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Most viewers of TV haven't a clue what they are talking about.

i4ui4u Posts: 55,005
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Having read many 'points of view' on social media, it would seem there are many who have no idea what goes into making a programme. So their comments are quite often not worth the electronic page they are written on.

Often criticism isn't based on fact or an informed opinion but on hatred for an individual, programme or TV channel.

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    Molly BloomMolly Bloom Posts: 2,318
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    Most people are not nerds (not using that word as an insult, btw) who pour over every last detail of something. Most people are also not that techincal (I see whole threads about aspect ratio but the average person will just not even notice, let alone care). I think when people have a "nerdy" hobby like Broadcasting they just don't remember that they are in a minority when it comes to their knowledge and level of obsession.

    With this in mind, I think the general public should be forgiven when they complain about something that only small minority really understand the workings of. I think you are giving people too hard a time, OP.
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    i4ui4u Posts: 55,005
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    Granted they may not have technical detail, so why do they slam a programme over something they have no knowledge. Surely they should ask or query first rather than assert as something as if it is fact.

    Comments that male me really laugh are those about people taking part in a programme, such 'did you see the look they gave' or the classic 'they clearly don't like each other'. It's so funny when you know they are best friends and socialise with each other.
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    dans_t16sdans_t16s Posts: 768
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    The average person watches something to be entertained or informed. If they find it uninformative or not entertaining they will often complain. What's wrong with that?
    If the average Joe Public don't like a show then the makers or broadcasters of that show have failed.
    99.9% of shows are broadcast for the viewing pleasure of the general public, not 'nerds' as the poster above put it.

    I don't see a problem.
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    molliepopsmolliepops Posts: 26,828
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    i4u wrote: »
    Granted they may not have technical detail, so why do they slam a programme over something they have no knowledge. Surely they should ask or query first rather than assert as something as if it is fact.

    Comments that male me really laugh are those about people taking part in a programme, such 'did you see the look they gave' or the classic 'they clearly don't like each other'. It's so funny when you know they are best friends and socialise with each other.

    If that's true perhaps some of them need acting lessons because they are not exactly succeeding in portraying the part they are supposed to if others mistake liking and loving for animosity !
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    Heston VestonHeston Veston Posts: 6,495
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    i4u wrote: »
    Having read many 'points of view' on social media, it would seem there are many who have no idea what goes into making a programme. So their comments are quite often not worth the electronic page they are written on.

    Often criticism isn't based on fact or an informed opinion but on hatred for an individual, programme or TV channel.

    Uninformed opinion on the internet, what a shocker.
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    Doghouse RileyDoghouse Riley Posts: 32,491
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    i4u wrote: »
    Having read many 'points of view' on social media, it would seem there are many who have no idea what goes into making a programme. So their comments are quite often not worth the electronic page they are written on.

    Often criticism isn't based on fact or an informed opinion but on hatred for an individual, programme or TV channel.

    Forums aside...

    No one should be taken in by that fluffy bit of nonsense and promotional vehicle for the BBC called "Points of View."

    Selecting a few letters from the hundreds and thousands they receive every year, they can present any perception of the intelligence of the general public they choose.

    Does anyone really think they'd air any intelligently written letter, which would cause them serious embarrassment?

    The programme's been going for over forty years and has not changed in that time.
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    boxxboxx Posts: 5,335
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    Do you have an example OP, or is this just rampant generalisation?
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    carl.waringcarl.waring Posts: 35,705
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    Does anyone really think they'd air any intelligently written letter, which would cause them serious embarrassment?
    That's assuming they get any, of course ;)

    And, of course, the OP was obviously not referring to the actually BBC TV programme of that name as they clearly mentioned "social media". But you seem to have a bee in your bonnet about it for some reason. LOL. As soon as I read the phrase I thought "I bet I can guess who'll be along shortly with a comment" :D
    boxx wrote: »
    Do you have an example OP, or is this just rampant generalisation?
    Try watching this - or any - week's Newswatch. Plenty of examples on there of "complaints" that, when thought through with a bit of common sense, become complete nonsense.

    Example.

    Complaint: "With all the tragedy going on in [wherever], is David Dimbleby getting a tattoo really newsworthy?"

    Well, if that was (ie the tattoo) the dominant item of any given news programme they might have had a point, but it wasn't so they don't. It was a couple of minutes well after all the other news has been reported in depth.

    There have been many such examples over the years.
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    Doghouse RileyDoghouse Riley Posts: 32,491
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    That's assuming they get any, of course ;)

    And, of course, the OP was obviously not referring to the actually BBC TV programme of that name as they clearly mentioned "social media". But you seem to have a bee in your bonnet about it for some reason. LOL. As soon as I read the phrase I thought "I bet I can guess who'll be along shortly with a comment" :D

    You're killing me!
    You can say that after all your predictable nightly nit-picking that follows my every post on the Points of View thread?
    You just don't understand how funny is your obsession.

    I did say "forums aside" is that not a form of social media?
    Try watching this - or any - week's Newswatch. Plenty of examples on there of "complaints" that, when thought through with a bit of common sense, become complete nonsense.

    Example.

    Complaint: "With all the tragedy going on in [wherever], is David Dimbleby getting a tattoo really newsworthy?"

    Well, if that was (ie the tattoo) the dominant item of any given news programme they might have had a point, but it wasn't so they don't. It was a couple of minutes well after all the other news has been reported in depth.

    There have been many such examples over the years.

    You missed the point over the tattoo.
    It wasn't even "news" he got it at least three months ago.

    Doh!
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    TRIPSTRIPS Posts: 3,714
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    i4u wrote: »
    Granted they may not have technical detail, so why do they slam a programme over something they have no knowledge. Surely they should ask or query first rather than assert as something as if it is fact.

