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  • Sky_GuySky_Guy Posts: 6,859
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    I think it can be very "dangerous" to start watching it before the age of 14.

    All it is going to do is warp your mind.
  • MustabusterMustabuster Posts: 5,975
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    Is this the "grab a random news story and post a link in DS" thread? It's not even a DM link so I can be outraged.
  • MustabusterMustabuster Posts: 5,975
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    Porn rage. There's an interesting idea.
  • Keiō LineKeiō Line Posts: 12,979
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    Porn itself does not corrupt. Its the vast amount and nature of it that teenage children are being exposed to that is the problem. One only needs to read the comments on the videos to see how impressionable minds can have their world view skewed to hate women.

    I am in favour of strict government controls that make access to these sites considerably harder than just googling "Porn videos".
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    Porn sex can be misleading for young people because it does not show all the preparation needed before sex can be performed in a porn scene, and it is a performance, not normal sex. This is particularly the case with anal sex, where the orifice has to be specially prepared beforehand by stretching and cleaning, so that the organ can enter without causing significant damage. None of this is shown.
  • MesostimMesostim Posts: 52,864
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    If you self pleasure from Monday to Friday you get a weak end. Rrrrrump tish!!!

    Oh come on... that one was worthy of Cosmo himself.
  • Doctor_WibbleDoctor_Wibble Posts: 26,580
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    Porn rage. There's an interesting idea.
    I think that's what follows the poem that ends with "Quoth the server, 404"...?
  • zx50zx50 Posts: 91,270
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    The article is probably aimed towards backing Cameron's porn filter.
  • reglipreglip Posts: 5,268
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    yep, porns not for kids. Take their phones off them or get them a nokia or stop complaining that they are accessing adult material
  • Keiō LineKeiō Line Posts: 12,979
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    reglip wrote: »
    yep, porns not for kids. Take their phones off them or get them a nokia or stop complaining that they are accessing adult material

    If only that was workable. :(
  • Doctor_WibbleDoctor_Wibble Posts: 26,580
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    Keiō Line wrote: »
    Porn itself does not corrupt. Its the vast amount and nature of it that teenage children are being exposed to that is the problem. ...
    Certainly this, and I've not yet read the linked article, but I hope it makes some reference to this and how it needs to be mitigated with some kind of grown-up discussion or advice to make sure none of it is taken too literally as a 'how-to' guide...
    ... I am in favour of strict government controls that make access to these sites considerably harder than just googling "Porn videos".
    I'm not keen on everyone getting thumped with this particular one but some kind of parental requirement similar to an obligation to ensure schooling might have mileage - but either way, it's the trivial availability that is the issue.
    I still think a properly controlled kids-only ISP could work.
  • reglipreglip Posts: 5,268
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    Keiō Line wrote: »
    If only that was workable. :(

    It is workable Nokia phones are widely available. Some better leadership from schools maybe. Most schools phones are banned but maybe they need to be better at liasing with irresponsible parents to enforce the rules better. Schools could say that smart phones are banned but nokia style phones are not, encouraging parents to get their children non-smart phones
  • zx50zx50 Posts: 91,270
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    Certainly this, and I've not yet read the linked article, but I hope it makes some reference to this and how it needs to be mitigated with some kind of grown-up discussion or advice to make sure none of it is taken too literally as a 'how-to' guide...


    I'm not keen on everyone getting thumped with this particular one but some kind of parental requirement similar to an obligation to ensure schooling might have mileage - but either way, it's the trivial availability that is the issue.
    I still think a properly controlled kids-only ISP could work.

    I'm not sure a lot of parents would want to pay for internet twice if that's what you mean.
  • NamiraNamira Posts: 3,099
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    zx50 wrote: »
    The article is probably aimed towards backing Cameron's porn filter.

    Haha. I will enjoy seeing people rage when this inevitably raises it's ugly head in parliament again.

    I have nothing against people watching porn. I watch porn, and have done for quite a while. I watch more porn than my husband in fact, who isn't really that into it. I think some of the more violent stuff can potentially be dangerous and I certainly wouldn't want young people's views of sex to be influenced by it, but this desire of the Government to shame and restrict grown adults choices is bonkers and unworkable.
  • JT2060JT2060 Posts: 5,370
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    Porn is dreadful for impressionable young minds, warped by very explicit and dangerous images. It should be banned and thrown away to save these young souls.


