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Bloody Begging adverts

ukbadgeukbadge Posts: 363
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Anyone else sick and tired of those bloody begging adverts to help 'john', or the donkeys, or the syrians, or those who have to walk to get drinking water, or the animal charities, or puma's, or elephants.

And the music being played, or the voice-over.....jeeeeez

There, I feel better already.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 12,075
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    I must admit there are a lot of them on.... and so often.
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    yosemitesamyosemitesam Posts: 869
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    I always wonder whether the ads generate enough donations to pay for the cost of the tv advert, not just the initial layout but especially the cost of having them shown so often.
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    OldnjadedOldnjaded Posts: 89,126
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    As long as we have to suffer adverts at all, I would much rather they were ones trying to raise money for worthy causes than the far more frequently shown payday loan swines trying to fleece people.
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    molliepopsmolliepops Posts: 26,828
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    Sadly I don't seem to notice them these days,I am not sure that is what they want to achieve,
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    Doghouse RileyDoghouse Riley Posts: 32,491
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    One of the best paid jobs these days is to be a director of a charity. These companies rely on volunteers to work for nothing and expect viewers to sign up to a direct debit.

    If you do, expect a call asking you to increase it within a very short space of time.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 12,075
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    One of the best paid jobs these days is to be a director of a charity. These companies rely on volunteers to work for nothing and expect viewers to sign up to a direct debit.

    If you do, expect a call asking you to increase it within a very short space of time.

    Can I just say Doghouse, that your comments appear to be right about national charities but not the small local ones.
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    Glenn AGlenn A Posts: 23,877
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    Does Vintage TV still run the one about the snow leopard?
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    postitpostit Posts: 23,839
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    I always wonder whether the ads generate enough donations to pay for the cost of the tv advert, not just the initial layout but especially the cost of having them shown so often.

    I've wondered about that too. I read somewhere that each 30 second spot can cost anywhere up to £30,000, depending on the channel, so I imagine the rewards (in the form of donations) must be worth it.

    Personally, I will never donate to a charity that has enough money to advertise ad nauseum, just as I won't donate or buy from overpriced charity shops.
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    Doghouse RileyDoghouse Riley Posts: 32,491
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    Can I just say Doghouse, that your comments appear to be right about national charities but not the small local ones.

    Sure you can, because you're correct.
    But small charities can rarely afford to advertise on TV.
    I think the OP started the thread as there's been numerous adverts from one of the major charities, shown on TV all afternoon.
    They try to "guilt" viewers into contributing. I get irritated a bit because in many countries to where the aid goes, many millions of our cash donated by our daft government, is already being ripped of by those running these countries.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 12,075
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    Sure you can, because you're correct.
    But small charities can rarely afford to advertise on TV.
    I think the OP started the thread as there's been numerous adverts from one of the major charities, shown on TV all afternoon.
    They try to "guilt" viewers into contributing. I get irritated a bit because in many countries to where the aid goes, many millions of our cash donated by our daft government, is already being ripped of by those running these countries.

    I agree with you..... I do a bit of work for a local charity. (Unpaid) Shop managers are on little more than minimum wage..

    I support a couple of national charities but get so fed up with being rung up to increase my monthly amount every few weeks. The companies that employ the phone callers who ring you up get paid too.
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    TassiumTassium Posts: 31,639
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    They try and get people on a small monthly direct debit, then badger people with emotional blackmail to increase it.

    It's pretty sickening really.

    So these charities are thinking over the long term, maybe it takes 5 years of ever increasing direct debits to even begin to pay off the costs of the adverts.

    At some point there will be a moral reaction to the fund raising antics of these professional charities.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 12,075
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    Tassium wrote: »
    They try and get people on a small monthly direct debit, then badger people with emotional blackmail to increase it.

    It's pretty sickening really.

    So these charities are thinking over the long term, maybe it takes 5 years of ever increasing direct debits to even begin to pay off the costs of the adverts.

    At some point there will be a moral reaction to the fund raising antics of these professional charities.

    I signed up to one where the bloke told me the minimum monthly was £6. When I confirmed the direct debit, I did tell the woman who rang me that I had actually wanted to pay a bit less... she said that the minimum was actually £3 so I dropped my donation a little bit.
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    roger_50roger_50 Posts: 6,928
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    Yep, I've now become totally immune to whatever message they may have once had in the past. The sheer volume of them has reduced them to nothing but nuisance factor.

    I view them no differently to McDonalds or Asda adverts tbh. Just stuff to ignore.
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    TheGrumpWizardTheGrumpWizard Posts: 1,547
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    Oldnjaded wrote: »
    As long as we have to suffer adverts at all, I would much rather they were ones trying to raise money for worthy causes than the far more frequently shown payday loan swines trying to fleece people.
    Even if these 'worthy causes' are fleecing you just the same?
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    FlukieFlukie Posts: 40,578
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    ukbadge wrote: »
    Anyone else sick and tired of those bloody begging adverts to help 'john', or the donkeys, or the syrians, or those who have to walk to get drinking water, or the animal charities, or puma's, or elephants.

