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Flamethrower100
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simple example
would you subconsciously give a blue juice cup to male child, and a pink one to a girl child.
I keep finding myself doing that. And thinking why? afterwards.
would you subconsciously give a blue juice cup to male child, and a pink one to a girl child.
I keep finding myself doing that. And thinking why? afterwards.
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Two words: Social Conditioning
Trouble is - my kids didn't.
They wanted Action Man, not Barbie for xmas (boys). My youngest child (8) is virulently sexist - but the older ones are very PC and feminist themselves. Nature not nurture, I guess.
Pink and red are blood colours, indicating a warrior. Blue is softer and gentler.
No idea when or why it swapped.
So, would you feel comfortable dressing your baby boy (if you had one) in a pink babygro then?
I know. someone once said to me, "geuss who so and so's got their little boy for christmas. it's only a doll. I think he is going to be a little poof when he's older.. and he pretends to breast feed it and all.."
I was a bit shocked by that although all I said was, maybe it's because he is brought up without a dad. I didn't really think that, but I just really didn't want to say that I thought she was being really judgemental on a little kid.
I think it's just that they want to protect their boys from being mocked.
little boys are called gay if they are interested in dolls or anything even remotely concidered female, even by adults.
Two more words: biological programming
It's a scientific fact that more women choose reddish colours and boys choose greenish colours.
They tested it on rats and chinese people.
it is. but I found myself doing it. And lately I have been making an effort to just hand a pink cup to the boys. as why should they care? most of them are only 2 years old.
And then the other day. A four year old girl laughed at a boy for wearing tights in the cold weather. :eek:
she's already got her gender stereotypes going on.
it doesn't sound very scientificaly sound to me.
I am really not a girly girl. I have never encouraged my daughter to like pink, sparkly, princesses, lilac, silver, glitter,tutu's, frothy nonsense or any similar item
Yet she does.
It's more than social conditioning, it appears almost inherent.
you are not the only influence in your daughter's life.
That sounded a bit creepy
why?
I think its natural to want to give blue for a boy and pink for a girl, but as they get older just give them what they want
Indeed
I am however the major influence and the girly stuff started at about 2. So I'd say it's inherent as a 2 year old is still all about the id.
Dunno It just did, like something out of a horror film.
you're going to regret the day you ever came to dragonwick.
He is 16 now and a complete matcho boy so his love for glittery shoes has never affected him!.....:D
No social conditioning required, he has been all boy since minute one.
It's quite a thing to behold, if you haven't got kids. It's amazing how a few chemicals one way or another can give a young child a penchant for smashing things and shouting.
I suspect toy companies, etc, have realised that they can sell more stuff by trying to get girls more obsessed with pink. There are quite a lot of unisex toys (yes, in theory pretty much everything should be unisex, but still) - things like playhouses, etc. Previously, a family might buy a mini house thing for their son in bright red, blue and yellow plastic, then 2 years later when the son was too old the younger sister would play with it. But now the younger sis can't possibly play with it, because spoilt little kids need a bright pink mini house thing if they are a girl. So the toy companies sell double the plastic tat to families with opposite sex kids.
I had guessed.
I was interested in all things as a kid. liked lego, dolls houses, barbies. cars. climbing trees. I liked dresses and make up too. but I was more interested in just having fun. war games. and man hunt. and bellfast, aka knock door run.
growing up... girls, were encouraged to join in with games that would be concidered boy's games. we all went rollerblading together, and had bases.
but us girls would pretend to be members of the spice girls and such. we had a different world going as well. when we were not with the boys. I was able to fit in with both.
boys seem to have a lot more pressure on them to be a certain way as chlildren.
from what I have seen in children that I look after. and this is almost everyday. mostly 2 year olds
I don't see much difference between very young girls and boys in the way they act. the girls are a bit more interested in what you might call mother hen type things, like helping to clean, and playing with dolls as if they were babies. but boys are too. just not so much. I wonder, perhaps becuase they are not encouraged in that activity as much as girls.
there are a few girls who are more agressive than the boys. to be honest in their conduct.