    However, I'm 57, already warped and love it.
  • Keiō LineKeiō Line Posts: 12,979
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    reglip wrote: »
    It is workable Nokia phones are widely available. Some better leadership from schools maybe. Most schools phones are banned but maybe they need to be better at liasing with irresponsible parents to enforce the rules better. Schools could say that smart phones are banned but nokia style phones are not, encouraging parents to get their children non-smart phones
    Schools set homework that requires access to the internet. The idea of removing children from accessing the internet is neither practical or workable.
  • Doctor_WibbleDoctor_Wibble Posts: 26,580
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    zx50 wrote: »
    I'm not sure a lot of parents would want to pay for internet twice if that's what you mean.
    There's a number of options there - launder it through the education budget, take it as a deduction from child benefit, make it (simplistically) means tested, or if there's no funding to be had then make them work it off - there's still plenty of houses with chimneys that need sweeping. Alternatively it can be treated as a loan so they can get the hang of this indebtedness thing that will plague them for most of their adult life so this option will be educational in its own right.
  • Grabid RanniesGrabid Rannies Posts: 4,588
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    The great thing about the internet has been the proliferation of DIY porn. It's remarkable how much of the male general population can 'shoot', as opposed to the paid 'stars' of the profession who can barely manage a modest trickle.
  • St. AnthonySt. Anthony Posts: 1,122
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    Unfortunately kids are using porn to educate themselves about sex.

    Its a bit like watching Top Gear to learn how to drive.

    ;)

    I do think that porn affects the watcher in mainly negative ways, and the younger the more so.

    I am not a religious person, I am a humanist if anything, but do believe in the existence of good and bad...
    From past experience, I do know that if say I have watched a free ten minute porn clip that centres on women's bottoms. For example, that when I go for a walk later I do find myself taking much more interest in women's rear ends...

    On a more extreme note, so many serial killers / sex offenders seem to have one main common denominator, porn (and this goes way back to pre internert days).

    I am not totally anti porn, I do think explicit sex videos can be used to stimulate and educate, but there's so much potentially damaging crap out there too, and the ability to just watch so much of it for free can't be good for the brain and/or soul.

    Blimey we used to have to travel to another town on the bus to go to a newsagent that no one would recognise us in, to get our mags and videos, now its just far too easy, hoho.

    I look at those videos on YouTube of the crazy dudes climbing vertigo inducing buildings, I get a physical reaction... Porn deffo has an effect on the user in my opinion, in a similar, but "sexier" way, and potentially warping their attitudes to sex way.
  • marjanglesmarjangles Posts: 9,680
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    Keiō Line wrote: »
    Schools set homework that requires access to the internet. The idea of removing children from accessing the internet is neither practical or workable.

    If schools are setting homework which requires Internet access then parents need to sit with their kids to make sure they are safe online. Set up the only Internet computer in the family room and limit access to an hour a day, it's not difficult but it does require some parenting as opposed to simply using the Internet as a cheap babysitter.
  • MaxatoriaMaxatoria Posts: 17,980
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    Well at least watching pr0n should cut down on the number of teen pregnancies as the moment the young lad gets close he'll pull out and spray it all over the young ladies face thinking thats normal behaviour
  • Guts and GloryGuts and Glory Posts: 1,739
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    Lads these days don't know how lucky they are. When I was a schoolkid we didn't have the luxury of Internet phones or porn websites. There was a Sikh lad in our class whose dad owned a corner shop, and he used to sell us the out of date porno mags, but often we simply had to use our imaginations!
  • doe_a_deerdoe_a_deer Posts: 2,132
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    petertard wrote: »
    Porn sex can be misleading for young people because it does not show all the preparation needed before sex can be performed in a porn scene, and it is a performance, not normal sex. This is particularly the case with anal sex, where the orifice has to be specially prepared beforehand by stretching and cleaning, so that the organ can enter without causing significant damage. None of this is shown.

    Woah. Not sure there's ever the time and place for such a comment, but this certainly isn't it! Wise up.
  • BluescopeBluescope Posts: 3,432
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    The problem is the backwards way we think of sex in terms of young adults. If we are leaving young adults to find out about sex via the internet then they might have a point. However I don't actually think we give young adults enough credit. Teenagers are not as stupid as we would like to believe they are. Sure they are more prone to making the wrong choice or taking more risks but that is a part of growing up.

    However by that age they know what is right and what is wrong. Given a half decent education most understand the different between what happens in a film is not the same as what happens in a movie or game.

    The same is true for porn most kids by the age of 15-16 understand this is not real. For a start most of them would have seen a builder or gasman for example come to the house to do some work and at no point would he have gotten naked.

    The porn is not the problem is it parents wrapping their kids up in cotton wool failed to educate them on life. It should not be the states role alone to bring up kids the responsibility has to be with the parents to explain what sex is and how to deal with situations. It is the parents role to enforce the idea of what is right or wrong.

    too many other factors such as the music industry, films and games are used as excuses for bad parents and kids off the rail. Their was a case a few years ago in which a murder was blame on a video game by the parent. It made good headlines of course but the facts of case left out a lot of detail. It was an excuse because the kid in question was hooked on drugs and actually murder his friend over a gang related incident involving counterfeit money.

    The police, prosecution and defence said the game had no bearing on the case. Despite this fact it is still used today in the media as the case against computer games.
  • Keiō LineKeiō Line Posts: 12,979
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    marjangles wrote: »
    If schools are setting homework which requires Internet access then parents need to sit with their kids to make sure they are safe online. Set up the only Internet computer in the family room and limit access to an hour a day, it's not difficult but it does require some parenting as opposed to simply using the Internet as a cheap babysitter.

    Neither practical, workable or desirable
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