    And the music being played, or the voice-over.....jeeeeez

    There, I feel better already.

    since I got V+ 3 years ago, I never watch any programme that's on a channel with ad breaks 'live'. I always watch it after it's finished, or starting just before it finishes, so I can fast forward through all the ads.
    It's bliss! I haven't watched an ad for 3 years!

    And as the ad breaks seem to be getting longer and longer, it's even more of a blessing!
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    jsmith99jsmith99 Posts: 20,382
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    I always wonder whether the ads generate enough donations to pay for the cost of the tv advert, not just the initial layout but especially the cost of having them shown so often.

    Usually the type of 'charities' which advertise on TV have millions of pounds in reserves. So it doesn't matter if they don't cover the costs - the directors will still be getting their huge salaries, pension contributions and expenses.
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    anyonefortennisanyonefortennis Posts: 111,858
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    I always wonder whether the ads generate enough donations to pay for the cost of the tv advert, not just the initial layout but especially the cost of having them shown so often.

    Charities don't pay the same TV fees as commercial companies. They are greatly reduced or free and the production companies/ actors etc work for free or a very small fee.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 25,310
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    Why would any organisation advertise, even at a reduced rate, if it didn't lead to increased donations? It doesn't make any sense.

    http://www.smallcharitydirectory.co.uk/what-percentage-of-donations-go-to-charity
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 961
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    Do people actually watch adverts in this day and age of smart recorders?

    Just record and start watching after 15 minutes and skip all the cack.

    I've not seen an advert for 5 years+

    Now the internet is a whole new depressing story.
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    coughthecatcoughthecat Posts: 6,876
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    I don't sign up to any regular payment schemes as I actually get a bit irritated by the "send us £10 a month" approach to donations. I can't help but think "Why? Are you not interested in £5 a month, or £8 a month? Doesn't every bit help?"

    As well as all the TV adverts asking for minimum regular donations, I've had all sorts of charity representatives knocking on the door, asking for the same. Every one of them goes for the "moral blackmail approach" with carefully worded scripts ... "Have you seen such-and-such an issue in the news?" ... which eventually leads to "Do you feel that these people/children need help?" ... and the only possible answer is "yes". They then hit you for a regular payment, and it's difficult to say no when you've been lead through a clever line of questioning. I even had one tell me that "all" of my neighbours had signed up, in a desperate bid to embarrass me! They seemed very annoyed when I pointed out that I knew for a fact that several of my neighbours flatly refuse to sign up to anything on the doorstep (ie. they were lying!) :mad:

    I also adopt the approach of refusing to sign my name to anything on the doorstep ... and I don't care who it is. They can give me a brochure, I'll check out what they do on-line, and if I feel I want to donate, I'll chose what I want to donate, and when.
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    Doghouse RileyDoghouse Riley Posts: 32,491
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    anielled wrote: »
    Do people actually watch adverts in this day and age of smart recorders?

    Just record and start watching after 15 minutes and skip all the cack.

    I've not seen an advert for 5 years+

    Now the internet is a whole new depressing story.

    Hmm..

    these days, you'll need more than fifteen minutes,
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    ukbadgeukbadge Posts: 363
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    I'm glad I am not the only one.
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    Susie_WilcoxSusie_Wilcox Posts: 1,014
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    ukbadge wrote: »
    Anyone else sick and tired of those bloody begging adverts to help 'john', or the donkeys, or the syrians, or those who have to walk to get drinking water, or the animal charities, or puma's, or elephants.

    And the music being played, or the voice-over.....jeeeeez

    There, I feel better already.

    Thankyou for saying it. There are too damn many on TV and they do not tug at my heartstrings...well, possibly the donkey one does...but I donate to a local dog rescue shelter. They are volunteers who rescue abused and injured dogs - on a daily basis I am sorry to say - and they often work from their own pockets. The money they do get donated goes to paying for food, vet care, vaccinations and spayings. Thank god for the vets who donate their time and work for free or at very reduced rates.

    I would not give a penny to the NSPCC because they have failed abysmally to save children who needed saved and thus do not justify my giving them a brass razoo. I dont donate to anything in Africa because world aid has taught Africans dependancy rather than self sufficiency, and the billions that has been given to African nations over the past several decades has done nothing other than provide the militias with nice shiny new guns. Saving famine victims simply helps to create another generation of famine victims who will need saving 20 years down the line. I will donate contraceptives if pushed....

    Lastly and most importantly, those who admin these charities drive flash cars, live in nice houses, do a lot of travelling and staying in nice hotels and have never gone without a meal in their lives because they draw huge salaries from PLAN, Save The Children, Aid for Africa et al. And don't get me started on anything connected to the United Nations.....
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 213
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    Charity is a tax status. I disapprove of how they waste the money they're given.
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    yeahbuddyyeahbuddy Posts: 703
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    I agree, I don't have a lot if money and if I did I would choose how much j wanted to donate and to who. I don't like that they are always on and try to get you to donate a certain price and at a given time (month/year).
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