with all his city mates having a brandy paid for by his MEP allowance!
yeah but he is not against ALL immigration just uncontrolled immigration. Also it only a bleedin poster. Talk about reading far too much into things and trying to create an argument out of it.
The trouble for Farage is that the reason he gives for employing a German is precisely the reason why many employers are giving for not employing British Workers So it seems he wants the freedom to employ a non-British worker while denying it to others. Now ignoring the pros and cons of the British workers do not want the work argument - this is hypocritical at best.
What's the problem with British workers then?
The 'racist card' is being played by Farage, not the other way around as Ukip members would suggest.
Nope, it's being played YOU
If you're quick, you wil be able to correct what you wrote.
Nothing as far as I am concerned but employers have complained that British workers do not want to work for the money on offer, or for the hours and do not have the skills required.
Personally I think that is codswallop - what do you expect when you depress wages by increasing the supply of Labour, and then with the same policy increase the demand for housing and it's cost - driving up the incomes people need to live.
Then to add insult to injury do nothing to encourage companies to actually train people with the skills that companies complain they don't have.
Hoisted by your own petard. The tabloids love when someone falls foul of the same thing they decry elsewhere. Same reason they dined out on Major's government having affairs all over the place - because Major made such a big deal of "family values".
I instinctively don't like Farage or what he has to say but I get that feeling with 90% of politicians.
It seems some little tinkers have run a spoof ad and 649 Brits have applied for the job as his PA / Secretary in the past 12 hours.
He answered the questions truthfully.
He gets more respect than people who give political bull shi answers.
I agree. How long does camron need to take to give us our negotiated deal with europe! He cant.......
People who buy into Farage are weak minded and are falling for the same old tricks that countless others have fallen for for countless years.
The man is laughing all the way to the bank knowing full well that the UK will NEVER leave the EU.
Farage will change nothing so get used to being let down.
That would be because employers like to have a huge pool of cheap willing labour, mostly unskilled labour, and your solution is remaining in the EU and carry on as before.
The large multi-nationals must really love people like you who fight their cause for them.
Bloody pro Europeans always making excuses for immigration by suggesting British workers are lazy....
Yep, apparently British workers are lazy, but the ones camped out on benefits are just victimised, misunderstood and picked on. Talk about chalk and cheese eh?
Is that like the immigrants who are simultaneously taking our jobs and living on benefits?
Bloody immigrants, taking our jobs and our benefits >:(
No apparently these immigrants are a financial benefit to the economy and country, by showing just how lazy the British workers are by working for less and for longer hours. All the benefits paid out in order to compensate for this saturated lower paid work force are well worth it.
And all our houses and living 50 to a room
Tell me on thing he has said or implied that is racist!