Ha ha. The washing machine repair man asked me if I would step out onto my patiio to smoke while he looked at my conked out machine.
I asked him to step outside and get in his car and drive away up the drive.
Seems he was perfectly entitled to do so as my home was his place of work. The world's gone effing mad.
So you were left feeling slightly smug, but still with a conked out appliance? If he was a non-smoker come to fix your washing machine, couldn't you have at least offered him that small courtesy? He probably doesn't like having to ask either, if working for an electrical appliance chain, he has to go where he gets sent. I would have the wherewithall to recognise that I reckon had it been my house.
I think there should be smoking and non smoking rooms in pubs or just smoking and non smoking pubs.
It's ridiculous that the government still sell **** to everyone yet they won't let you go into a pub and smoke.
My step father smokes a pipe and has boycotted the British Legion since the smoking ban. He used to really enjoy it but says he feels like a leper having to go outside and light up.l It's such a shame and my mum used to enjoy it when he went there for a bit of peace.
The only time smoking outdoors irritates me is if it's windy and the smoke goes right in my face and noone makes any sort of apology.
But I can't believe people have been so rude to you!
You try to hide the first part of your post being completely ridiculous and self important by saying in that you empathise with the OP in the last part..
I love those people that do the fake cough thing while I'm smoking outside.They really do cheer me up and make me laugh.I wish I could get upset about things so easily.
I feel sorry for them. They must have really crappy lives.
So you were left feeling slightly smug, but still with a conked out appliance? If he was a non-smoker come to fix your washing machine, couldn't you have at least offered him that small courtesy?
I believe that I am entitled to do what I please in my own home and make the most of it until smoking in your own living room gets outlawed.
I bought a new washing machine after a plumber mate of mine confirmed the old one was deceased.
Ha ha. The washing machine repair man asked me if I would step out onto my patio to smoke while he looked at my conked out machine.
I asked him to step outside and get in his car and drive away up the drive.
Seems he was perfectly entitled to do so as my home was his place of work. The world's gone effing mad.
...you think it's mad for an engineer to ask to work in a safer environment? He's fixing your appliance, why should he have to risk getting a life threatening disease?
I appreciate that it was your home, but you don't sound very considerate of service providers.
Because smoking is one of the few things in life that adversely affects those who don't do it.
Like driving a car/heating/being a persistant icehole?
I bet 99% of the sanctimonious non smokers would not withstand a test, if their sorry lifes doesn't affect anyone else..
Since bullies can't now get at Black and gay people anymore, they go for health bullying, fat/smoking etc .. :yawn: while they probably shag a syphilitic hooker/escort and then go home to the husband/wife, while flying airplanes and 4x4 with no regard to the environment..
I wouldn't dream of sitting on someone else's table and then demanding that they do not smoke. That would be the height of bad manners, and that is coming from a non smoker.
how is being considerate to other people telling them to sit somewhere else.
how rude of them asking you not to smoke for an 1 - 1 1/2 hrs.:rolleyes:
If its so horrible and filthy and costs a lot then why not stop
Actually considering they by-passed the bar and decided against sitting on another table where the couple didn't smoke I think I was perfectly within my rights to feel a bit miffed?
I sat outside so I could smoke? As I am legally entitled to do so
I think its pretty unacceptable to smoke when there is a baby or young child close by. I remember when my dad still smoked and if someone came into a pub or something with a young child and he was smoking, he'd either put it out move elsewhere. But otherwise these people do sound quite rude.
...you think it's mad for an engineer to ask to work in a safer environment? He's fixing your appliance, why should he have to risk getting a life threatening disease?
I appreciate that it was your home, but you don't sound very considerate of service providers.
Would being in my utility room whilst I smoked in the living room, with a massive kitchen between us and 3 closed doors really give him a life threatening disease ?
Would it really ?
If so, anyone who has ever been in the prescence of a smoker is doomed and the world population is due to be decimated.
I just wish some smokers would dispose of their **** ends better. In our local pub which has a great lawned area to laze around on in the summer, the grass becomes rapidly covered in butts and ash. When it gets busy the ashtrays don't get emptied very often but rather than get up and empty them into the ash bin by the door, the ashtray gets full to overflowing.
Also why does it seem to be acceptable to leave empty packets and match boxes, rizla wrappers etc littering the table?
But I am sure the majority of DS users are considerate.
