EastEnders: Why is Johnny Carter implied to be camper than he is?
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He hides Dirty Dancing the film in his room, but laughs at his Uncle Dean's skinny jeans. He's acts much more macho on screen than he's ever implied to be. Is this intentional or is the actor playing the character wrong?
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How do these two things contradict each other? I wouldn't call Johnny "macho" and I wouldn't say the writers have implied he's camp either. Characters don't have be defined by one word, with all their actions being dictated by that, people in real life aren't like that so why should fictional characters be.
A feminine side we don't see.
Okay maybe I haven't articulated well.
What I'm trying to say is it seems there is a softer more feminine side to him we don't get to see.
He is not camp.
He likes musicals.
Camp does not = Musicals.
Agreed.
Gosh!
I'm not a massive fan of Johnny as a character, but he's very well rounded as a character, for better or worse. His sexuality is not his defining feature.
agreed
Linda could start noticing some of her clothes are missing but assume it is Nancy borrowing them. It would be played as a serious storyline but would eventually have a happy outcome where Johnny starts up a cabaret act in the Vic and adopts a drag mother.
I think Sam Strike has the acting chops to play it really sensitively and sweetly.
I can't suss whether this is a joke or not…
I think Johnny is a great representation of gay people on TV; different to your Christian Clarke or Sean Tully
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I'm gay and I love action movies I quite like a musical every now and then too but action movies are awesome.
Back to the topic though I'm not camp (I have my moments on odd occasions) and I'm gay. In fact Johnny as a character and his story inspired me to come out - partly because Johnny is the closest representation of a gay man in the media today to myself, so I can relate to him in various circumstances, situations, mannerisms and other things.
Yeah, this is the problem I have with him and the rest of his family. As a character by itself, I think he's very well-rounded. He's not one thing or another. Just because a character is gay and they like "feminine" associated things (which is in itself based on stereotype) does not meet they are camp. I think the way Johnny is written is that he likes those things because he likes those things.
I don't think he is playing the character wrong at all. Being gay is about having romantic feelings or relationships for/with the same gender, not about appearance, or the way you act, or the way you speak, or dress, or just the way you are in general. Therefore aside from Johnny preferring blokes I don't see a right or wrong with Sam Strike and how he plays a gay male character. Johnny's a lot like me in a number of ways so for me I kinda associate with him a bit. Therefore for me Sam Strike is doing an amazing job in portraying Johnny. A lot of people have a checklist of how a gay person should act and that is what defines them as gay - its about how that person feels inside, in their minds, in their hearts (and in other areas too haha) especially towards those of the same gender, not how they act in general.
You should see Sam Strike when he isn't playing Johnny, he is actually quite bolshy and very different to the character he plays. He does put a camp touch on Jonny which i don't like.
I wouldn't say bolshy is the word. I'd go with awkward, but then both the actor and the character are awkward in the way they act. I find it rather cute. :kitty: