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Boeing 777 crashes at San Fransico airport

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    davidmcndavidmcn Posts: 12,137
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    twingle wrote: »
    why are they carrying their hand luggage. We are always told in an emergency everything gets lefts on the plane :confused:

    Better to get the passengers out fast than waste time arguing with them about what they have in their hands.
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    GroutyGrouty Posts: 34,091
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    Amazing how those on board could only care about a quick to the internet! :p
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    swingalegswingaleg Posts: 103,240
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    jojo01 wrote: »
    From the images on Sky, it looks as if the landing gear may have clipped the edge of what looks to me like some sort of lake before the runway and then it's scraped along from there.

    I think that's the Pacific Ocean...........the airport is right up against the ocean

    Looks like the pilot came down too soon or too steeply and only just made it onto dry land..............
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    Thine WonkThine Wonk Posts: 17,190
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    I doubt that. I suspect either all or some of the landing gear has failed, possibly left wing, the plane has hit the runway and the tail came away as a result of the impact. Plane has then slid off and spun around.

    They did declare an emergency landing before, and there's no way they would deliberately attempted to land inches from the start of the runway, that isn't the normal landing place.

    Also reports of a very steep descent, so a heavy landing for some reason, my guess would be a fuel line or issue causing multiple engines to fail which meant they had to come in on no engines, and the tail came off on the heavy landing. That scenario fits better.
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    DolphinusDolphinus Posts: 245
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    Spooky
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    InspirationInspiration Posts: 62,731
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    swingaleg wrote: »
    I think that's the Pacific Ocean...........the airport is right up against the ocean

    It's San Francisco Bay.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 32,379
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    I doubt that. I suspect either all or some of the landing gear has failed, possibly left wing, the plane has hit the runway and the tail came away as a result of the impact. Plane has then slid off and spun around.

    This witness says landing gear problems.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/06/san-francisco-airport-plane-crash-boeing
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    swingalegswingaleg Posts: 103,240
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    It's San Francisco Bay.

    yeah............but that's part of the pacific ocean...........it's the coastal part...............:D
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    GroutyGrouty Posts: 34,091
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    Im watching on CNN.
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    InspirationInspiration Posts: 62,731
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    Very very very lucky passengers. Seems they only just made it onto the runway and literally clipped the rocks of the bay.
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    MargMckMargMck Posts: 24,115
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    If everyone has survived that it shows how aircraft build safety for passengers has improved.
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    GroutyGrouty Posts: 34,091
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    Reports of people with burns.
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    LockesLockes Posts: 6,568
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    It amazes me how people stop to take pictures after such an horrendous incident, they are braver than me :o
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    CrazyLoopCrazyLoop Posts: 31,148
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    Hope everyone hasn't been injured

    Could have been so much worse but thankfully it wasn't. Still scary though!
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    mountymounty Posts: 19,239
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    hope the passengers and crew are ok, pictures on the bbc showed the plane was absolutely gutted by fire
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    MargMckMargMck Posts: 24,115
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    I love the internet. 40 mins ago we were looking at the pic by a survivor put on Twitter. Just now Sky News finally put it up as some major new bit of the story they'd got hold of.
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    GroutyGrouty Posts: 34,091
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    Body found :(
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    TerraCanisTerraCanis Posts: 14,099
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    China Airlines Flight 642 crashed and exploded at Hong Kong in 1999.

    Of 315 on board, 3 (yes, three) died.

    It featured on C4's "Terror in the Skies" and having seen the video of the fireball when it hit the ground, I was astonished that there were any survivors.
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    BrooklynBoyBrooklynBoy Posts: 10,595
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    2+2=5 wrote: »
    "Haven't felt this way since 9/11" :confused:

    :rolleyes:
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    spkxspkx Posts: 14,870
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    Reminds me of BA038
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    tellytart1tellytart1 Posts: 3,684
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    Grouty wrote: »
    Body found :(

    Not confirmed by the news wires.
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    InspirationInspiration Posts: 62,731
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    2+2=5 wrote: »
    "Haven't felt this way since 9/11" :confused:

    Clearly they don't recall the plane that crashed in the Hudson River or the one that went down in Queens.
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    ff999ff999 Posts: 4,549
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    spkx wrote: »
    Reminds me of BA038

    Me too

    Just looking at sky news' overhead shots of the runway. You have to feel for the aircraft that appears to have been waiting to take off. They would have seen it all happen, wondering if it was going to hit them.
    Now, with debris everywhere, the aircraft is stuck. Hopefully, if they haven't already done it, they'll get some steps to get the punters off.
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    egghead1egghead1 Posts: 4,782
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    ff999 wrote: »
    Me too

    Just looking at sky news' overhead shots of the runway. You have to feel for the aircraft that appears to have been waiting to take off. They would have seen it all happen, wondering if it was going to hit them.
    Now, with debris everywhere, the aircraft is stuck. Hopefully, if they haven't already done it, they'll get some steps to get the punters off.

    Imagine being a passenger on waiting plane,"I think i'll get the ferry..."
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    Rodney McKayRodney McKay Posts: 8,143
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    spkx wrote: »
    Reminds me of BA038

    Yes a loss of power would be a reason why they perhaps had such a nose up and tail down landing if they were struggling for lift. In the BA case the crew put the flaps up to reduce dag which bought them a few more metres in distance.

    The ice in the fuel lines was fixed though and I think only an issue with Rolls Royce engines.
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