I don't know what kind of pubs you use but round here the staff collect empty glasses, empty the ash trays and also clear any rubbish on the table, including what you list but also crisp/nuts packets (I note you didn't mention them)
You try to hide the first part of your post being completely ridiculous and self important by saying in that you empathise with the OP in the last part..
unbelievable !
Why in the world is that ridiculous? When the wind blows smoke right in my face it feels the same as if someone came up to me and just blew it in my face themselves. Personally I would apologise.
Wishing someone cancer is a rather different matter, and I can't believe someone would be that rude.
Like driving a car/heating/being a persistant icehole?
I bet 99% of the sanctimonious non smokers would not withstand a test, if their sorry lifes doesn't affect anyone else..
Since bullies can't now get at Black and gay people anymore, they go for health bullying, fat/smoking etc .. :yawn: while they probably shag a syphilitic hooker/escort and then go home to the husband/wife, while flying airplanes and 4x4 with no regard to the environment..
Smokers have to smoke outside now, which is the safest option for non-smokers. People drive cars outside also, which is safer than driving indoors.
I don't agree that non-smokers have a right to moan about people smoking outside, but I can also envisage some scenarios where the smoker really should be more considerate.
Yesterday afternoon the OH and I were sat outside a pub when a woman with two kids (youngest 'kid' appeared to be about 14?) asked if she could join us, I said of course but told her we were both smokers. She then tutted and said surely we could manage not to smoke while they had a drink or two???
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****ing cheek! I'd have promptly withdrawn my consent to them sitting next to me, on account of having a nasty allergy to sanctimonious twots.
I don't know what kind of pubs you use but round here the staff collect empty glass, empty the ash trays and also clear any rubbish on the table, including what you list but also crisp.nuts packets (I note you didn't mention them)
I go to lots of pubs- and I guess you didn't read the bit about when it is busy the ashtrays aren't emptied as much.
Beaches are the same. When I smoked (been 14 months now) and we were out I would always dispose of ash and butts in a can or whatever. A minority of people still seem to think you can throw it on the ground.
My post wasn't a dig at all smokers- just the slobs who throw them out of car windows and leave them floating in half finshed beer glasses.
And I am sure smokers eat crips and leave packets too....
Would being in my utility room whilst I smoked in the living room, with a massive kitchen between us and 3 closed doors really give him a life threatening disease ?
Would it really ?
If so, anyone who has ever been in the prescence of a smoker is doomed and the world population is due to be decimated.
Had you given us that nugget of information first, you may of received some different responses....
Would being in my utility room whilst I smoked in the living room, with a massive kitchen between us and 3 closed doors really give him a life threatening disease ?
Would it really ?
If so, anyone who has ever been in the prescence of a smoker is doomed and the world population is due to be decimated.
I'd have told him where to go too.Theres plenty of engineers who would do the work for you.His loss.
Just for the record, I wouldn't complain about a smoker. However, smoking aggravates my asthma and mine isn't that severe, so your smoking can be damaging to some people. That said, I would hope that severe asthmatics would be wise enough to not keep themselves a fair distance from smokers if they can.
The only time I've bitched as a smoker is when they flicked ash on me. :mad:
Had you given us that nugget of information first, you may of received some different responses....
Totally immaterial to me where he was or where I was ......and you make it sound like I'm unhappy with the responses. Everyone has an opinion and mine is that I can do as I please inside my own home.
I hasten to add that I was always a respectful smoker in restaurants before the ban and I go outside to smoke in my non smoker friends houses ...... but the washing machine incident is just one step too far.
Edit : see post 58 where I mentioned I was in the living room.
I believe that I am entitled to do what I please in my own home and make the most of it until smoking in your own living room gets outlawed.
I bought a new washing machine after a plumber mate of mine confirmed the old one was deceased.
I believe you are too. I'm saying that being a courteous sort of chap, I would have gone outside to smoke, seeing that the nice fellow who had come to repair my washing machine didn't smoke himself. If such common courtesy isn't in your nature, fair enough I guess.
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So you were left feeling slightly smug, but still with a conked out appliance? If he was a non-smoker come to fix your washing machine, couldn't you have at least offered him that small courtesy? He probably doesn't like having to ask either, if working for an electrical appliance chain, he has to go where he gets sent. I would have the wherewithall to recognise that I reckon had it been my house.
Because smoking is one of the few things in life that adversely affects those who don't do it.
I have asthma so would have also asked but would have said the reason also.