    Comments that male me really laugh are those about people taking part in a programme, such 'did you see the look they gave' or the classic 'they clearly don't like each other'. It's so funny when you know they are best friends and socialise with each other.
    So what you are saying has nothing to do with the technicalities of making a program, (why that is relevant i don't know anyway.) but the public slagging celebrities off when they don't know anything about them or their personal life.?
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    ScenciaScencia Posts: 271
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    You're killing me!
    You can say that after all your predictable nightly nit-picking that follows my every post on the Points of View thread?
    You just don't understand how funny is your obsession.

    I did say "forums aside" is that not a form of social media?



    You missed the point over the tattoo.
    It wasn't even "news" he got it at least three months ago.

    Doh!

    Unless you are under the age of 10 or still living in 1996 then its just plain embarrassing signing off a post with 'Doh'
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    Rowan HedgeRowan Hedge Posts: 3,861
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    i4u wrote: »
    Having read many 'points of view' on social media, it would seem there are many who have no idea what goes into making a programme. So their comments are quite often not worth the electronic page they are written on.

    Often criticism isn't based on fact or an informed opinion but on hatred for an individual, programme or TV channel.

    I take it you include yourself in that summarization.
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    RichmondBlueRichmondBlue Posts: 21,279
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    i4u wrote: »
    Having read many 'points of view' on social media, it would seem there are many who have no idea what goes into making a programme. So their comments are quite often not worth the electronic page they are written on.

    Often criticism isn't based on fact or an informed opinion but on hatred for an individual, programme or TV channel.

    I don't quite understand the point you are making. We are just consumers, the programmes are a product. We don't need to know what goes into the making of a product to express an opinion about it.
    In fact, it's often the supposedly "well informed" professional critics that irritate me most, they just follow each other like sheep.
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    anotherlongersanotherlongers Posts: 1,792
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    Scencia wrote: »
    Unless you are under the age of 10 or still living in 1996 then its just plain embarrassing signing off a post with 'Doh'

    You just did.
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    Doghouse RileyDoghouse Riley Posts: 32,491
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    Scencia wrote: »
    Unless you are under the age of 10 or still living in 1996 then its just plain embarrassing signing off a post with 'Doh'

    I think it was an appropriate comment, (amused exasperation) given that particular "back story."

    If such a thing bothers you on here, you're going to be making a lot of work for yourself.

    If it didn't involve me, I'd had just scrolled down in that situation. But it takes all sorts, so I don't really mind.
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    ChrissieAOChrissieAO Posts: 5,143
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    Scencia wrote: »
    Unless you are under the age of 10 or still living in 1996 then its just plain embarrassing signing off a post with 'Doh'

    My goodness, I had no idea 'doh' was such an outdated expression. I have to admit to using it myself sometimes....will have to remember to be more up to date...:):):)
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    AlrightmateAlrightmate Posts: 73,120
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    i4u wrote: »
    Having read many 'points of view' on social media, it would seem there are many who have no idea what goes into making a programme. So their comments are quite often not worth the electronic page they are written on.

    Often criticism isn't based on fact or an informed opinion but on hatred for an individual, programme or TV channel.

    So what's the problem?
    Subjective opinion is based on what someone likes or dislikes, not facts.
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    Doghouse RileyDoghouse Riley Posts: 32,491
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    ChrissieAO wrote: »
    My goodness, I had no idea 'doh' was such an outdated expression. I have to admit to using it myself sometimes....will have to remember to be more up to date...:):):)

    Ah!

    You have to be careful on here Chrissy. The threads are patrolled by some who examine every post and "throw away" comment, for grammar, spelling mistakes and once in my case "inappropriate use of speech marks."
    They often can't see how unintentionally amusing, is such attention to and comment upon, trivial detail.
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    Molly BloomMolly Bloom Posts: 2,318
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    dans_t16s wrote: »
    I don't see a problem.

    There isn't one. The OP just wants to look and feel superior, that's all.
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    carl.waringcarl.waring Posts: 35,705
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    You're killing me!
    You can say that after all your predictable nightly nit-picking that follows my every post on the Points of View thread?
    Yes. I believe I just did.
    I did say "forums aside" is that not a form of social media?
    Which was not relevant to anything. You assumed he was talking about the BBC1 programme of that name when he clearly wasn't. That was quite a Pavlovian response from you ;)
    You missed the point over the tattoo.
    No, I really didn't.
    So what's the problem?
    Subjective opinion is based on what someone likes or dislikes, not facts.
    If I based my opinion on incorrect facts, I think I might just re-evaluate my opinion. Also, I don't usually form an opinion on something without knowing the facts first, if at all possible.
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    Doghouse RileyDoghouse Riley Posts: 32,491
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    Yes. I believe I just did.


    Which was not relevant to anything. You assumed he was talking about the BBC1 programme of that name when he clearly wasn't. That was quite a Pavlovian response from you ;)


    No, I really didn't.

    Is this thread now your "other hobby?"
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    carl.waringcarl.waring Posts: 35,705
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    Wow! Yes. I post in threads on a forum. Not sure what the problem with that is, really, seeing as many others are doing the same thing. :confused:
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    steveh31steveh31 Posts: 13,516
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    i4u wrote: »
    Having read many 'points of view' on social media, it would seem there are many who have no idea what goes into making a programme. So their comments are quite often not worth the electronic page they are written on.

    Often criticism isn't based on fact or an informed opinion but on hatred for an individual, programme or TV channel.

    I bet they would know not to start a thread about broadcasting in the TV Shows section ;)
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    Doghouse RileyDoghouse Riley Posts: 32,491
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    Wow! Yes. I post in threads on a forum. Not sure what the problem with that is, really, seeing as many others are doing the same thing. :confused:

    You're confused?

    Your persistence is certainly confusing.
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