Did anyone notice he called his daughter the morning before going to the station because he had something to tell her I wonder what that was?
I think it was to tell her about the incidence in the car. He certainly took the time to investigate his accuser on the web before going to his interview.
You know that she is going to be right about him all along despite all the knockbacks etc etc. It's still well done but it would be interesting and more courageous to explore how traumatised people can sometimes make unfounded allegations as a way of dealing with their own demons.
I like these ITV 'thrillers', they're usually all quite similar and the hooey factor is often quite high but I find they're just the ticket on a Monday evening.
I notice it was filmed in Ireland, recognised Enniskerry as the village.
I'm a gonna go with the daughter killing her mum theory.
She would have had to have rendered her unconscious with the first blow and I can't see a 7 year old having the strength, especially a little girl.
Great programme though and am looking forward to seeing how it all pans out....
I don't think it will turn out that she killed her own mother, that's a bit Nordic Noir for Monday night ITV!
It might be that Harry from Spook's wife (am I right in saying his current wife isn't the mother of his lawyer daughter?) killed the mum after discovering they were having an affair, Harry from Spooks then covered it up. Perhaps. I am generally useless at figuring these things out.
Maybe his first wife died in suspicious circumstances, his daughter did give him a look a few times that made me think her utter faith in him was wavering.
I really enjoyed this, but I think it's too hard to call who it was I want to say it WAS the doctor, but then I keep telling myself that it'll be too obvious and there'll most likely be a twist.
But then again, with A Mother's Son, I thought it was too obvious to be the lad it turned out to be, even though the name of the drama was a dead giveaway
Can't wait until next week. (Her husband is a bit of alright, does anyone else think ;-) )
I really enjoyed this, but I think it's too hard to call who it was I want to say it WAS the doctor, but then I keep telling myself that it'll be too obvious and there'll most likely be a twist.
But then again, with A Mother's Son, I thought it was too obvious to be the lad it turned out to be, even though the name of the drama was a dead giveaway
Can't wait until next week. (Her husband is a bit of alright, does anyone else think ;-) )
The good thing about it so far is that it could have been her father, her, the doctor or his first wife. I doubt that they would introduce a new suspect in the final instalment.
They've also picked a strong set of actors, although I'm biased slightly as I like all of them.
I was going along with this fine until the police detective called her to say they would have the blood test result by the "End of play". First, would a police officer use that language to a victim but much more importantly the phrase, as any follower of cricker knows, is "Close of play"?
My theory is a bit out the box, but bear with me: could Jane have killed her mother?..........
I have a theory that there are two types of flashback : story-telling and character-account. The latter is a visualization of what a character is relating. Because a character can lie, so can the flashback.
The flashback at the start was, if I remember correctly, simply a telling of the story, and hence had to be truthful.
The good thing about it so far is that it could have been her father, her, the doctor or his first wife. I doubt that they would introduce a new suspect in the final instalment................
Why, other than storytelling convention, does it have to be a member of the cast list?
Anyway, you forgot her father's first wife, and the second wives of both the old men.
At the moment a case could be made against any of them. All the writer has to do is pick one of them, and produce a document, or other evidence, to prove it at the last minute.
I was going along with this fine until the police detective called her to say they would have the blood test result by the "End of play". First, would a police officer use that language to a victim but much more importantly the phrase, as any follower of cricker knows, is "Close of play"?
Maybe they don't follow cricket. I have heard the phrase 'end of play' used before, usually in a business context.
the fact that he refused a blood test to begin with would give him time to fix one(if that can be done) Also given the time lapse then a simple swab would not have been enough to provide a good sample! ( maybe)
the fact that he refused a blood test to begin with would give him time to fix one(if that can be done) Also given the time lapse then a simple swab would not have been enough to provide a good sample! ( maybe)
It can be done. I've seen it on Murder Detectives (great show Channel 5 used too show) and I think he was a Doctor aswell!
The person was a man and knew her, he said "hello, Anne" and knew she would be there at that location. The person was also wearing a wedding ring.
I'm going with the Father at the moment, maybe something unsavoury occurred in the marriage and he wanted to get rid of her. Perhaps the father didn't think his daughter would say anything against him after she saw him with the stone in his hadn (say it was him). I mean, the daughter she see the actual killing, or did she just turn round and see her mother lying there dead and then next thing she sees is a man walk past her with a rock in hand. I can't remember if she actually saw it happen, but if it was just the immediate moment after, she could well be confused about it (say it was her dad but she didn't want to believe it).
I'm not sure I'd go with the idea that the daughter did it on her own, and has since created an imaginery man to cover up her own guilt. If she was older, like teenage years, I would think it very possible, but she was very so ickle so could she really have killed her mother, a grown woman, at that age. If the story is a freak story (as in a rare ocurrence that succeeded on this random occasion) then ok maybe, but, I'll still go with the mystery man for now.
The girl who plays the accused man's daughter/lawyer is fit. Anyone know the actress' name?
Her name's been mentioned, but to add, she was also in Silent Witness, one of the more recent series, and in the one off Anne Lister thingy that Maxine Peake was in. She played the character of Anne Lister's lover i think (Lister played by peake).
