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Jay's reaction seeing himself on the CCTV said it all he did it!!!!

Sweet_PrincessSweet_Princess Posts: 11,038
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Jay's reaction seeing himself on the CCTV said it all he did it!!!! his expression was gulity looking and then he went all quiet when Abi noticed outside the pub. Jay is the murderer but why kill Lucy? I dont think Jay and Lucy ever crossed paths much when she was alive so it doesnt make sense. Im 50/50 on this I hope he didnt kill her as he seems a sweet guy who wouldnt hurt anyone but then on the other hand this could be a good storyline for his character by going to the darkside and showing a new side to him and I think Jamie the actor could act out this part so well he did amazing in the Heather/Ben storyline
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    TellMeMoreTellMeMore Posts: 1,067
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    Is it February 2015 already?
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    Sick BulletSick Bullet Posts: 20,770
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    He is involved heavily but not sure if he did it yet, he saw something for sure.
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    lou_123lou_123 Posts: 12,706
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    Sweet_Princess wrote: »
    Jay's reaction seeing himself on the CCTV said it all he did it!!!! his expression was gulity looking and then he went all quiet when Abi noticed outside the pub. Jay is the murderer but why kill Lucy? I dont think Jay and Lucy ever crossed paths much when she was alive so it doesnt make sense. Im 50/50 on this I hope he didnt kill her as he seems a sweet guy who wouldnt hurt anyone but then on the other hand this could be a good storyline for his character by going to the darkside and showing a new side to him and I think Jamie the actor could act out this part so well he did amazing in the Heather/Ben storyline

    Dtc would never make a low profile character like jay the killer, if he is the killer, he's ****ed up big time
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    lea27lea27 Posts: 11,426
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    He was going to meet Ben, nothing to do with Lucy's murder. If people recognise him in the cctv then they will think he did it which was why he was sheepish.
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    bumpandgrindbumpandgrind Posts: 12,581
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    lea27 wrote: »
    He was going to meet Ben, nothing to do with Lucy's murder. If people recognise him in the cctv then they will think he did it which was why he was sheepish.

    This is my take on it too!
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    olivejolivej Posts: 14,696
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    lea27 wrote: »
    He was going to meet Ben, nothing to do with Lucy's murder. If people recognise him in the cctv then they will think he did it which was why he was sheepish.

    exactly this
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    walford-e20walford-e20 Posts: 6,554
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    No. I don't think he even realised Lucy was on his bus until he saw the appeal. He just doesn't want people to know he was seeing Ben.
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    summer_stesummer_ste Posts: 5,524
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    Sweet_Princess wrote: »
    Jay's reaction seeing himself on the CCTV said it all he did it!!!!

    Either that or he has something else to hide!!!!! Like everyone else who has been a suspect so far!!!!!! Or everybody who will be a suspect between now and next year!!!!!!! That is the point of this storyline!!!!! Everyone has secrets!!!!!! Doesn't mean he did it at all!!!!

    ;-)
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    dantay24ukdantay24uk Posts: 2,558
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    I still think it was Ben on the bus. And knowing that was his hat, Jay's reaction is because he realised Ben was on the same bus as Lucy so potentially could be involved in her death. Not that I think Ben was involved, he probably chased after Lucy to ask her not to say anything about his release to Phil - and that was that.
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    walford-e20walford-e20 Posts: 6,554
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    dantay24uk wrote: »
    I still think it was Ben on the bus. And knowing that was his hat, Jay's reaction is because he realised Ben was on the same bus as Lucy so potentially could be involved in her death. Not that I think Ben was involved, he probably chased after Lucy to ask her not to say anything about his release to Phil - and that was that.

    Only if Ben owns EXACTLY the same hat and hoodie that Jay was wearing on Good Friday. There's really no disputing this.
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    MoJo-GirlMoJo-Girl Posts: 979
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    walford-e20 wrote: »
    No. I don't think he even realised Lucy was on his bus until he saw the appeal. He just doesn't want people to know he was seeing Ben.

    This. I think he will now be panicking that the police will come knocking on his door - and then he'd have to tell Phil he knows where Ben is.

    I think this is one massive red herring.
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    dantay24ukdantay24uk Posts: 2,558
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    walford-e20 wrote: »
    Only if Ben owns EXACTLY the same hat and hoodie that Jay was wearing on Good Friday. There's really no disputing this.

    It was only the same hat as far as I've seen. And that was West Ham hat, plenty of those around. Jay could even have given Ben his hat for whatever reason.
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    olivejolivej Posts: 14,696
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    walford-e20 wrote: »
    Only if Ben owns EXACTLY the same hat and hoodie that Jay was wearing on Good Friday. There's really no disputing this.

