Junior and Princess filmed at cupcake decorating classes.

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  • WAKEYLASSWAKEYLASS Posts: 6,085
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    lozenger wrote: »
    I think it probably is harmless in the great scheme of how their life has been... but surely his PR must see that this is not a good move - even if they dont care about the kids, they must know it doesnt look good on PA?

    I don't know what they are thinking of....maybe CP and PA are doing it to prove a point to KP that she will not dictate to them what PA does with his kids when they are with him. If that's the case, then yet again, they are using the children as pawns in their stupid little tit for tat games.
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    WAKEYLASS wrote: »
    I don't know what they are thinking of....maybe CP and PA are doing it to prove a point to KP that she will not dictate to them what PA does with his kids when they are with him. If that's the case, then yet again, they are using the children as pawns in their stupid little tit for tat games.

    Totally agree!
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    cazzz wrote: »
    another staged event to get some filming in for the series....it proveds he needs the kids for his show as he has no show if its just him.

    I think Claire Powell is missing a trick...she should do her own reality show, involving her own mag dealings her giving her "friends view" on things. She could have a different zeleb client each week:yawn:

    He has nothing going for him without them, that's why he'll continue to ignore KP's wishes about gaining some privacy back for the children. He's worse then her when it comes to exploiting the children!
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    I would rather see the children making cakes than see Jordan looking a trollop in a dress and seeing her with yet ANOTHER man.
    I'd say she was more of a PR disaster.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,802
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    To me, the whole 'don't want the kids filmed anymore' buisness was blatantly because she had become aware of opinion by some that Pete would have no show without them.

    I've thought for a while that she may well be aware of DS and it's content regarding her.
    There have been a couple of instances where she has said something that could have been lifted straight from DS, suddenly acknowledging her 'tranny' look after it had been discussed at length on here for example.
    I think she may well have thought that taking a lead about removing the kids from the spotlight would be good on two fronts for her. Firstly she could at last appear to be putting the kids first and secondly in her mind at least, harm Pete's career by forcing him to do the same. Not only that but it would give her some kind of control over Pete, spite him and if as she may have started to believe from public comment, put the mockers on his reality show.

    He clearly isn't going to be controlled by her anymore and it must be infuriating for her.

    These latest pics of him and the children at least show him engaging with his children on their level. All her interactions with them seem somehow stilted and disconnected,
    she seems to have no idea how to interact with them at their level, we rarely if ever got to see her playing with them at childrens games, play washing up, or with lego or dolls, collouring, any of the normal activities that children enjoy. Instead it's trips to the hair salon or theme parks which is a lazy way to spend time with them. She always seems to behave more like an auntie with the children, someone who's fond of them but has no real idea of their daily routine or what the childrens real needs are.

    It remains to be seen how much the children will feature in his new show but in any case I think it's unlikely that he would continue if 'he' really believed the children had reached a point where they were uncomfortable.
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    WAKEYLASS wrote: »
    The odd snippet of the children on either show, imo is harmless, that is not to say that an entire programme/series should revolve around them. As of yet, I am still unsure of KP's motives in wanting the younger two removed from the public glare as Harvey has been exempt leaving me to believe that she is doing it to spite PA. I think she is petrified on seeing the kids in the papers with PA and Elen. Baring in mind it was quite ok for her to be photographed playing happy familes in the park with the kids and AR last year, the same rule does not apply to him.

    If she genuinely cared about the childrens feelings now they are getting older and are becoming aware of this publicity, maybe she should reign in her outrageous daily publicity drive. These recent weeks have not done her any favours.

    I can't see how after 5 years, she decided it's now time to shield Junior, everyone knows who he is, the children at school will comment about both his parents. Something about this isn't right...I suppose we will have to wait and see.


    I think it's her excluding Harvey from the ban that makes her actions so transparent. Pete had already been forced to remove Harvey from his shows, this way she gets to hurt Pete whilst still enjoying the benefits of playing 'mum' for the publicity.
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    WAKEYLASS wrote: »
    I don't know what they are thinking of....maybe CP and PA are doing it to prove a point to KP that she will not dictate to them what PA does with his kids when they are with him. If that's the case, then yet again, they are using the children as pawns in their stupid little tit for tat games.

    I suspect that this is exactly what has happened.

    And this guy is supposed to be father of the year? Pffft.
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    pinknico wrote: »
    I would rather see the children making cakes than see Jordan looking a trollop in a dress and seeing her with yet ANOTHER man.
    I'd say she was more of a PR disaster.

    Yes, she's a PR disaster. But that doesn't make his behaviour okay.

    They're both horrible people imo.
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    But what behaviour are you talking about? Its another posters opinion it's tit for tat.

    He does a reality show, his children are in his life, they will feature a little bit in the show as he is their dad. I don't think he is doing it because she says he can't. It's what they have both been doing for a long time.

    If Kate is serious about this why wont she go to lawyers and get heavy handed like Frank?


    For as many people who think that the children should not be used there are probably many more who don't mind .