1) She DOES look right at him and apologise in the car incident.
2) We see the back of the killer's head, darkish hair, balding at the back, looks male, wearing a wedding ring which is clearly visible in the rock-holding hand.
3) When he says "Hello Anne" it does sound a lot like the Oncologist's voice
Another thought for the "jealous Jane killed her mum" theory.
Why is she SO obsessed with having a baby boy at the same age as her mum? Did she kill her brother?
The Mum was pregnant when she died, they were talking about it in the opening scene and the she - as a little girl - was rather miffed to be told that she'd be sharing their special place with the new arrival.
So I don't think she killed her brother as such, but if she killed her pregnant Mum, then yep, she killed the baby too.
The Mum was pregnant when she died, they were talking about it in the opening scene and the she - as a little girl - was rather miffed to be told that she'd be sharing their special place with the new arrival.
So I don't think she killed her brother as such, but if she killed her pregnant Mum, then yep, she killed the baby too.
Sorry, that's what I meant by killing her brother, killing him whilst he was unborn by killing the mum (so both murders are "on her" so to speak)
1) She DOES look right at him and apologise in the car incident.
2) We see the back of the killer's head, darkish hair, balding at the back, looks male, wearing a wedding ring which is clearly visible in the rock-holding hand.
3) When he says "Hello Anne" it does sound a lot like the Oncologist's voice
Option 2 could just be as she remembers the events as opposed to what actually happened. Given her state of mind, she could have created the image and as far as she is now concerned, it is fact.
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I notice it was filmed in Ireland, recognised Enniskerry as the village.
She would have had to have rendered her unconscious with the first blow and I can't see a 7 year old having the strength, especially a little girl.
Great programme though and am looking forward to seeing how it all pans out....
It might be that Harry from Spook's wife (am I right in saying his current wife isn't the mother of his lawyer daughter?) killed the mum after discovering they were having an affair, Harry from Spooks then covered it up. Perhaps. I am generally useless at figuring these things out.
Same here, in fact I don't understand the idea of the daughter killing her mother at all
But then again, with A Mother's Son, I thought it was too obvious to be the lad it turned out to be, even though the name of the drama was a dead giveaway
Can't wait until next week. (Her husband is a bit of alright, does anyone else think ;-) )
Me neither and he is isn't he? :kitty:
They've also picked a strong set of actors, although I'm biased slightly as I like all of them.
I have a theory that there are two types of flashback : story-telling and character-account. The latter is a visualization of what a character is relating. Because a character can lie, so can the flashback.
The flashback at the start was, if I remember correctly, simply a telling of the story, and hence had to be truthful.
He'd have the same DNA, I believe.
Why, other than storytelling convention, does it have to be a member of the cast list?
Anyway, you forgot her father's first wife, and the second wives of both the old men.
At the moment a case could be made against any of them. All the writer has to do is pick one of them, and produce a document, or other evidence, to prove it at the last minute.
Maybe they don't follow cricket. I have heard the phrase 'end of play' used before, usually in a business context.
It can be done. I've seen it on Murder Detectives (great show Channel 5 used too show) and I think he was a Doctor aswell!
I'm going with the Father at the moment, maybe something unsavoury occurred in the marriage and he wanted to get rid of her. Perhaps the father didn't think his daughter would say anything against him after she saw him with the stone in his hadn (say it was him). I mean, the daughter she see the actual killing, or did she just turn round and see her mother lying there dead and then next thing she sees is a man walk past her with a rock in hand. I can't remember if she actually saw it happen, but if it was just the immediate moment after, she could well be confused about it (say it was her dad but she didn't want to believe it).
I'm not sure I'd go with the idea that the daughter did it on her own, and has since created an imaginery man to cover up her own guilt. If she was older, like teenage years, I would think it very possible, but she was very so ickle so could she really have killed her mother, a grown woman, at that age. If the story is a freak story (as in a rare ocurrence that succeeded on this random occasion) then ok maybe, but, I'll still go with the mystery man for now.
Her name's been mentioned, but to add, she was also in Silent Witness, one of the more recent series, and in the one off Anne Lister thingy that Maxine Peake was in. She played the character of Anne Lister's lover i think (Lister played by peake).
1) She DOES look right at him and apologise in the car incident.
2) We see the back of the killer's head, darkish hair, balding at the back, looks male, wearing a wedding ring which is clearly visible in the rock-holding hand.
3) When he says "Hello Anne" it does sound a lot like the Oncologist's voice
Why is she SO obsessed with having a baby boy at the same age as her mum? Did she kill her brother?
The Mum was pregnant when she died, they were talking about it in the opening scene and the she - as a little girl - was rather miffed to be told that she'd be sharing their special place with the new arrival.
So I don't think she killed her brother as such, but if she killed her pregnant Mum, then yep, she killed the baby too.
Sorry, that's what I meant by killing her brother, killing him whilst he was unborn by killing the mum (so both murders are "on her" so to speak)
Option 2 could just be as she remembers the events as opposed to what actually happened. Given her state of mind, she could have created the image and as far as she is now concerned, it is fact.