Not good news but sounds like its been happening at non-league level so maybe its a positive this match fixing ring has been caught before reaching higher leagues..
This has been going on for decades, a close friend of mine was a league player back in the 60's
He was offered the princely sum of £25 to have a " bad day " by an international player.
I suspect the bribe was more down to finishing league positions rather than monetary gain.
Have to say I was shocked when he told me as I never realised how widespread it was or someone of the ilk of the player involved.
Obviously I have kept details down to a bare minimum, it would not take that much info to find out who it was.
I think we were involved in one of them, in the early 1900's (with I think Sheff Wednesday, with players receiving lifetime bans from the game), so I hope that if found guilty, the people involved here, receive the same punishment.
That reminded me That I've read about a Sheffield Wednesday FA Cup tie at around that time that ended up being played about 4 times for various reasons (which may or may not be the same thing you're talking about).
This has been going on for decades, a close friend of mine was a league player back in the 60's
He was offered the princely sum of £25 to have a " bad day " by an international player.
I suspect the bribe was more down to finishing league positions rather than monetary gain.
Have to say I was shocked when he told me as I never realised how widespread it was or someone of the ilk of the player involved.
Obviously I have kept details down to a bare minimum, it would not take that much info to find out who it was.
Not that there's much point now 50 years after the fact, but you could still report it to the FA.
It seems that the attempted fixing isn't for overall results but the number of goals in a match, a popular bet on the Asian markets.
What puzzles me though is why hasn't Matt Le Tissier ever been charged? He admitted in his book that him and a few mates tried to win £10,000 during a match between Southampton and Wimbledon. His bet was the timing of the first throw-in but his attempt to kick the ball out of play didn't work.
Attempts like that to make money out of the game must be widespread with all the bets that are available. Le Tissier's bet went down but he went onto that pitch wanting to win the money for him and his mates so why hasn't he ever been charged?
Discussed this on the first part of Sunday Supplement
Some interesting points but a distinct lack of knowledge.
The main consensus seemed to be to ban betting on non league games
They dont seem to realise that the illegal betting markets in Asia wont take any notice of that.
As one of them mentioned, who would have thought that a Captain of a national team (hanse Kronje) would have been involved as he was.
A good idea they mentioned was to have a specialist unit dealing with corruption
Until a Premier League star is caught out, I doubt anything will happen.
Le Tissier admitted to a huge amount of "match fixing" (not actually fixing matches but this term makes no sense anymore) but it wasnt taken seriously at all, all it did was illustrate that the seemingly "chance" markets arent really looked at.
Le Tissier was an honest guy who was nothing more than a bit too honest in his autobiography i have no doubt what he said is the tip of the iceberg.
Le Tissier admitted to a huge amount of "match fixing" (not actually fixing matches but this term makes no sense anymore) but it wasnt taken seriously at all, all it did was illustrate that the seemingly "chance" markets arent really looked at.
Le Tissier was an honest guy who was nothing more than a bit too honest in his autobiography i have no doubt what he said is the tip of the iceberg.
"Spot fixing" is probably a more accurate term.
Regarding actual match fixing, it wasn't for money, but I'm reminded of a world cup (or maybe euros) match where a 0-0 draw meant both teams went through so neither team made much effort to score.
Regarding actual match fixing, it wasn't for money, but I'm reminded of a world cup (or maybe euros) match where a 0-0 draw meant both teams went through so neither team made much effort to score.
The one that really sticks out was in the 1982 World cup.
Last group match Between West Germany & Austria, a 1-0 German win in this game would put both teams through to the latter stages, Algeria had played their final game the day before so both teams knew what result would get them through.
West Germany scored early & the remaining 80 min was a total travesty of " football " if that is what you can call it.
That is why the last matches now are played simultaneously to avoid this ever happening again.
Anyone remember the floodlights going out at the Valley when Charlton were leading Liverpool?
I think when floodlights fail, the bets are void in some Asian markets. Some security guards were later arrested for fitting something to the floodlights.
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I remember him because when he'd served an 8 year ban he came back and played for my team (Bury)
He had been a good player.........about 20 caps for England
He could have been in the World Cup winning team if he hadn't been banned
He was offered the princely sum of £25 to have a " bad day " by an international player.
I suspect the bribe was more down to finishing league positions rather than monetary gain.
Have to say I was shocked when he told me as I never realised how widespread it was or someone of the ilk of the player involved.
Obviously I have kept details down to a bare minimum, it would not take that much info to find out who it was.
I agree. I wouldn't be surprised if it's happened, to some extent, in the PL.
That reminded me That I've read about a Sheffield Wednesday FA Cup tie at around that time that ended up being played about 4 times for various reasons (which may or may not be the same thing you're talking about).
Not that there's much point now 50 years after the fact, but you could still report it to the FA.
What puzzles me though is why hasn't Matt Le Tissier ever been charged? He admitted in his book that him and a few mates tried to win £10,000 during a match between Southampton and Wimbledon. His bet was the timing of the first throw-in but his attempt to kick the ball out of play didn't work.
Attempts like that to make money out of the game must be widespread with all the bets that are available. Le Tissier's bet went down but he went onto that pitch wanting to win the money for him and his mates so why hasn't he ever been charged?
Some interesting points but a distinct lack of knowledge.
The main consensus seemed to be to ban betting on non league games
They dont seem to realise that the illegal betting markets in Asia wont take any notice of that.
As one of them mentioned, who would have thought that a Captain of a national team (hanse Kronje) would have been involved as he was.
A good idea they mentioned was to have a specialist unit dealing with corruption
Until a Premier League star is caught out, I doubt anything will happen.
Le Tissier was an honest guy who was nothing more than a bit too honest in his autobiography i have no doubt what he said is the tip of the iceberg.
"Spot fixing" is probably a more accurate term.
Regarding actual match fixing, it wasn't for money, but I'm reminded of a world cup (or maybe euros) match where a 0-0 draw meant both teams went through so neither team made much effort to score.
The one that really sticks out was in the 1982 World cup.
Last group match Between West Germany & Austria, a 1-0 German win in this game would put both teams through to the latter stages, Algeria had played their final game the day before so both teams knew what result would get them through.
West Germany scored early & the remaining 80 min was a total travesty of " football " if that is what you can call it.
That is why the last matches now are played simultaneously to avoid this ever happening again.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25243531
I think when floodlights fail, the bets are void in some Asian markets. Some security guards were later arrested for fitting something to the floodlights.