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Alison/ Lisa whats that all about?

belmontbabebelmontbabe Posts: 134
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Are they great friends? Did they work together?

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    nataliannatalian Posts: 4,295
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    belmontbabe wrote: »
    Are they great friends? Did they work together?

    No, they are both overweight and Strictly contestants.
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    SeasideLadySeasideLady Posts: 20,775
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    Two fat lassies together giving each other moral support ?
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    j4Rosej4Rose Posts: 5,482
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    They are both very fat and massively overscored on Strictly? Not the nicest thing to say, but true.
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    Walter NeffWalter Neff Posts: 9,201
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    j4Rose wrote: »
    They are both very fat and massively overscored on Strictly? Not the nicest thing to say, but true.

    True, but I found Lisa very likeable, while I find the other one totally unlikeable. :(
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    dippydancingdippydancing Posts: 9,428
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    I love Alison, but it was pretty patronising putting them together, how ever much they may have privately bonded over shared issues (apparently Alison learnt some useful stuff about dance shoes from her). It was kind of reductive thinking putting them in a VT together.
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    bigbro24bigbro24 Posts: 11,987
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    Advert for Bingo...88
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 13,678
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    Yeah, the common (implied, yet unspoken) link is their weight, and unfortunately the show itself invited LR comparisons from week 1.
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    StigOfTheKrumpStigOfTheKrump Posts: 36,363
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    The thing is, they wouldn't bring in, say, Audley Harrison to give tips for Simon to dance well as a black man, or Denise Van Outen for Pixie as a blonde ringah, but because they're both energetic and fat (sorry, 'bubbly'), that's somehow appropriate to that week's training. They needed ideas for a VT and Lisa had a gap in her diary, that's all.
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    CaroUKCaroUK Posts: 6,354
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    Walter Neff wrote: »
    True, but I found Lisa very likeable, while I find the other one totally unlikeable. :(

    Im the opposite - I like Alison - and do not like Lisa at all.
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    Jan2555*GG*Jan2555*GG* Posts: 11,064
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    That VT made me very cross. So because Alison is overweight the only person she can relate to or have relate to her is another overweight girl. It was very patronising
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    sueh21sueh21 Posts: 2,565
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    Isn't it time Lisa moved on from the show and got an acting job or is she at a loose end until panto season? I really hope she is not presenting the live shows as I would quit like to go this year:(
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    CaminoCamino Posts: 13,029
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    fatism by the BBC shocking!
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    Fatima502Fatima502 Posts: 6,120
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    Alison has basically given up on ballroom dances because, by her own admission, of her size. That's disappointing and I wonder if she really has been putting much work in.
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    fredsterfredster Posts: 31,802
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    j4Rose wrote: »
    They are both very fat and massively overscored on Strictly? Not the nicest thing to say, but true.

    I think Alison is getting bigger.
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    via_487via_487 Posts: 1,244
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    Because (for some strange reason) Lisa did well, they want to give Alison a 'Lisa boost'.
    Perhaps she's not as much the peoples' favourite as they thought she would be?

    I actually like Alison okay, but she isn't doing well.
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    ElanElan Posts: 428
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    It was odd wasn't it, and when Alison said 'have you got your shoes?', 'yes' - then dancing in outdoor boots. Bizarre.
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    olivejolivej Posts: 14,696
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    its all about the BBC still trying to force Lisa Bloody Riley down our throats any way they can!
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    IvanIVIvanIV Posts: 30,310
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    Lisa wanted to look thin for a change.
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    broadshoulderbroadshoulder Posts: 18,758
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    New cliche

    Comedy fat birds
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    penelopesimpsonpenelopesimpson Posts: 14,909
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    fredster wrote: »
    I think Alison is getting bigger.

    You know what, I thought that too. She is absolutely huge and Lisa looked quite trim beside her.
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    tortoisepersontortoiseperson Posts: 3,403
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    I would have expected Alison to have dropped a significant chunk of weight by now. Lisa did - and last week Tim said he had lost 2 stone during his time on Strickly. It's a truism that weight is lost faster by people who have more to lose and Tim wasn't what you'd call porky even at the start.
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    brumiladbrumilad Posts: 1,467
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    StigOfTheKrump wrote: »
    The thing is, they wouldn't bring in, say, Audley Harrison to give tips for Simon to dance well as a black man, or Denise Van Outen for Pixie as a blonde ringah, but because they're both energetic and fat (sorry, 'bubbly'), that's somehow appropriate to that week's training. They needed ideas for a VT and Lisa had a gap in her diary, that's all.
    Well there's a bit of a difference between colour of skin and hair and being overweight when it comes to dancing.

    The fact is being big is a huge physical limitation when being taught to dance on a competitive level. Being blonde or black isn't.

    They're both big girls fully aware if the challenge their size brings (as much as certain people like to act like its no biggie). Which is why she no doubt why Lisa wants to show a bit of support.
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    StigOfTheKrumpStigOfTheKrump Posts: 36,363
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    brumilad wrote: »
    Well there's a bit of a difference between colour of skin and hair and being overweight when it comes to dancing.

    The fact is being big is a huge physical limitation when being taught to dance on a competitive level. Being blonde or black isn't.

    But it made no difference to how Alison danced on the night - if they'd wanted to make a VT about learning to be better at the dances taking her size into consideration, they'd a) have done it earlier in the series and b) gone to a more credible source than Lisa Riley. It was hardly as if Alison improved on previous weeks, so it didn't really serve any point (nor would Audley giving tips to Simon, etc etc).
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    Linda_DeanLinda_Dean Posts: 748
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    Lisa was there to make the points Alison can't really make directly. 1) Alison is having some issues unique to her because she is a big lady that can dance fairly well (no she's not technically the best of this years bunch, but she does a respectable job, and in terms of performance and musicality, she is one of the best. 2) Most importantly, when you are a bigger dancer you HAVE to exaggerate your lines, or it looks as if you are not doing them... even though you are. You have to in fact, work harder than slimmer dancers. That was the key point.

    There was nothing subtle, everything was explicit or heavily implied. That said, I felt it did come off as patronising.
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    Mrs SprattMrs Spratt Posts: 4,072
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    I like the fact that Alison's been much more upfront about issues caused by her weight than previous "larger than life" - i.e. fat - contestants, but she is VERY large and that really does limit what she can do. I think it would have been better to get in the Roly Poleys (sp) if they're still going, they were/are a troupe of overweight dancers who could have given proper technique tips.
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