TV is still rubbish

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  • AdamskAdamsk Posts: 1,384
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    I Agree and disagree at the same time.

    UK has some good ducumentyrys.

    But is very bland and dumb down on it's Drama right now.Due too funding and finding very few talented writers.And most of it's wasted on soaps.Or it always looks to the past 1901 and downward.And that's why it all becomes to cosmopolitan with the reality rubbish and ITV 2 Ladies and Gentleman.As the American look to the future when it come's to storytelling and get all the time they need to build characters,and getting a viewing audience.But not all of it is great Becuase State side has rubbish too.
  • ampexampex Posts: 12
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    Most, if not all, of UK channels are deplorable now - either showing repeat after repeat (films & tv programmes), auctions, house purchasing and house restoration etc. etc. with the occasional soap thrown in - and they're even repeating the repeats of those!! Some years ago both the BBC and Independent channels produced good drama and entertainment. You've only got to look at some of the material that has ultimately found its way onto DVD. But all the big bucks - or most of what's available nowadays - is spent on football and the likes; so woebetide if you don't like it! Shows like the Palladium Show, International Cabaret, Armchair Theatre, The Avengers and good comedy are just a distant memory: - the latter largely due to the daft 'political correctness' we have to put up with. Have you noticed that the licence fee seems to be inversely-proportional to the quality of programme content! :(

    Pete
  • Fish_and_ChipsFish_and_Chips Posts: 1,333
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    Isn't TV more expensive to make these days? That's probably why so many shows look so cheap. Plus I suppose it gets harder every year to make original stuff, yet people still watch any old crap, so I suppose the tv companies keep churning it out.
  • Glenn AGlenn A Posts: 23,797
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    The soaps are shown to death now( 6 episodes a week of Emmerdale, no thanks), mediocre game shows like Eggheads and The Chase seem to be on non stop, ITV daytime is an insult to your intelligence and BBC One overdoses with antiques and property shows. Also would mindrot like Deal or no Deal, people opening boxes for an hour, be tolerated in the eighties, and as for reality shows, no thanks.
    However, the upside nowadays is we have ITV 3 to remind us how good things were in the past and BBC Four often has some good documentaries.
  • Fish_and_ChipsFish_and_Chips Posts: 1,333
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    ..... yet people still watch any old crap, so I suppose the tv companies keep churning it out.

    http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1941876&goto=newpost
  • Glenn AGlenn A Posts: 23,797
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    As has been mentioned earlier, the problem with reality shows, which are prevalent now, is they can't be repeated as everyone knows the winner and rarely get made into DVDs. This means a treadmill of cheap, disposable shows that few people remember when they're finished and will never be seen again. Drama, comedy and documentaries OTOH can often make millions in DVD sales, exports and from advertising when repeated and something like the final episode of something like Luther will always be far more memorable than all the days in the Big Brother house put together.
  • Bill ClintonBill Clinton Posts: 9,389
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    ftv wrote: »
    I wish I could find who it is who forces people to sit in front of their TV sets watching programmes they don't like, it's a complete mystery.

    There's always the insidious nature of these programmes too, you can very well say "oh don't watch them if you don't like them", if you socialise, have friends, you will be subject to them one way or another, they may watch them when you are there, it may be talked about, it's insidious into the culture. Eg I hate X Factor but I couldn't avoid hearing it and seeing SOME footage, same goes for football culture which is also all pervasive but deadly boring. Try watching news, sport will be included, friends house, Sky Sports News will be on see what I mean. Luckily I stopped being friends with someone who liked to watch Big Brother, so relief there.

    Mainstream culture has always been a bit stale, but it's been better than it is currently. I preferred top programmes like Millionaire, Deal Or No Deal in its heyday and Coronation Street before it went too simplistic, there's not much mainstream stuff on for me anymore, there's hardly any top sitcoms anymore such as Keeping Up Appearances & The Brittas Empire. I prefer the rarer things I find.
  • grauniadgrauniad Posts: 7,947
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    Tassium wrote: »
    It's a race to the bottom.

    No broadcaster is aiming high when it comes to the general public.

    The BBC make an effort, but not for their mainstream programming which is slightly poshed-up ITV fare.



    Why this is is hard to say, but if the BBC aimed high then so would the commercial channels just to compete.

    For example instead of "pick a singer" competition and dancin' celebs why not an actual musical drama with a story?

    I'm sure the BBC of decades gone by would have gone that route rather than copy ITVs idea of mainstream entertainment.

    Instead of antique-based valuing shows why not a Time-Team style archaeology programme that is accessible?


    It's just a that'll do approach at the moment.

    I think that's about right. It is not so much a problem now, with a vast choice of channels, and if you have Sky, always something to watch. But Sat/Sun on the main channels is now a no-go area for me.
  • Doghouse RileyDoghouse Riley Posts: 32,491
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    grauniad wrote: »
    I think that's about right. It is not so much a problem now, with a vast choice of channels, and if you have Sky, always something to watch. But Sat/Sun on the main channels is now a no-go area for me.

    The point to remember, is that we pay a licence to operate a TV set, but of course from that the BBC get the best part of four billion quid each year.

    There's a multitude of pies in which the BBC have their fingers and in my opinion with the number of the people on "big money" they pay, there's bound to be a, "proliferation of pies."
    For most viewers, what they want most, is some decent peak time programmes and we do get some, but some nights there aren't any. I'd flag up Fridays and Saturdays as the worst.

    Yes there's other channels, but that's besides the point.
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