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Do you have a workplace Mafia?.

U96U96 Posts: 13,937
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You know the ones.They are shit at their job yet seem to get the promotion you've been after for years.
Maybe they play football or golf.In with the in crowd.Socialise together but you're never there.
You try your best,never off sick or late.Yet you never rise through the ranks.
Tell us about your workplace Mafia.

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    deev1ne0nedeev1ne0ne Posts: 2,161
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    I could go on all day, but I fear I would give the game away.

    Suffice it to say that they all live in the same ass-backward small town, have been in their job for years, and see themselves as upwardly mobile. I don't see my job as an opportunity for anything other than CV padding.
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    HypnodiscHypnodisc Posts: 22,728
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    One of the many reasons I work for myself.

    Workplaces always seem to attract such.. unhealthy and illogical dynamics.
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    U96U96 Posts: 13,937
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    deev1ne0ne wrote: »
    I could go on all day, but I fear I would give the game away.

    Suffice it to say that they all live in the same ass-backward small town, have been in their job for years, and see themselves as upwardly mobile. I don't see my job as an opportunity for anything other than CV padding.

    I'm not that fussed about climbing the greasy pole.But i do wonder how guys who have been on their final written warnings, seem to turn it around- and have meteoric rises to the higher echelons of the career ladder.Maybe they're Masons or something?.
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    U96U96 Posts: 13,937
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    Hypnodisc wrote: »
    One of the many reasons I work for myself.

    Workplaces always seem to attract such.. unhealthy and illogical dynamics.

    And you can never break into their secret society.You can ask as many questions as you like.Even make it formal.But you just hit the brick wall of excuses and silence.
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    Joni MJoni M Posts: 70,225
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    U96 wrote: »
    You know the ones.They are shit at their job yet seem to get the promotion you've been after for years.
    Maybe they play football or golf.In with the in crowd.Socialise together but you're never there.
    You try your best,never off sick or late.Yet you never rise through the ranks.
    Tell us about your workplace Mafia.

    Not personally but I have witnessed it many times in the voluntary sector.
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    HypnodiscHypnodisc Posts: 22,728
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    U96 wrote: »
    And you can never break into their secret society.You can ask as many questions as you like.Even make it formal.But you just hit the brick wall of excuses and silence.

    It's all just self-serving cronyism and nepotism.. try not to take it personally I guess?
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    HypnodiscHypnodisc Posts: 22,728
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    Joni M wrote: »
    Not personally but I have witnessed it many times in the voluntary sector.

    Ditto - the voluntary sector can be some of the worst.

    People wonder why so many companies and organisations are 'corrupt' and 'useless'.. it's because of people like that.

    It's not even because of anything particularly sinister, but because people are solely focused on 'me, me, me' to the detriment of everything else.
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    kiviraatkiviraat Posts: 4,634
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    Because of where I live, the majority of the small workforce (less than 8) is 'local' and all know each other, or in some cases are very closely related. If it was up to them, they'd never employ anyone outside their bubble. Luckily the director is from the mainland and tries to keep on top of the worst of it. There's no bullying or the likes thankfully but there's definitely a 'them and you' vibe.

    My other job seems to be a bit more open but some folk do tend to gang up and give the better hours to their pals :(
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    U96U96 Posts: 13,937
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    Joni M wrote: »
    Not personally but I have witnessed it many times in the voluntary sector.

    Even in the voluntary sector?.I always thought it was just in the 'the grabbing hands,grab all they can' paid sector.
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    U96U96 Posts: 13,937
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    Hypnodisc wrote: »
    It's all just self-serving cronyism and nepotism.. try not to take it personally I guess?

    'They smile in your face,all they wanna do is take your place'.The Backstabbers.>:(
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    HypnodiscHypnodisc Posts: 22,728
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    U96 wrote: »
    Even in the voluntary sector?.I always thought it was just in the 'the grabbing hands,grab all they can' paid sector.

    In the non-profit sector there's no incentive for anybody to get rid of anybody, especially if they aren't being paid.

    Think of how this problem affects the public sector (and how it's so hard for councils to get rid of lazy ikes etc), and then extrapolate...
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    pugamopugamo Posts: 18,039
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    It's eat or be eaten out there...I suggest you befriend your boss OP
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    U96U96 Posts: 13,937
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    Hypnodisc wrote: »
    Ditto - the voluntary sector can be some of the worst.

    People wonder why so many companies and organisations are 'corrupt' and 'useless'.. it's because of people like that.

    It's not even because of anything particularly sinister, but because people are solely focused on 'me, me, me' to the detriment of everything else.

    That doesn't come naturally to me.They probably think of me as 'naive'.Doesn't bother me.
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    U96U96 Posts: 13,937
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    kiviraat wrote: »
    Because of where I live, the majority of the small workforce (less than 8) is 'local' and all know each other, or in some cases are very closely related. If it was up to them, they'd never employ anyone outside their bubble. Luckily the director is from the mainland and tries to keep on top of the worst of it. There's no bullying or the likes thankfully but there's definitely a 'them and you' vibe.

