According to the BBC this morning, Three will launch 4g in London, Birmingham and Manchester in December. By the of 2014 Three will cover 50 cities.
Is there any definition of 'London' ie what are the boundaries? Also suppose I am in a 4G area and then I travel to a non-4G area will my phone revert to the 3G network?
Was reading up on the news of three's 4G launch, according to tech crunch three will be using the 800mhz spectrum..
"Three says that it will roll out the 4G capability as an over-the-air update. Its flavor of LTE will work on the 800MHz band, capacity it picked up in a round of spectrum auctions in March of this year for £225 million"
In this article there is no reference to the 1800mhz spectrum.. Anyone care to explain?
Is there any definition of 'London' ie what are the boundaries? Also suppose I am in a 4G area and then I travel to a non-4G area will my phone revert to the 3G network?
Thanks...
Usually greater London as a whole with patchy coverage until they fill in the gaps, so as far North as Hatfield/Welwyn as Far East as Upminster and as far west as Slough and as far South as Croydon/Gatwick. This is a guess of course
Was reading up on the news of three's 4G launch, according to tech crunch three will be using the 800mhz spectrum..
"Three says that it will roll out the 4G capability as an over-the-air update. Its flavor of LTE will work on the 800MHz band, capacity it picked up in a round of spectrum auctions in March of this year for £225 million"
In this article there is no reference to the 1800mhz spectrum.. Anyone care to explain?
It will almost defiantly be 1800mhz the spectrum band 800mhz is two small for a sole use rollout. EE will release 2x10mhz this September to Three. They only have 2x5mhz of 800mhz the 800 band will probably be used later to beef up 4g with what they call carrier aggregation this is where two frequencies work together to increase capacity and bandwidth!
It will almost defiantly be 1800mhz the spectrum band 800mhz is two small for a sole use rollout. EE will release 2x10mhz this September to Three. They only have 2x5mhz of 800mhz the 800 band will probably be used later to beef up 4g with what they call carrier aggregation this is where two frequencies work together to increase capacity and bandwidth!
Edit... EE will then release another 2x5mhz of 1800 to Three is 2015.
Usually greater London as a whole with patchy coverage until they fill in the gaps, so as far North as Hatfield/Welwyn as Far East as Upminster and as far west as Slough and as far South as Croydon/Gatwick. This is a guess of course
I doubt it will reach Hatfield and Welwyn. Hatfield only got 4G from EE at launch because EE's head office is there. Welwyn Garden City only got 4G from EE last month.
Hopefully we will be in the ones rolled out next year though.
I doubt it will reach Hatfield and Welwyn. Hatfield only got 4G from EE at launch because EE's head office is there. Welwyn Garden City only got 4G from EE last month.
Hopefully we will be in the ones rolled out next year though.
So it's a network issue and not a hardware related issue?
So if I took a contract on three for iPhone (which was purchased from voda) then it will work?
Yes it would work. The reason the iPhone 5 only works on EE's and three's 4G is because the iPhone 5 only supports 4G at the 1800Mhz spectrum. And the only networks in the uk that have access to this spectrum is EE and Three. When the iPhone 5s or 6 comes out. It will most likely support the 800mhz and 2600mhz spectrum which O2 and Vodafone are using to build their 4G networks.
So if you took out a contract on three and put the sim into your iPhone 5 all would work. Both 3G and 4G
Yes it would work. The reason the iPhone 5 only works on EE's and three's 4G is because the iPhone 5 only supports 4G at the 1800Mhz spectrum. And the only networks in the uk that have access to this spectrum is EE and Three. When the iPhone 5s or 6 comes out. It will most likely support the 800mhz and 2600mhz spectrum which O2 and Vodafone are using to build their 4G networks.
So if you took out a contract on three and put the sim into your iPhone 5 all would work. Both 3G and 4G
Does anyone know if the iPhone 5 (vodafone and unlocked) will work with three 4G?
I heard the iPhone 5 from vodafone was not 4G ready.
Yes the iphone 5 will 110% work on Three's 3G and new 4G network as all UK operators use 2100mhz for 3G and Three have the same 4G frequency as EE (1800mhz).
800 would require new antennas in addition to the ones they already have as part of MBNL. Even EE is only just starting to look at the 800 roll out (usually means half a year or more till it actually happens.)
Three will not launch near to Vodafone's date.
800mhz transmissions travel further, 3 have bought part of this as we know. the higher frequencies will be used for built up locations more so, for keeping up with capacity, where as 800mhz will be used for more out of the cities etc for better coverage for more remote areas!
although 800mhz is preferable as it has better indoor coverage, hence why it was taken from the end part of our old analogue tv band.
800mhz transmissions travel further, 3 have bought part of this as we know. the higher frequencies will be used for built up locations more so, for keeping up with capacity, where as 800mhz will be used for more out of the cities etc for better coverage for more remote areas! although 800mhz is preferable as it has better indoor coverage, hence why it was taken from the end part of our old analogue tv band.
