Join or Die with Craig Ferguson

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Apologies for starting a new thread for this, but the other The Late Late Show threads on this forum don’t feel entirely appropriate anymore...

I’m a bit late on reporting this (but I haven’t seen it reported anywhere else on these forums yet), but former host of The Late Late Show – Craig Ferguson, will soon be returning to television with a new programme he’s created, produces and hosts – ‘Join or Die with Craig Ferguson’. It will air on the History Channel early 2016.

This is from the History website: Join or Die with Craig Ferguson features the comedian debating provocative and timely topics in his unorthodox and iconoclastic manner. Each episode features a panel of guests which will include celebrities, comedians and experts, as well as the American public through social media. Topics will include: biggest presidential campaign flop, greatest founding father and which invention was history's greatest game-changer.
http://www.history.com/shows/join-or-die-with-craig-ferguson


Craig Ferguson also currently hosts the syndicated game show Celebrity Name Game.

I really like Craig Ferguson, and this sounds like an interesting format for him. I’m hoping we get to see it on History in the UK. Hopefully the fact that he’s a Scottish comedian might help it getting broadcast over here.
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  • degsyhufcdegsyhufc Posts: 59,251
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    I do like discussion/panel shows like this. QI, Great Unanswered Questions and similar shows like Alan Davies: As Yet Untitled and Dinner For Five.

    So I might give it a watch to see what it's about.
  • hazydayzhazydayz Posts: 6,909
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    I'd love to see this over here. I do think he's big into history so he's clearly not doing it as a job, it's something he likes and that's why I think it will be good. I'll contact History over here and tell them I want to be shown over here.

    Craig will actually be over here next week for Christmas and will be attending a concert. I was gonna go, the concert does look good and I like the music but I don't know what I'd say without making myself look foolish. It sounds silly right? I've always wanted to meet him and then he tells you where he's gonna be which is not that far from me and I bottle it lol. One day noentry2k! One day it will happen.
  • NoEntry2kNoEntry2k Posts: 14,985
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    hazydayz wrote: »
    I'd love to see this over here. I do think he's big into history so he's clearly not doing it as a job, it's something he likes and that's why I think it will be good. I'll contact History over here and tell them I want to be shown over here.

    Craig will actually be over here next week for Christmas and will be attending a concert. I was gonna go, the concert does look good and I like the music but I don't know what I'd say without making myself look foolish. It sounds silly right? I've always wanted to meet him and then he tells you where he's gonna be which is not that far from me and I bottle it lol. One day noentry2k! One day it will happen.

    Hopefully the UK version of History will broadcast it over here. If anyone sees it appear in the scheduled please bump this thread so that we can all watch it!

    Yes, I saw on twitter that he’s probably going to the Dead Man Fall gig in Glasgow next week. I (very briefly) met him when I was in LA last year, he seemed like a genuine down to earth guy so I’m sure he wouldn’t mind being approached by a fan while he’s over here. I suspect it’s somewhat of a novelty for him to meet a Late Late Show fan in his native land (it having never aired over here).
  • hazydayzhazydayz Posts: 6,909
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    I'll at least let them know that people in this country are aware of the show and with Craig coming from here it would be nice to have it air over here aswell and it seems like it's going to be a bit different and the guests are going to be quite active in it.


    I agree with everything you said but this for me leads to other issues I have, I'm probably wrong but here is my issues with meeting Craig. First of all I've been a fan for many years so I do want to meet him and would be nice to spend some time with him and ask him questions etc. Secondly the North, East, South, West areas of Glasgow are very different and the West End, where this concert is happens to be Craig's favourite part because he worked in the bars there for years. It's full of rich people. That's where most Scottish actors and entertainers live, i'm not joking, there are parts there where you are literally walking past million pound homes, people pay money just to live there. Most of the schools there are private schools and I know that just by telling you this that i've pretty much just admitted that I don't see myself as being in the same class as them, which i'm not, i'm from the south side of Glasgow which is the working class/pauper end and I'm not ashamed of that one bit but I'm not familiar with that part of Glasgow very well. It's a very money orientated place so right away I don't like going there or want to go there, but he's there and he's said it's his favourite place now there's no way he wont like it. He's a millionaire, the place is crawling with actors and singers and people looking to be the next big thing, it's all arty people, of course he's gonna love it there but then I think of all the times where he's bashed celebrity lifestyles and even with his game show Celebrity Name Game he went out his way a few times to talk about how he prefers talking to the guests because they are real people and he did that many times on The Late Late Show and I'm trying to look at both sides and think is one side part of the act and the other side what the man is really like. I think i'm right in that he's not interested in the rich and famous, and he certainly isn't considered that here......which is why I always thought it might be ok but then I think am I wrong for thinking that way? At least you've met him and you would know by the way he spoke to you and make eye contact. Maybe it's just me and my problems with that part of Glasgow and the rich and famous and those with money basically saying this is our part of Glasgow, we're too good for the other parts and I just don't like it or feel comfortable and Craig's said similar things in the past about not always getting along with people that have money or they flaunt their money but then you think about it and realise.....hes' got plenty of money of himself. I don't know. Probably I'm wrong and everything would be ok.