It's ridiculous that the government still sell **** to everyone yet they won't let you go into a pub and smoke.
My step father smokes a pipe and has boycotted the British Legion since the smoking ban. He used to really enjoy it but says he feels like a leper having to go outside and light up.l It's such a shame and my mum used to enjoy it when he went there for a bit of peace.
You try to hide the first part of your post being completely ridiculous and self important by saying in that you empathise with the OP in the last part..
unbelievable !
I feel sorry for them. They must have really crappy lives.
I believe that I am entitled to do what I please in my own home and make the most of it until smoking in your own living room gets outlawed.
I bought a new washing machine after a plumber mate of mine confirmed the old one was deceased.
...you think it's mad for an engineer to ask to work in a safer environment? He's fixing your appliance, why should he have to risk getting a life threatening disease?
I appreciate that it was your home, but you don't sound very considerate of service providers.
Like driving a car/heating/being a persistant icehole?
I bet 99% of the sanctimonious non smokers would not withstand a test, if their sorry lifes doesn't affect anyone else..
Since bullies can't now get at Black and gay people anymore, they go for health bullying, fat/smoking etc .. :yawn: while they probably shag a syphilitic hooker/escort and then go home to the husband/wife, while flying airplanes and 4x4 with no regard to the environment..
This ^^
Actually considering they by-passed the bar and decided against sitting on another table where the couple didn't smoke I think I was perfectly within my rights to feel a bit miffed?
I sat outside so I could smoke? As I am legally entitled to do so
They bought their kids to sit with us???
Just to recap - woman came to sit with us - we did not go and sit with them and start blowing smoke in their faces.
I offered her two alternatives which she was unhappy with
Would being in my utility room whilst I smoked in the living room, with a massive kitchen between us and 3 closed doors really give him a life threatening disease ?
Would it really ?
If so, anyone who has ever been in the prescence of a smoker is doomed and the world population is due to be decimated.
I don't know what kind of pubs you use but round here the staff collect empty glasses, empty the ash trays and also clear any rubbish on the table, including what you list but also crisp/nuts packets (I note you didn't mention them)
Why in the world is that ridiculous? When the wind blows smoke right in my face it feels the same as if someone came up to me and just blew it in my face themselves. Personally I would apologise.
Wishing someone cancer is a rather different matter, and I can't believe someone would be that rude.
Hope that's cleared things up for you :rolleyes:
Smokers have to smoke outside now, which is the safest option for non-smokers. People drive cars outside also, which is safer than driving indoors.
I don't agree that non-smokers have a right to moan about people smoking outside, but I can also envisage some scenarios where the smoker really should be more considerate.
****ing cheek! I'd have promptly withdrawn my consent to them sitting next to me, on account of having a nasty allergy to sanctimonious twots.
Oh poor smokers.......
When smoking was widespread (and it's far from it now) smokers were far less considerate of non smokers than is the case nowdays.
I go to lots of pubs- and I guess you didn't read the bit about when it is busy the ashtrays aren't emptied as much.
Beaches are the same. When I smoked (been 14 months now) and we were out I would always dispose of ash and butts in a can or whatever. A minority of people still seem to think you can throw it on the ground.
My post wasn't a dig at all smokers- just the slobs who throw them out of car windows and leave them floating in half finshed beer glasses.
And I am sure smokers eat crips and leave packets too....
Had you given us that nugget of information first, you may of received some different responses....
I'd have told him where to go too.Theres plenty of engineers who would do the work for you.His loss.
She sounds like a right sanctimonious b*tch!
The only time I've bitched as a smoker is when they flicked ash on me. :mad:
Totally immaterial to me where he was or where I was ......and you make it sound like I'm unhappy with the responses. Everyone has an opinion and mine is that I can do as I please inside my own home.
I hasten to add that I was always a respectful smoker in restaurants before the ban and I go outside to smoke in my non smoker friends houses ...... but the washing machine incident is just one step too far.
Edit : see post 58 where I mentioned I was in the living room.
I believe you are too. I'm saying that being a courteous sort of chap, I would have gone outside to smoke, seeing that the nice fellow who had come to repair my washing machine didn't smoke himself. If such common courtesy isn't in your nature, fair enough I guess.
Er ... hello ?
What's the difference between this woman and the washing machine bloke ?
Make up your mind if people asking you not to smoke in their prescence is acceptable or not as you seem a smidge confused