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Ricky Gervais new comedy- Derek

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    Shady_Pines1Shady_Pines1 Posts: 1,608
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    I enjoyed The Office and Extras but I think Derek is awful. Ricky Gervais is a poor actor who is only watchable when he's playing a version of himself (David Brent and Andy Millman). Whenever he tries to play someone very removed from his own persona, he struggles. His portrayal of "Derek" is like a kid in a playground mimicking a person with learning difficulties and it's actually borderline offensive.

    A good friend of mine worked with him on the Muppet Movie and says he's an arrogant knob who was universally disliked by cast and crew, I've no reason to disbelieve him.
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    MoleskinMoleskin Posts: 3,098
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    Sorry but they are completely wrong. And so are you.

    In your opinion.
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    holly berryholly berry Posts: 14,287
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    I think Derek is better than The Office and Extras because, occasional lapses into sentimentality apart, it holds a mirror up to life in care homes and the awkwardness of relationships without being arch. He has had to make a number of compromises in his portrayal of Derek but overall it pays off.
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    roger_50roger_50 Posts: 6,932
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    I think Derek is his best work outside of the Office (which is one of the greatest TV achievements of all time IMO). Extras felt rather ill-focused at times and often was just a series of funny scenarios linked together with some filler inbetween.

    Derek has real depth to it. Quite brave of Gervais to actually go down that path actually.
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    cris182cris182 Posts: 9,595
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    I'm sort of looking forward to this. The first series had a lot of good elements, but also many that I found fault with.

    I think this has been the weakest series that Ricky Gervais has done - he seems to have lost the subtle touch he brilliantly displayed in both The Office and Extras. Derek, in comparison, was about as unsubtle as comedy/pathos could get.

    I'll give the first episode a go to see whether it's improved or not.

    Maybe that something lost is Steve Merchant, He could be the writer of the subtleness in the scripts.
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    MoleskinMoleskin Posts: 3,098
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    I think it's more to do with the time he's spent in the U.S. as Derek has that mawkish sentimentality common to their sitcoms but rare over here.
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    The WulfrunianThe Wulfrunian Posts: 1,312
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    A good friend of mine worked with him on the Muppet Movie and says he's an arrogant knob who was universally disliked by cast and crew, I've no reason to disbelieve him.

    I can't stand the "my friend" stories when that's clearly all they are, stories.
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    drillbitdrillbit Posts: 1,687
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    Gervais is an enigma to me, his stand up routine can be cruel & nasty, so I don't know if he's being sincere about his portrayal of Derek or is it one big piss take on special needs people?

    watch this does the autograph hunter remind you of anyone??
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    degsyhufcdegsyhufc Posts: 59,251
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    drillbit wrote: »
    Gervais is an enigma to me, his stand up routine can be cruel & nasty, so I don't know if he's being sincere about his portrayal of Derek or is it one big piss take on special needs people?

    watch this does the autograph hunter remind you of anyone??
    There's been 60 pages of this throughout the first series :D
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    Shady_Pines1Shady_Pines1 Posts: 1,608
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    I can't stand the "my friend" stories when that's clearly all they are, stories.

    Sigh, does it not occur to you that people who work in the entertainment industry have a social life?

    Personally I can't stand people who cannot comprehend that some people live different kinds of lives to them and seem to assume that everyone is "lying" because they're not a sad, friendless article like you.
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    The WulfrunianThe Wulfrunian Posts: 1,312
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    drillbit wrote: »
    Gervais is an enigma to me, his stand up routine can be cruel & nasty, so I don't know if he's being sincere about his portrayal of Derek or is it one big piss take on special needs people?

    watch this does the autograph hunter remind you of anyone??

    He's cruel and nasty if you take everything literally. My own sense of humour is completely separate to my own moral compass, but I'll cross the line to get a laugh and couldn't give a shiny shite what certain people think. RG does exactly the same to a worldwide audience. Who doesn't get a kick out of annoying folks with a pole up their arse?

    Derek for me was and is a feel good programme. Choose to be cynical if you want, your loss.
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    The WulfrunianThe Wulfrunian Posts: 1,312
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    Sigh, does it not occur to you that people who work in the entertainment industry have a social life?

    Personally I can't stand people who cannot comprehend that some people live different kinds of lives to them and seem to assume that everyone is "lying" because they're not a sad, friendless article like you.

    Insert devastated face here
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 46
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    Returns tonight at 10.
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    ocavocav Posts: 2,341
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    Does Channel 4 work with Netflix on this? Netflix seem to brand it up as a "Netflix Original"
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2
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    ocav wrote: »
    Does Channel 4 work with Netflix on this? Netflix seem to brand it up as a "Netflix Original"
    As far as I understood Channel 4 commissioned the series, but they had a deal for it to premiere on Netflix in the US?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 517
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    On soon....
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    Fairyprincess0Fairyprincess0 Posts: 30,085
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    Evening. Bring on the haters. You'd think they wouldn't waste their time watching shows they don't like.....

    Takes all sorts, I suppose......
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    Fairyprincess0Fairyprincess0 Posts: 30,085
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    It's Karl's last episode tonight...... :(
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 517
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    A minute in and already again with the constant maudlin piano music ^_^
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    Sez_babeSez_babe Posts: 133,998
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    I like that Vicky is permanent now
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    Ollie_h19Ollie_h19 Posts: 8,548
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    surfking wrote: »
    A minute in and already again with the constant maudlin piano music ^_^

    As would be used in such a documentary...
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    albion-mad-nickalbion-mad-nick Posts: 4,080
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    Kev in the background haha
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    Ollie_h19Ollie_h19 Posts: 8,548
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    Who else is on Twitter right now?

    That tweet was just sent when Vicky did it on TV. Very good.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 517
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    Ollie_h19 wrote: »
    As would be used in such a documentary...
    Even real documentaries in a similar vein don't lay it on that thick.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 5
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    I find Derek depressing rather than funny. Ricky Gervais doesn't seem able to create a character separate from his others.
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