I so badly want to ask you if its based on the skin pigment, but I am not sure if it will be taken the wrong way...
but then again, they are hardly going to walk off the boat like it was a party cruise, I suspect most times people arrive on a boat like that, they look rather grim.
No, When I see someone, I can see who they are, I look at their eyes, I know what they are, and for many of the men on that boat, they have deceptive eyes.
And the obvious fact that if this hasn't happened and those Christians reached Europe and tried to claim asylum as a persecuted minority whose lives were in danger for their religion or race that we would probably have deported them....
My daughter is a specialist barrister representing asylum seekers, and some of the refusals defy belief. If someone has scars from extreme torture all over their body, the home office will argue that they did them themselves; if it is pointed out that that would be physically impossible, they will argue that they must have paid a friend to tear out their fingernails and castrate them. Yesterday a Kenyan asylum seeker - who has been here since he was 9, and who has no known contacts in Kenya - was refused asylum, on the grounds that he had been offered a safe university place in Kenya. That place was at Garissa University, clearly as safe as houses for a young Christian student.
they are mostly economic migrants who should remain in italy seeing as italy is encouraging this people smuggling operation. why cant france and the other countries stop them entering the schengen zone so italy has to care for whoever it allows to enter its territory. the australian government showed how it can be stopped. imo the italian government is creating a big problem
Italy has caused the problem by being a pointy shape with several islands, you mean?
No, When I see someone, I can see who they are, I look at their eyes, I know what they are, and for many of the men on that boat, they have deceptive eyes.
Im sure many people get a feel of a person.
For heavens sake. Please link to the photograph where you can get a really good look at the accused men's eyes?
My daughter is a specialist barrister representing asylum seekers, and some of the refusals defy belief. If someone has scars from extreme torture all over their body, the home office will argue that they did them themselves; if it is pointed out that that would be physically impossible, they will argue that they must have paid a friend to tear out their fingernails and castrate them. Yesterday a Kenyan asylum seeker - who has been here since he was 9, and who has no known contacts in Kenya - was refused asylum, on the grounds that he had been offered a safe university place in Kenya. That place was at Garissa University, clearly as safe as houses for a young Christian student.
Italy has caused the problem by being a pointy shape with several islands, you mean?
For heavens sake. Please link to the photograph where you can get a really good look at the accused men's eyes?
And i wonder where the final destination is for these lovely people...?
I fear that 12 of them have already reached their final destination. Were they lovely people? At the moment - and this is rather upsetting imo - they are not even names to us, just a number. Presumably somewhere there are 12 families who have got together to raise money for the crossing, hoping that at least one person in their family will have a future. They may never know what has happened to their brother or son.
I challenge anyone to argue this isn't racist. Its not even subtle. The people in the picture are some random people, not even joking.
Depressing, isn't it?
The first picture appears to be a bought in stock photograph of some solemn looking black people, that was used, as I linked earlier, to illustrate an article in The Economist. Edit: it won't let me link it. But if you do a reverse google images search, it comes up ok. It was used by The Economist to illustrate a book review on a book called 'Exceptional People', which is a history of immigration.
But Sky Guy can tell from these photographs that a completely different group of people, similar only in skin colour, are not good people, and that this completely different group of people 'have deceptive eyes'. Just beneath contempt.
I gather from a lot of the news items about the Africans sailing to Europe over the past 10 years that the stronger ones usually set fire to the boat in order to be rescued and get the sympathy vote, leaving the elderly, women, and children to drown.
I fear that 12 of them have already reached their final destination. Were they lovely people? At the moment - and this is rather upsetting imo - they are not even names to us, just a number. Presumably somewhere there are 12 families who have got together to raise money for the crossing, hoping that at least one person in their family will have a future. They may never know what has happened to their brother or son.
I challenge anyone to argue this isn't racist. Its not even subtle. The people in the picture are some random people, not even joking.
It is you who is seeing the colour of the people.