    Junior and Princess will be able to articulate their feelings about it all , Harvey wont but will be used anyway.
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    pinknico wrote: »
    But what behaviour are you talking about? Its another posters opinion it's tit for tat.

    He does a reality show, his children are in his life, they will feature a little bit in the show as he is their dad. I don't think he is doing it because she says he can't. It's what they have both been doing for a long time.

    If Kate is serious about this why wont she go to lawyers and get heavy handed like Frank?


    For as many people who think that the children should not be used there are probably many more who don't mind .

    Junior and Princess will be able to articulate their feelings about it all , Harvey wont but will be used anyway.

    I agree with you , the kids weren`t heavily featured on his last show , they were shown more in some episodes than others , until the show airs then we`ll not know how much the of the cupcake thing will be shown .

    it is nice to see the kids doing this kind of thing though , rather that than being kept at a beauty salon for hours or trailed round shops , where`s the fun in that for them ?
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    momma11 wrote: »
    I agree with you , the kids weren`t heavily featured on his last show , they were shown more in some episodes than others , until the show airs then we`ll not know how much the of the cupcake thing will be shown .

    it is nice to see the kids doing this kind of thing though , rather that than being kept at a beauty salon for hours or trailed round shops , where`s the fun in that for them ?

    I agree with this, I saw the last three shows of Pete's series and the children hardly featured - this will probably only take up a couple of minutes screen time if that.
    Obviously Pete doesn't feel the time to stop filming has come yet. He has so much going on right now, it isn't as though he needs them to fill the time. The camera thing something I do not quite understand and I wouldn't expose my children to, but Pete and Katie have been doing it with their children all their lives. Katie has now given a completely different reason from her original one for wanting to stop and I do not understand her logic when it comes to Harvey.
    However, it seems Pete does not agree with her and Katie really feels strongly about it, then there are better ways she can go about preventing Pete from filming the children than in the press. She should modify her behaviour too though as that is probably far more damaging than any camera is

    Anyway, talking of cupcakes, a rather bizarre story of cupcake rage in today's Daily Mirror:
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/2011/03/03/crazed-mum-smashes-up-bakery-after-cakes-sell-out-115875-22962057/
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    Lovely thing for kids to do with their father, such a shame they can’t do it without being filmed.

    Always the same photographer who just happens to pap them too......he is a lucky boy/girl always being in the right place at the right time.
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    Lovely thing for kids to do with their father, such a shame they can’t do it without being filmed.

    Always the same photographer who just happens to pap them too......he is a lucky boy/girl always being in the right place at the right time.


    How do you know its the same photographer, if you dont even know whether they are male or female :confused::D
  • TissyTissy Posts: 45,748
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    Lovely thing for kids to do with their father, such a shame they can’t do it without being filmed.

    Always the same photographer who just happens to pap them too......he is a lucky boy/girl always being in the right place at the right time.

    Isn`t it the crew who film his show. Pretty obvious it would be the same photographer in that case surely?
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    bloozy wrote: »
    I think it's her excluding Harvey from the ban that makes her actions so transparent. Pete had already been forced to remove Harvey from his shows, this way she gets to hurt Pete whilst still enjoying the benefits of playing 'mum' for the publicity.

    Agree :) Perhaps PA thinks this too ?

    Wonder if the kids will appear in her block buster movie :)
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    sidsgirl wrote: »
    How do you know its the same photographer, if you dont even know whether they are male or female :confused::D

    MATRIX always there, never anyone else.
    Tissy wrote: »
    Isn`t it the crew who film his show. Pretty obvious it would be the same photographer in that case surely?

    Yes probably but I'm talking about the pap taking pictures of the family scene including the camera person.
  • Daisy BennybootsDaisy Bennyboots Posts: 18,375
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    Isn't it obvious? Anyone who watched Peter's last series will be aware that Pete and Claire used the children to portray Katie in a bad light. This is a very damaging situation to put the children in, they're effectively being forced to make their mum look bad for the sake of Pete's TV show and carefully crafted St Pete image.Whatever you think of Katie Price, that a terrible situation to put the kids in, very damaging - children feel terribly pulled apart and guilt-ridden by divorce as it is.They live in fear of upsetting either parent..and yet Pete is actively encouraging this on camera? Hello Dad Of The Year!!! :rolleyes: I think Katie is trying to stop Pete putting the kids in that position by stopping them being filmed in their day-to-day lives and quite frankly, any caring mother would do the same.

    So I don't think th filming ban is because they're becoming precocious at school, I think it's to stop Pete putting the kids in the impossible and damaging position of making the mummy they love look like the sporn of the devil all for the ego-driven razamatazz of of daddy's TV show. It hasn't really worked because Pete has not stopping filming them.

    Harvey's out of the loop and not easy to edit/control/make Katie look bad ..he's useless to CAN so I can see why there's no filming ban on him.
  • lexi22lexi22 Posts: 16,394
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    WAKEYLASS wrote: »
    I don't know what they are thinking of....maybe CP and PA are doing it to prove a point to KP that she will not dictate to them what PA does with his kids when they are with him. If that's the case, then yet again, they are using the children as pawns in their stupid little tit for tat games.

