A link between Agatha chistie ep and journeys end
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Now theres loads of threads out there asking what the links are for certain eps to journeys end. I think ive knocked the unicorn and the wasp into its place 
Near the end, the Doctor says to donna you can only hope you'll be remembered and you'll never know.
in journeys end, Donna "dies" and the doctor says to wilf: theres millions of people out there singing donnas name, and she'll never know.
Link???
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Near the end, the Doctor says to donna you can only hope you'll be remembered and you'll never know.
in journeys end, Donna "dies" and the doctor says to wilf: theres millions of people out there singing donnas name, and she'll never know.
Link???
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I re-watched 'The Sontaran Strategem' yesterday - the Atmos device in Sylvia's car was described as being in a pocket of time, 1 second ahead.
Wonder where we hear that again?
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Cypher
Aww well spotted
Obviously I didn't realise quite how poignant that would turn out to be!!
donna was in both episodes
so was the doctor
honestly, all the episodes had little clues in them
except of course, the doctors daughter which was indeed pants and pointless
Er so you dont think another timelord grown out of the DNA from his right hand, wasnt a clue?
Thats what I said
Ok the actual scientific process was not the same, but the actual concept, was a clue.
We are not talking about quality of the episode, besides Moffatt obviously has plans for her.
fires of pompeii - pyrovilia
planet of the ood - doctordonna
sontaren stratagem - 1 second pocket of time (+ below)
poison sky - cloning (+ above)
doctors daughter - cloning + DNA
unicorn and the wasp - not remembering
silence in the library - planets/moons as machines
forest of the dead - (as above)
midnight - lost moon of poosh?
turn left - normal people sacrificing for the doctor?
is that right?
Very clever writing.
Blimey, I'd missed that one! Of course!
"Your Song must end soon," said the Ood.
and she did!
Series 4...despite not having a word arch like the previous series'....has seemed the most interconnected series...everytime I watch an episode again I keep thinking...."oh yeah!" For example if you look at TUATW where Donna leads the wasp into the water by throwing the chain/locket....she replies that she had too...she becomes a killer to an extent...when she was the one who moaned at the Doctor for killing the Racknoss's children...something again that we revist in JE when Davros reveals the soul of the Doctor....
Absolutly brilliant series:)
Agreed. I think this series stands above the others overall. Certainly haven't wanted to rewatch other series episodes half as much as those from this one
It puzzled me at the time, because of course Agatha Christie lived long enough to have a very good idea of how well she'd be remembered. She may (or may not) have thought much of her own work, but it was clearly hugely popular and she received many awards and honours in her lifetime.
PiC: Adipose Three + Bees
FoP: i) she is returning [but we all knew that
ii) Something on your back [to turn left]
iii) Pyrovilia
TpotO: i)DoctorDonna
ii) Song ending soon- Either River Song or the Doctor getting shot.
iii) Bees
TsS: Broken Moon of the Medusa Cascade
pocket in Time
TpS: Sacrifice of Rattigan + Project Indigo [Teleportation from the Sontarans]
TdD: Sacrifice of Jenny
Manipulating DNA [Like Davros ---> Daleks/ Doctor
> Daleks
TuatW: Buzzy bees disappearing
The fact of being remembered
SiL: River Song never heard of Donna
FotD: Planets as machines
Doctors name
M: Lost Moon Of Poosh
I personally think the Doctor saying Rose Tyler Martha Jones Donna Noble maybe meant something
The Doctors name was arisen.
TL: Rose
I said the Doctors name above because i believe that when Davros called him the destroyer of worlds he named him forever.
I know it was posted before but i am just adding to that list.
thanks for all the praise for the finding, and there has been even more great theories involving story arcs and links.
Yes I felt she knew OF her and what happened to her i.e the Doctor having to wipe her memory of their time together and what that would mean for Donna. That's why she avoided mentioning to Donna what happens to her.
I also watched The Ood again the other night and thought the mention of the song ending soon was referring to Donna, I didn't even think of River Song!!! Again I have to say, sheer genius this series!!!!
I think its more a reference to Doomsday, after the Ood said "Your song must end soon", a snippet of the Doomsday score is heard for a few seconds. Doomsday is the song of The Doctor and Rose's seperation. It ended because she came back
PiC: Adipose Three + Bees & Rose Tyler & The Shadow Proclamtion
FoP: she is returning, Something on your back, Pyrovilia, Shadow Prcolamtions & Mesuda Cascade
TpotO: DoctorDonna, "I think you're song must end soon" Doomsday song is heard, Bees
TsS: Broken Moon of the Medusa Cascade, Pocket in Time, Martha Jones
TpS: Sacrifice of Rattigan + Project Indigo [Teleportation from the Sontarans], Rose Tyler
TdD: Sacrifice of Jenny, Manipulating DNA [Like Davros ---> Daleks/ Doctor -----> Daleks] Hand in the jar
TuatW: Buzzy bees disappearing, The fact of being remembered.
SiL: River Song never heard of Donna, Pictures of a Blonde Girl & A Wolf"
FotD: Planets as machines, Doctors name , River Song's Sacarfice
M: Lost Moon Of Poosh, Rose Tyler, Martha Jones, Donna Noble, Tardis, Medusa Cascade, Sacarfice of the hostess, Rose Shouting "Doctor"
TL: Rose, The Darkness(Stars are going out), Bees Disappaering, Jark Harness, Gwen Cooper, Ianto Jones, Sarah Jane & Luke Smith, Martha Jones <-- they would all be there for the final.
Yep you got it in one!