    My other job seems to be a bit more open but some folk do tend to gang up and give the better hours to their pals :(

    'We don't like strangers round these parts -OUTLANDER!'.:D
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    venusinflaresvenusinflares Posts: 4,194
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    I was once sacked from a job because I 'didn't fit in with the rest of the girls'. I was only sixteen at the time. They were all horrible and I'm glad I didn't 'fit in' with them. They were all from Wakefield and knew each other outside work as they all (including the two very unpleasant female bosses) went to the same church.
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    edExedEx Posts: 13,460
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    Not currently as I'm freelance these days, but in one previous company I worked for there was such a group of self-important tossers promoted well beyond their ability, who loved to try and motivate people by fear and intimidation whilst spending their own working hours laughing and joking with each other.

    I hated them, they hated me. Mostly because I used to rather happily and loudly tell everyone else to ignore their pathetic excuse for a management style whenever they tried to make one of the girls cry or similar. The company couldn't do without me, making me untouchable from their nonsense, but eventually it had to because I got a much better job elsewhere. About 9 months after that I heard they'd all been fired for misconduct by one of the partners. Laughed my socks off about that :)
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    U96U96 Posts: 13,937
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    Hypnodisc wrote: »
    In the non-profit sector there's no incentive for anybody to get rid of anybody, especially if they aren't being paid.

    Think of how this problem affects the public sector (and how it's so hard for councils to get rid of lazy ikes etc), and then extrapolate...

    Yes,it seems the same for both public and private.I'm always on the outside,looking in.I'll never be one of them.But that makes me happy!.:D
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    U96U96 Posts: 13,937
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    pugamo wrote: »
    It's eat or be eaten out there...I suggest you befriend your boss OP

    I didn't even go to his Wedding reception.I'm a right unsociable bastard.Mybe that sealed my fate?.
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    U96U96 Posts: 13,937
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    I was once sacked from a job because I 'didn't fit in with the rest of the girls'. I was only sixteen at the time. They were all horrible and I'm glad I didn't 'fit in' with them. They were all from Wakefield and knew each other outside work as they all (including the two very unpleasant female bosses) went to the same church.

    They certainly didn't practice the word of the Lord.These people are always the same.
    I had the same problem.Left school at 16 and got bullied by the guy 1 level higher than me.I grassed him to the boss and he never spoke to me again.
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    Joni MJoni M Posts: 70,225
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    U96 wrote: »
    Even in the voluntary sector?.I always thought it was just in the 'the grabbing hands,grab all they can' paid sector.

    As Hypnodisc said, there's is a LOT of nepotism in the Third Sector, people seem to get away with a lot more due to lack of scrutiny.
    Sometimes, the Trustees sit on boards without any real 'power', so they tend to be honorary postions and don't have anyone to report to, themselves, as they are unaware of the structures.

    Also the Charity Commission won't get involved in disputes so whistleblowing is rare.

    There are MANY fantastic charities though which are run impeccably, it's just that I have experienced a fair few that haven't been.
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    U96U96 Posts: 13,937
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    edEx wrote: »
    Not currently as I'm freelance these days, but in one previous company I worked for there was such a group of self-important tossers promoted well beyond their ability, who loved to try and motivate people by fear and intimidation whilst spending their own working hours laughing and joking with each other.

    I hated them, they hated me. Mostly because I used to rather happily and loudly tell everyone else to ignore their pathetic excuse for a management style whenever they tried to make one of the girls cry or similar. The company couldn't do without me, making me untouchable from their nonsense, but eventually it had to because I got a much better job elsewhere. About 9 months after that I heard they'd all been fired for misconduct by one of the partners. Laughed my socks off about that :)


    'self important tossers promoted well beyond their ability'.That's my workplace.
    They seem to think they're'untouchable'.
    It's funny to see people who you used to consider as fairly down to earth.Become total arseholes and up themselves with a couple of promotions.They lose touch with reality.
    There's no excuse for that in my book.
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    U96U96 Posts: 13,937
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    Joni M wrote: »
    As Hypnodisc said, there's is a LOT of nepotism in the Third Sector, people seem to get away with a lot more due to lack of scrutiny.
    Sometimes, the Trustees sit on boards without any real 'power', so they tend to be honorary postions and don't have anyone to report to, themselves, as they are unaware of the structures.

    Also the Charity Commission won't get involved in disputes so whistleblowing is rare.

    There are MANY fantastic charities though which are run impeccably, it's just that I have experienced a fair few that haven't been.

    I can see why people go self employed.
    If I'd won the £107 million Euro Lottery.I would've went round my workplace and hand picked the good people to start my own company.The majority of them would've been from the lower ranks.The so called 'Senior Managers/Managers/Senior Supervisors etc would've been left behind.
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    SupratadSupratad Posts: 10,450
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    Where I used to work, there was a little clique of guys who were well in with the big boss. They always get the best jobs in the best parts of town. No risk to them of dealers trying to short change you, or junkies or pimps with Aids you didn't dare beat up for fear of spilling blood.
    No, they got the easiest hits too, or knocking off business with high income and no weapons in the house, while I got the hardened liquer stores. We might have all dressed the same in black suits and ties, but they were definitely treated better.

    It was very much a mafia mafia.
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    victor melvictor mel Posts: 4,963
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    There is two sides to the work place. A professional front and a more personal one. Its all about who is liked where I work. Some staff try and treat others the same but thier personal feelings leak through.
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    chaffchaff Posts: 985
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    If you're not manoeuvring yourself into a promotion then you're doing it wrong. Unless you don't want a promotion, in which case there's no point being bitter about it.
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