That said my TV won’t work without an aerial on the roof.:D
Yes the iphone 5 will 110% work on Three's 3G and new 4G network as all UK operators use 2100mhz for 3G and Three have the same 4G frequency as EE (1800mhz).
That said my TV won’t work without an aerial on the roof.:D
That is due to fact tv mast are lot further apart then cell towers are. Where I live I can't get a reliable signal from mast so I have to use sky to get tv
That is due to fact tv mast are lot further apart then cell towers are. Where I live I can't get a reliable signal from mast so I have to use sky to get tv
Around my area in the Brecon Beacons you will find quite few of the masts are shared between all the mobile networks and also TV.
My local mast is one of these, I have no idea how 800mhz when launched is going to effect freeview with the mobile network antennas and TV antennas being around 4 meters apart.
Around my area in the Brecon Beacons you will find quite few of the masts are shared between all the mobile networks and also TV.
My local mast is one of these, I have no idea how 800mhz when launched is going to effect freeview with the mobile network antennas and TV antennas being around 4 meters apart.
Interesting not trying sound terrible here but I can see eventually free view getting removed, and simply everyone moving to free sat, not just for the hd channels but because even now free view channels are disappearing. And it takes up valuable high range and indoor penetration spectrum. We all know it is pretty much a certainty that 700mhz will be used for mobile networks which is going mean moving freeview to 600mhz. Hope it doesn't effect you to much with all the networks so close together but you must get a decent range out of that mast or at least will when it starts using 800mhz.
Interesting not trying sound terrible here but I can see eventually free view getting removed, and simply everyone moving to free sat, not just for the hd channels but because even now free view channels are disappearing. And it takes up valuable high range and indoor penetration spectrum. We all know it is pretty much a certainty that 700mhz will be used for mobile networks which is going mean moving freeview to 600mhz. Hope it doesn't effect you to much with all the networks so close together but you must get a decent range out of that mast.
Yes I agree with you here, I already use Freesat anyway as its a much better channel selection in this area.
That mast is 1 mile away from the town centre and you only get 1 bar of 3G there (I think the MBNL antenna isn't pointing towards the town, its more of a blanket coverage than anything but still good speeds and usable) 2G coverage from the mast is very good though. not very often do you find a 2G blackspot around this area. you would have thought that there would be some interference from them all so close but there doesn't not seem to be.
Yes I agree with you here, I already use Freesat anyway as its a much better channel selection in this area.
That mast is 1 mile away from the town centre and you only get 1 bar of 3G there (I think the MBNL antenna isn't pointing towards the town, its more of a blanket coverage than anything but still good speeds and usable) 2G coverage from the mast is very good though. not very often do you find a 2G blackspot around this area. you would have thought that there would be some interference from them all so close but there doesn't not seem to be.
I can imagine it is pretty solid Signal. I think it all but been confirmed officially that all surviving rural masts [EE/Three] are going to have 800mhz eventually. I think if the networks deliver by end of 2015 if people have a good device signal problems will be a thing of the past.
I was shocked recently that Verizon in America have managed 95% lte coverage I think that is quite a stunning amount and they planning to continue expanding. It funny in America around ten years back I used to have to drive about a mile to find a 2g signal.
I can imagine it is pretty solid Signal. I think it all but been confirmed officially that all surviving rural masts [EE/Three] are going to have 800mhz eventually. I think if the networks deliver by end of 2015 if people have a good device signal problems will be a thing of the past.
I was shocked recently that Verizon in America have managed 95% lte coverage I think that is quite a stunning amount and they planning to continue expanding. It funny in America around ten years back I used to have to drive about a mile to find a 2g signal.
Things have come on a long way in recent years and can only get better
Things have come on a long way in recent years and can only get better
Yeah I think it is certainly getting to the point specially when 800mhz is rolled out that for most people the only reason they will have a landline is for home broadband. As BT for some odd reason require you to have one not sure how long that will keep up as it can't for to much longer as less and less people I know use. Lets be honest standard line rental charges are around 15 pounds that needs to go down if they hope to compete with mobiles. Take for example three if you will going on 12 month contract like a home phone you get 2000 minutes and 5000 texts for exact same price as you would for a standard phone included not extra. For a business I can see advantage in landlines but for personal use I really don't see how they are good value for money.
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Was reading up on the news of three's 4G launch, according to tech crunch three will be using the 800mhz spectrum..
"Three says that it will roll out the 4G capability as an over-the-air update. Its flavor of LTE will work on the 800MHz band, capacity it picked up in a round of spectrum auctions in March of this year for £225 million"
In this article there is no reference to the 1800mhz spectrum.. Anyone care to explain?