These photos are not random, look at news articles about the events today, the photos are similar. The photos I linked to were from articles about recent events.
I gather from a lot of the news items about the Africans sailing to Europe over the past 10 years that the stronger ones usually set fire to the boat in order to be rescued and get the sympathy vote, leaving the elderly, women, and children to drown.
Sick sick world.
I have never seen such a news item. Why would the strong men suppose that they would be rescued, and not the elderly, women and children? Who sets fire to a boat they are travelling in? You really will have to link a few of these news items so we can see for ourselves.
I have never seen such a news item. Why would the strong men suppose that they would be rescued, and not the elderly, women and children? Who sets fire to a boat they are travelling in? You really will have to link a few of these news items so we can see for ourselves.
Since you ask...
It is thought that some of those on board set fire to a piece of material to try to attract the attention of passing ships, only to have the fire spread to the rest of the boat.
This week has witnessed two crews threatening to set fire to the boat, occupied by women and children, as seen in this video made available by the regional government. In it can be seen a man showing a bottle full of gasoline and a lighter in his other hand, while trying to get the patrol to let him pass.
That's a bit Titanic 1912 old fashioned principle isn't it?
I don't think any should stop. Where the hell does it end? Who is going to support them?
It's not fair to expect the taxpayers in whatever country to constantly have to foot the bill for these people.
It's astounding, normally they are so kind, tolerant and understanding.
The kind of folk you'd never need to send on a diversity awareness course ^_^
I don't think any should be allowed to stay either whatever harrowing stories they have about the journey as they decided to travel. also Europe and the UK is full up now so anyone seeking asylum or sanctuary should go to somewhere underpopulated like Argentina or Mongolia. The Italians really need to tow the boats back like the Aussies did.
I don't think any should be allowed to stay either whatever harrowing stories they have about the journey as they decided to travel. also Europe and the UK is full up now so anyone seeking asylum or sanctuary should go to somewhere underpopulated like Argentina or Mongolia. The Italians really need to tow the boats back like the Aussies did.
I also think that Muslims especially have shot themselves in the foot by (many) abusing the people, principles and customs of the countries they have settled in.
So I agree with you. Let them seek refuge outside of Europe. They could try South America as you say. It's a vast continent with plenty of space. I'm sure the various South American governments would be only too happy to do their fair share for world refugees and allow assisted passage from the various African ports.
No, When I see someone, I can see who they are, I look at their eyes, I know what they are, and for many of the men on that boat, they have deceptive eyes.
I also think that Muslims especially have shot themselves in the foot by (many) abusing the people, principles and customs of the countries they have settled in.
So I agree with you. Let them seek refuge outside of Europe. They could try South America as you say. It's a vast continent with plenty of space. I'm sure the various South American governments would be only too happy to do their fair share for world refugees and allow assisted passge from the various African ports.
Especially as many Latin American governments are left wing so why aren't they doing much more. Argentina could take them then they won't be fretting about the Falklands so much. Plus the illegal immigration is costing Europe billions..the Italians really should be told they are on their own if they want to continue a crazy policy encouraging this people smuggling
Africa is a vast continent with plenty of natural resources. If Africans weren't constantly trying to kill each other in the name of religion or to settle old tribal scores, then there wouldn't be this need for these mass crossings to Europe.
I saw the BBC story of course, which was nothing even remotely the same thing, as it concerned someone accidentally starting a fire in the boat. I did not see the article in Spanish, but still think Big Andy's suggestion that "I gather from a lot of the news items about the Africans sailing to Europe over the past 10 years that the stronger ones usually set fire to the boat in order to be rescued and get the sympathy vote, leaving the elderly, women, and children to drown." is absolutely fatuous.
Always a splendid idea to post an unattributed photograph from an overtly racist site that calls black people 'third world negro savages' and has a photograph of an unnamed and unidentified black man superimposed with the text 'you're gonna get raped'. Does any other forum member have any random photographs of black people looking bad that they would like to share? It certainly is enriching the forum.