    This is why you should be here noentry2k! You could have came with me! And then if i make myself look foolish you can step in and save the day!
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    hazydayz wrote: »
    This is why you should be here noentry2k! You could have came with me! And then if i make myself look foolish you can step in and save the day!

    I could introduce you to him, I'm sure he'll remember me (yeah right!). :D
  • hazydayzhazydayz Posts: 6,909
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    He might, you might have one of those faces people don't forget lol.

    I was on the Twitter trying to talk to some locals that are going to see if i could tag along but they don't reply to me or follow me back. One of them's the wife of the drummer in Dead Man Fall so I can't say to her, it would need to be someone neutral. I could find plenty of people going to the gig but I'm wanting to meet Craig, I want someone to go who wants to meet Craig too.

    Do you think I'm wrong? With my opinions on that part of Glasgow and the people there or do you think rich or poor people don't care what you are and you should be treated the same? That's why it would be good to tag along with someone neutral because then if it is all rich people and local up and coming stars then I wouldn't feel as annoyed and I could join in on a conversation and say hi rather than going in there alone and possibly into the lions den. I'm not saying that's Craig's fault but it's how I'd feel.
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    hazydayz wrote: »
    He might, you might have one of those faces people don't forget lol.

    I was on the Twitter trying to talk to some locals that are going to see if i could tag along but they don't reply to me or follow me back. One of them's the wife of the drummer in Dead Man Fall so I can't say to her, it would need to be someone neutral. I could find plenty of people going to the gig but I'm wanting to meet Craig, I want someone to go who wants to meet Craig too.

    Do you think I'm wrong? With my opinions on that part of Glasgow and the people there or do you think rich or poor people don't care what you are and you should be treated the same? That's why it would be good to tag along with someone neutral because then if it is all rich people and local up and coming stars then I wouldn't feel as annoyed and I could join in on a conversation and say hi rather than going in there alone and possibly into the lions den. I'm not saying that's Craig's fault but it's how I'd feel.

    I live in London, not Glasgow, so can't comment with any type of real knowledge but your whole 'I'm poor so can't socialise with the rich' attitude does seem a bit paranoid. You make parts of Glasgow sound like Downtown Abbey where the 'rich' and 'poor' never shall mix! It can't be that bad can it?
    I'm sure there will be people from all walks of life at the gig and you'd be fine. And if anyone there thinks their better than you, sod 'em! They still live in Glasgow after all, not Beverly Hills. :D

    Maybe it's not quite the same but I travelled to New York and LA to see/meet Jimmy Fallon, Conan O'Brien and Craig Ferguson. Did I feel like a fish out of water sometimes, yeah (not because of how anyone treated me though), but it was totally worth it for the experience.
  • NoEntry2kNoEntry2k Posts: 14,985
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    This promo was posted by the History channel last week... it looks VERY much like Craig Ferguson’s Late Late Show, which is very good news in my books! It appears he’s even going to be doing his signature monologue, close up to the camera which is slightly above his eye line. I’ now really hoping History UK show this!

    http://twitter.com/JoinOrDieHIST/status/681932299173236736
  • hazydayzhazydayz Posts: 6,909
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    I was on a short holiday so couldn't reply :P

    He was on stage at the gig but nowhere in sight at the venue, i assume he was backstage so I don't know anyone other than the band that met him. He has a beard now too which looks good.


    I do like the look of this show, to be honest I didn't know how it was going to be and still don't. I'm assuming the monolgues wont be topical as they will have taped in advance but some of my favourite monologues from him on The Late Late Show were about topics that weren't topical at all and were just his opinions on different subjects so I hope this is where he is headed with them. Is there any news on number of episodes or length of episodes?
  • NoEntry2kNoEntry2k Posts: 14,985
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    hazydayz wrote: »
    Is there any news on number of episodes or length of episodes?

    16 episodes, 30 minutes each. Due to start on History in February in the US (no news on whether it’ll air in the UK yet).

    I really like the look of it, both the same and very different to his Late Late Show at the same time, if that makes sense!
  • hazydayzhazydayz Posts: 6,909
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    I like the look of it too from that promo, i just wonder how it will play out. Like a gameshow or maybe a certain topic and then talk about it or maybe bring celebrities on and talk about their favourite historical time of America?
  • NoEntry2kNoEntry2k Posts: 14,985
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    hazydayz wrote: »
    I like the look of it too from that promo, i just wonder how it will play out. Like a gameshow or maybe a certain topic and then talk about it or maybe bring celebrities on and talk about their favourite historical time of America?

    From what I’ve read it’ll be a ‘provocative, unorthodox and iconoclastic’ discussion panel show featuring celebrities and subject experts talking about such topics as - what was the biggest presidential campaign flop; who was the greatest founding father; and which invention was history’s greatest game-changer.