Article : http://m.techcrunch.com/2013/08/28/three-becomes-the-fourth-carrier-to-throw-its-hat-into-the-lte-ring-will-offer-price-busting-4g-on-3g-tariffs-starting-december/
Usually greater London as a whole with patchy coverage until they fill in the gaps, so as far North as Hatfield/Welwyn as Far East as Upminster and as far west as Slough and as far South as Croydon/Gatwick. This is a guess of course
It will almost defiantly be 1800mhz the spectrum band 800mhz is two small for a sole use rollout. EE will release 2x10mhz this September to Three. They only have 2x5mhz of 800mhz the 800 band will probably be used later to beef up 4g with what they call carrier aggregation this is where two frequencies work together to increase capacity and bandwidth!
Edit... EE will then release another 2x5mhz of 1800 to Three is 2015.
I doubt it will reach Hatfield and Welwyn. Hatfield only got 4G from EE at launch because EE's head office is there. Welwyn Garden City only got 4G from EE last month.
Hopefully we will be in the ones rolled out next year though.
Argh yes of course. Luton then :-)
I heard the iPhone 5 from vodafone was not 4G ready.
The iPhone 5 will work on three and EE 4G networks only
So yes
So it's a network issue and not a hardware related issue?
So if I took a contract on three for iPhone (which was purchased from voda) then it will work?
Yes it would work. The reason the iPhone 5 only works on EE's and three's 4G is because the iPhone 5 only supports 4G at the 1800Mhz spectrum. And the only networks in the uk that have access to this spectrum is EE and Three. When the iPhone 5s or 6 comes out. It will most likely support the 800mhz and 2600mhz spectrum which O2 and Vodafone are using to build their 4G networks.
So if you took out a contract on three and put the sim into your iPhone 5 all would work. Both 3G and 4G
Thanks. I think I'll order a SIMO with Three.
Yes the iphone 5 will 110% work on Three's 3G and new 4G network as all UK operators use 2100mhz for 3G and Three have the same 4G frequency as EE (1800mhz).
800mhz transmissions travel further, 3 have bought part of this as we know. the higher frequencies will be used for built up locations more so, for keeping up with capacity, where as 800mhz will be used for more out of the cities etc for better coverage for more remote areas!
although 800mhz is preferable as it has better indoor coverage, hence why it was taken from the end part of our old analogue tv band.
That said my TV won’t work without an aerial on the roof.:D
Thanks.
That is due to fact tv mast are lot further apart then cell towers are. Where I live I can't get a reliable signal from mast so I have to use sky to get tv
Around my area in the Brecon Beacons you will find quite few of the masts are shared between all the mobile networks and also TV.
My local mast is one of these, I have no idea how 800mhz when launched is going to effect freeview with the mobile network antennas and TV antennas being around 4 meters apart.
My local mast: http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/gallerypage.php?txid=499&pageid=1493
Interesting not trying sound terrible here but I can see eventually free view getting removed, and simply everyone moving to free sat, not just for the hd channels but because even now free view channels are disappearing. And it takes up valuable high range and indoor penetration spectrum. We all know it is pretty much a certainty that 700mhz will be used for mobile networks which is going mean moving freeview to 600mhz. Hope it doesn't effect you to much with all the networks so close together but you must get a decent range out of that mast or at least will when it starts using 800mhz.
Yes I agree with you here, I already use Freesat anyway as its a much better channel selection in this area.
That mast is 1 mile away from the town centre and you only get 1 bar of 3G there (I think the MBNL antenna isn't pointing towards the town, its more of a blanket coverage than anything but still good speeds and usable) 2G coverage from the mast is very good though. not very often do you find a 2G blackspot around this area. you would have thought that there would be some interference from them all so close but there doesn't not seem to be.
I can imagine it is pretty solid Signal. I think it all but been confirmed officially that all surviving rural masts [EE/Three] are going to have 800mhz eventually. I think if the networks deliver by end of 2015 if people have a good device signal problems will be a thing of the past.
I was shocked recently that Verizon in America have managed 95% lte coverage I think that is quite a stunning amount and they planning to continue expanding. It funny in America around ten years back I used to have to drive about a mile to find a 2g signal.
Things have come on a long way in recent years and can only get better
Yeah I think it is certainly getting to the point specially when 800mhz is rolled out that for most people the only reason they will have a landline is for home broadband. As BT for some odd reason require you to have one not sure how long that will keep up as it can't for to much longer as less and less people I know use. Lets be honest standard line rental charges are around 15 pounds that needs to go down if they hope to compete with mobiles. Take for example three if you will going on 12 month contract like a home phone you get 2000 minutes and 5000 texts for exact same price as you would for a standard phone included not extra. For a business I can see advantage in landlines but for personal use I really don't see how they are good value for money.
It'll be like cellular porn! Hahahahahaha