    Im sure many people own the same colour hoodie and a West Ham hat,

    Billy has a West Ham hat ;-)
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    walford-e20walford-e20 Posts: 6,554
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    dantay24uk wrote: »
    It was only the same hat as far as I've seen. And that was West Ham hat, plenty of those around. Jay could even have given Ben his hat for whatever reason.

    Why would Ben get on a bus in Walford? And it's definitely the same hoodie:
    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/news/a590056/eastenders-is-jay-brown-connected-to-lucy-beales-murder.html
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    Sick BulletSick Bullet Posts: 20,770
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    Same body build hoody and hat, plus his reaction at seeing the footage it really is 100% Jay.

    http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Superstar_DJ/media/yup.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
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    olivejolivej Posts: 14,696
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    walford-e20 wrote: »
    Why would Ben get on a bus in Walford? And it's definitely the same hoodie:
    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/news/a590056/eastenders-is-jay-brown-connected-to-lucy-beales-murder.html

    why wouldnt he? he is from Walford, his family is in Walford - maybe he was coming to see Phil, thought better of it and got on a bus to take him back to wherever he was living
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    KieranDSKieranDS Posts: 16,545
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    We have our very own Jessica Fletcher on the board.
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    lotty27lotty27 Posts: 17,858
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    Sweet_Princess wrote: »
    Jay's reaction seeing himself on the CCTV said it all he did it!!!! his expression was gulity looking and then he went all quiet when Abi noticed outside the pub. Jay is the murderer but why kill Lucy? I dont think Jay and Lucy ever crossed paths much when she was alive so it doesnt make sense. Im 50/50 on this I hope he didnt kill her as he seems a sweet guy who wouldnt hurt anyone but then on the other hand this could be a good storyline for his character by going to the darkside and showing a new side to him and I think Jamie the actor could act out this part so well he did amazing in the Heather/Ben storyline

    For the life of me I can't see why you jumped to that conclusion :confused:
    All I saw was someone shocked to see that they'd been on the same bus as Lucy!

    IMO lea27's post below sums it up perfectly.
    lea27 wrote: »
    He was going to meet Ben, nothing to do with Lucy's murder. If people recognise him in the cctv then they will think he did it which was why he was sheepish.

    Exactly.
    walford-e20 wrote: »
    No. I don't think he even realised Lucy was on his bus until he saw the appeal. He just doesn't want people to know he was seeing Ben.

    Again, I agree.


    His mind was on other things so he probably didn't even notice Lucy on the bus, now he's panicking because he thinks that if he's recognised people will think he had something to do with the murder. To prove his innocence he has to give an alibi - which most likely was meeting Ben. But then he'd have to admit that and risk the wrath of Phil so he's in a bit of a predicament.
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    walford-e20walford-e20 Posts: 6,554
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    Sick Bullet wrote: »
    Same body build hoody and hat, plus his reaction at seeing the footage it really is 100% Jay.

    http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Superstar_DJ/media/yup.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0

    Thank you. I don't understand how people can still doubt this after irrefutable evidence.
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    Sweet_PrincessSweet_Princess Posts: 11,038
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    Jay is the killer same hat, same body type. DTC shouldnt bother making us wait til February
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    HarloweHarlowe Posts: 20,021
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    I don't think his the killer, I think as already said he went to meet Ben and maybe she saw them or his didn't even know she was on the bus, he just doesn't want people to know about Ben as he knows how much hassle it will cause, Phil would be down on him like a ton of bricks for knowing where Ben's been and not saying anything, his not fickle in disowning him.
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    lotty27lotty27 Posts: 17,858
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    I'd bet my house it's a red herring. It won't be Jay, he just happened to be on the same bus but it will get mighty awkward for him if someone recognises him and tells the police because then he'll have to tell them where he was and who he was with and risk the wrath of -> >:( (old tomato face!)
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    Sweet_PrincessSweet_Princess Posts: 11,038
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    Tonights episode proved Jay is the killer
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    pegasus2pegasus2 Posts: 5,293
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    Massive red herring, his being on the bus can be easily explained away. Far too early to know whodunit.
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    olivejolivej Posts: 14,696
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    after that episode I am even more convinced Jay and Abi had NOTHING to do with Lucy's murder

    Abi WOULD NOT be able to keep it a secret, she freaks out over everything, her reaction to not getting into Liverpool was enough proof for me ~ she didn't kill Lucy

    Jay didn't either, yes, it was him on the bus but I'm convinced he was off to meet Ben, if he wasn't off to meet Ben then the perfect opportunity to ask Phil for his help and advice presented itself early in tonight's episode in the garage, he didn't ask Phil for help because he didn't want Phil to know he was on that bus going to meet Ben
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