    So sort of like his ‘The Late Late Show’, but with guests jointly discussing a historical topic rather than their latest movie. And, unfortunately, no puppets, gay robot skeleton or fake horse.
  • hazydayzhazydayz Posts: 6,909
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    I think it will be good fun, I'm sure it will be provocative and wont be rated PG like most of his run with the Late Late Show but i'm kinda looking forward to Craig in a setting where he will have to stick to topics and it's not topical, he can't talk about the news etc because I think it will be far funnier. I did notice from some pics posted online that Tuen and Lisa his make up and hair assistants from The Late Late Show were working on Celebrity Name Game with him so it could be they are here too and a lot of the same people he worked with at CBS have been brought with him, I don't know if that is good or bad for him having the same people around him, the only reason I say that and I mean no disrespect to Tuen or Lisa but I'm sure there are plenty of talented people working there that could do his hair and makeup so if he's brought them he's obviously doing it to give them a job, which is nice but I don't think he would have brought just them alone.


    I think it will be good. It's something different.
  • degsyhufcdegsyhufc Posts: 59,251
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    When I read the brief I was thinking of a mix of QI and Great Unanswered Questions (NI panel show).
  • hazydayzhazydayz Posts: 6,909
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    I just hope i'm able to watch it once it airs in America and hopefully it airs over here aswell.
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    NoEntry2k wrote: »
    16 episodes, 30 minutes each. Due to start on History in February in the US (no news on whether it’ll air in the UK yet).

    I really like the look of it, both the same and very different to his Late Late Show at the same time, if that makes sense!
    Seems to now have increased to 22 half hour episodes debuting Feb 18th in the US. link
  • NoEntry2kNoEntry2k Posts: 14,985
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    ohglobbits wrote: »
    Seems to now have increased to 22 half hour episodes debuting Feb 18th in the US. link

    Thanks, and it'll air in a late night slot too, so it'll really have a Late Late Show vibe!

    Let's just hope History UK pick it up. Do they air most of their US original content? All I know is that they don't air Top Gear US which is one of theirs (and is really quite good).
  • hazydayzhazydayz Posts: 6,909
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    Did you see any clips from the press conference he did? I can only find text from it and i do like his new beard. What do you think of it?
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    hazydayz wrote: »
    Did you see any clips from the press conference he did? I can only find text from it and i do like his new beard. What do you think of it?

    I've only seen articles from the press conference, no video.
    As for the beard - it's unusual. Most people go grey in their beard first, then their hair. Craig Ferguson has a light brown beard and grey hair.

    I've also read that Craig Ferguson recently donated a six figure sum to a children's hospital in Aberdeen. They are going to name the critical care unit after him. He sounds like a really nice guy.
  • hazydayzhazydayz Posts: 6,909
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    I'm sure there will be more press and interviews for it in the coming weeks. He's had pictures with a grey beard so i assume he must have coloured it, the weird thing also is that when he wets his hair, or at least on the LLS his hair did look black again and i know he used gel a lot so I would have assumed black would have been the colour of his beard. I know he said in the past he didn't like the idea of dyeing his hair because it would look obvious but i think some darker colour in his hair wouldn't be too bad.

    I read that too and I can see that making a huge difference to the hospital. I don't know the reason behind why that hospital was chosen, I can't see him just picking one at random. I think if I had that kind of money I would try and help out locally in that way too. I wonder if this will be a regular thing or if he will make his way back over here more often. I know it probably wont happen but it would be nice if he done a show over here or one of the comedy clubs.
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    Just noticed this extra long clip at the top of History's youtube page, interestingly this premieres the same night as the new series of Vikings, presumably straight after.
  • hazydayzhazydayz Posts: 6,909
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    I've watched the first 2 episodes so far and quite like it.
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    I like the lack of focus that the critics seem to hate, I didn"t watch to learn something new but to see Craig and co loosely riff around various talking points which is what he's always done. Welcome back Craig's monologue
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    I preferred the second episode to the first but i think that had more to do with how indepth some of the discussion was and I wish I had known all that stuff about what they used to do years ago to try and heal people. It seemed to fly by and I do like his monologues and they seem fresh. I do get the feeling Craig is excited by it, a few times he got a bit carried away with some topics which was nice to see.
  • degsyhufcdegsyhufc Posts: 59,251
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    I wasn't too impressed with the first episode.

    I think he was trying too hard with the monologue to be like his previous show.

    I also thought some of the contenders were weak. Even if they concentrated on those 6 I can't believe that there weren't other mentions.

    Clinton and his oval office shenennigans.
    McCain naming Palin as his running mate.
    Quayle and his spelling issues.

    and he could have has a throw away joke about bypassing Palin because it would take up the whole show.

    I also thought being Scottish the Gordon Brown bigotgate incident might have got a mention.


    Not much they can do in 20 minutes though.
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