    ^^ This.
  • WAKEYLASSWAKEYLASS Posts: 6,085
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    Isn't it obvious? Anyone who watched Peter's last series will be aware that Pete and Claire used the children to portray Katie in a bad light. This is a very damaging situation to put the children in, they're effectively being forced to make their mum look bad for the sake of Pete's TV show and carefully crafted St Pete image.Whatever you think of Katie Price, that a terrible situation to put the kids in, very damaging - children feel terribly pulled apart and guilt-ridden by divorce as it is.They live in fear of upsetting either parent..and yet Pete is actively encouraging this on camera? Hello Dad Of The Year!!! :rolleyes: I think Katie is trying to stop Pete putting the kids in that position by stopping them being filmed in their day-to-day lives and quite frankly, any caring mother would do the same.
    So I don't think th filming ban is because they're becoming precocious at school, I think it's to stop Pete putting the kids in the impossible and damaging position of making the mummy they love look like the sporn of the devil all for the ego-driven razamatazz of of daddy's TV show. It hasn't really worked because Pete has not stopping filming them.

    Harvey's out of the loop and not easy to edit/control and not Pete's kid..he's useless to CAN so I can see why there's no filming ban on him.

    If the younger two have a filming ban, why not Harvey? Surely she cares for him too? If she was so bothered about how all this is going to affect the children, why not reign in some of the outrageous behaviour we have seen recently from her. Tbh, I'd rather be filmed for my dads show than get teased at school by my classmates who have seen in the papers what my mother got up to in LA.

    How embarrassing for them!
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    Isn't it obvious? Anyone who watched Peter's last series will be aware that Pete and Claire used the children to portray Katie in a bad light. This is a very damaging situation to put the children in, they're effectively being forced to make their mum look bad for the sake of Pete's TV show and carefully crafted St Pete image.Whatever you think of Katie Price, that a terrible situation to put the kids in, very damaging - children feel terribly pulled apart and guilt-ridden by divorce as it is.They live in fear of upsetting either parent..and yet Pete is actively encouraging this on camera? Hello Dad Of The Year!!! :rolleyes: I think Katie is trying to stop Pete putting the kids in that position by stopping them being filmed in their day-to-day lives and quite frankly, any caring mother would do the same.

    So I don't think th filming ban is because they're becoming precocious at school, I think it's to stop Pete putting the kids in the impossible and damaging position of making the mummy they love look like the sporn of the devil all for the ego-driven razamatazz of of daddy's TV show. It hasn't really worked because Pete has not stopping filming them.

    Harvey's out of the loop and not easy to edit/control/make Katie look bad ..he's useless to CAN so I can see why there's no filming ban on him.

    All l can say to that is you must have been watching a different programme to me.
  • Daisy BennybootsDaisy Bennyboots Posts: 18,375
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    WAKEYLASS wrote: »
    I don't know what they are thinking of....maybe CP and PA are doing it to prove a point to KP that she will not dictate to them what PA does with his kids when they are with him. If that's the case, then yet again, they are using the children as pawns in their stupid little tit for tat games.

    Agreed. Poor kids.
  • Daisy BennybootsDaisy Bennyboots Posts: 18,375
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    sidsgirl wrote: »
    All l can say to that is you must have been watching a different programme to me.

    Or perhaps you interpet it differently.

    Did you watch the Dubai episode? Thank kind of TV should shouldn't even be broacast - shocking betrail of children, made me feel woefully uncomfortable. I was a neutral in the KP/PA saga up until that point, that episode demostrated clearly what CAN/PA were up to. Disgusting. If it was the othe way round, there would be uproar...probably from all sorts of Fathers 4 Justice type groups.
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    Can he do nothing with his children, without turning it into a money making exercise:rolleyes: Another trip out in January to Brighton, was also filmed for the series and he is not going to stop using his children. If Frank Lampard can stop the use of his children, I dont understand why she isnt doing something legally about this.

    Neither parent can prevent pap shots of their children and has every right to take her child overseas, if she chooses. Filming and exploiting your children, is another matter.
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    Or perhaps you interpet it differently.

    Did you watch the Dubai episode? Thank kind of TV should shouldn't even be broacast - shocking betrail of children, made me feel woefully uncomfortable. I was a neutral in the KP/PA saga up until that point, that episode demostrated clearly what CAN/PA were up to. Disgusting. If it was the othe way round, there would be uproar...probably from all sorts of Fathers 4 Justice type groups.

    I didn't see the Dubai episode, what happened?
  • i4ui4u Posts: 54,942
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    ....probably from all sorts of Fathers 4 Justice type groups.

    Which neatly brings us to our next item on the One Show....
    A council has confiscated breast milk ice cream from a Covent Garden parlour amid concerns it could be unfit for human consumption.

    Founder Matt O'Connor, 44, today said he had taken "every possible precaution" over the recipe.....

    Mr O'Connor, who previously led direct action group Fathers 4 Justice, said: "Our donor was screened at a leading medical clinic....

    I'm surprised she hasn't jumped at the chance to make a charitable donation. :)
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