Africa is a vast continent with plenty of natural resources. If Africans weren't constantly trying to kill each other in the name of religion or to settle old tribal scores, then there wouldn't be this need for these mass crossings to Europe.
They manifestly can't live in peace with each other, so why should we expect anything but trouble from them anywhere else?
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No, When I see someone, I can see who they are, I look at their eyes, I know what they are, and for many of the men on that boat, they have deceptive eyes.
Im sure many people get a feel of a person.
For heavens sake. Please link to the photograph where you can get a really good look at the accused men's eyes?
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01556/immigrants_1556080c.jpg
http://www.dw.de/image/0,,15840767_401,00.jpg
The feel off these people is not good.
I fear that 12 of them have already reached their final destination. Were they lovely people? At the moment - and this is rather upsetting imo - they are not even names to us, just a number. Presumably somewhere there are 12 families who have got together to raise money for the crossing, hoping that at least one person in their family will have a future. They may never know what has happened to their brother or son.
Here comes the diversity!
I challenge anyone to argue this isn't racist. Its not even subtle. The people in the picture are some random people, not even joking.
Depressing, isn't it?
The first picture appears to be a bought in stock photograph of some solemn looking black people, that was used, as I linked earlier, to illustrate an article in The Economist. Edit: it won't let me link it. But if you do a reverse google images search, it comes up ok. It was used by The Economist to illustrate a book review on a book called 'Exceptional People', which is a history of immigration.
The second is a press photograph of a protest against serious racist violence, in which black people had been attacked with weapons. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/6954246/Italian-riots-migrants-and-residents-clash-in-southern-town.html
But Sky Guy can tell from these photographs that a completely different group of people, similar only in skin colour, are not good people, and that this completely different group of people 'have deceptive eyes'. Just beneath contempt.
Sick sick world.
It is you who is seeing the colour of the people.
These photos are not random, look at news articles about the events today, the photos are similar. The photos I linked to were from articles about recent events.
This is from today.
https://s1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/_f1vnRAXXpmnG21HuKng6A--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD01MTI7aWw9cGxhbmU7cT03OTt3PTc2OA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_GB/News/AFP/6b0367f8240b8b7a964c7e91a2a828f9712f7e70.jpg
Now some of these men look sinister to me. nothing to do with colour. (chap with the pink think under him and the guy to his left with the blue hat)
I don't see how its racist at all, really.
I have never seen such a news item. Why would the strong men suppose that they would be rescued, and not the elderly, women and children? Who sets fire to a boat they are travelling in? You really will have to link a few of these news items so we can see for ourselves.
Since you ask...
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-24380247
and
http://www.teinteresa.es/espana/inmigrantes-amenazan-danar-llegar-Melilla_0_962305974.html
..prepare to be culturally enriched.
That's a bit Titanic 1912 old fashioned principle isn't it?
I don't think any should stop. Where the hell does it end? Who is going to support them?
It's not fair to expect the taxpayers in whatever country to constantly have to foot the bill for these people.
It's astounding, normally they are so kind, tolerant and understanding.
The kind of folk you'd never need to send on a diversity awareness course ^_^
I also think that Muslims especially have shot themselves in the foot by (many) abusing the people, principles and customs of the countries they have settled in.
So I agree with you. Let them seek refuge outside of Europe. They could try South America as you say. It's a vast continent with plenty of space. I'm sure the various South American governments would be only too happy to do their fair share for world refugees and allow assisted passage from the various African ports.
What a load of utter horse s**t!
Especially as many Latin American governments are left wing so why aren't they doing much more. Argentina could take them then they won't be fretting about the Falklands so much. Plus the illegal immigration is costing Europe billions..the Italians really should be told they are on their own if they want to continue a crazy policy encouraging this people smuggling
They should be towed back to Africa.
They manifestly can't live in peace with each other, so why should we expect anything but trouble from them anywhere else?