Andrews gave an unforgettable Oscar winning performance at that press conference....but it proved to be her undoing too as unknown to her two plain clothes detectives sat in with the press and Andrews said something which was contradictory to the statement she'd made. It also enabled them to locate the penknife she used to murder Lee Harvey with. But she'd made a number of glaring errors before so the Police already had her under very strong suspicion.
I won't ever forget it as she reminded me of a very similar relationship i once endured......frighteningly similar.
She dumped the pen knife in a sanitary towel bin in the hospital toilets. The bloody imprint of a knife blade was found on the inside of her boot.
She dumped the pen knife in a sanitary towel bin in the hospital toilets. The bloody imprint of a knife blade was found on the inside of her boot.
Yes she wasn't exactly the brightest bulb by any means. Another mistake she made, she claimed the alleged 'road rage' youths that had attacked her boyfriend happened at the rear of their car.......yet Harvey's blood spatters were found all over the front. There was no blood spatters on the rear.
She should have been given a whole life tariff. 14 years was an insult.
the only way I can reason this out in my head is to think maybe the man was having a paranoid episode and thought he was being attacked or was delusioned and attacking an animal or something ? ? Who knows , mind you I am not excusing it just simply trying to make sense of it
Possibly he was a paranoid schizophrenic, in which case he should be committed to a secure mental hospital like Broadmoor for the rest of his life as he will always be a danger.
Possibly he was a paranoid schizophrenic, in which case he should be committed to a secure mental hospital like Broadmoor for the rest of his life as he will always be a danger.
Shut the places down where all these people used to be kept, treated and generally kept from harming either themselves or anyone else, and sell the site off for yet more houses and flats to be built. Make a few million to put into the local council coffers in the process.
Then, just leave them to roam freely around in the local community and let everyone else have the problem of them. Marvellous!
I am astonished that woman is out of prison, I remember her TV appeal for the fictitious murderer to come forward. I hope her new bloke doesn't cause any upset.
Yes her and the other one who whacked her boyfriend with a base ball bat and then stabbed him - she got out recently only did 14 years. I think she escaped once as well.
Yes she wasn't exactly the brightest bulb by any means. Another mistake she made, she claimed the alleged 'road rage' youths that had attacked her boyfriend happened at the rear of their car.......yet Harvey's blood spatters were found all over the front. There was no blood spatters on the rear.
She should have been given a whole life tariff. 14 years was an insult.
Rare in those days, even 14 years for a life sentence was long. I wouldn't have let her out but I wasn't on the parole board. She is still on licence for the rest of her life.
Possibly he was a paranoid schizophrenic, in which case he should be committed to a secure mental hospital like Broadmoor for the rest of his life as he will always be a danger.
Where do you get that from I've not read anything about his mental state?
Yes her and the other one who whacked her boyfriend with a base ball bat and then stabbed him - she got out recently only did 14 years. I think she escaped once as well.
Jane Andrews.
Cricket bat. She was jailed for 12 years and did the extra 2 years for escaping.
Until a few years ago many murderers were released after only 11 years.
A man who stabbed a retired solicitor 39 times after a crash between their cars has been cleared of murder but convicted of his manslaughter.
Matthew Daley, 35, killed Donald Lock, on the A24 in Findon, near Worthing, last July after the 79-year-old ran into the back of his vehicle.
Daley had admitted stabbing Mr Lock to death, claiming diminished responsibility.
Lewes Crown Court heard Daley suffered from chronic mental health problems.
The judge, Mr Justice Singh adjourned the case for sentencing on 8 July.
Mr Lock's family said the manslaughter verdict brought to a close the "most horrific 10 months of our lives and brings some sort of justice for Dad".
However, they blamed the NHS for his death.
"This verdict effectively provides the Daley family with what they have wanted for the last few years, their son in a safe place away from harm's way and being treated correctly," Mr Lock's family said in a statement.
So very sad for the family who lost someone dear to them .
What continues to perplex me in similar man slaughter/diminished responsibility cases is how the guilty party gets well enough to fight for their own freedom/rights.
Say I woke up tomorrow to be told I'd killed somebody in a mad rage that i didn't remember (totally unlikely as am very gentle person), then Id feel so terrible that I'd give my own life. Not ruddy fight for my rights. Yet this is what seems to happen
Of course my sympathy lays with Mr Lock and his family.
But I also have some for Mr. Daley and his family.
Mr. Daley is clearly a very sick man, he was a walking time bomb, whose family knew him best, who had such great concerns for him, those concerns were ignored.
So very sad for the family who lost someone dear to them .
What continues to perplex me in similar man slaughter/diminished responsibility cases is how the guilty party gets well enough to fight for their own freedom/rights.
Say I woke up tomorrow to be told I'd killed somebody in a mad rage that i didn't remember (totally unlikely as am very gentle person), then Id feel so terrible that I'd give my own life. Not ruddy fight for my rights. Yet this is what seems to happen
Thing is this guys family had been trying for TEN years to get him commited. They knew something was wrong with him, however the NHS kept turning him away.
Its all very well the NHS saying they will do things differently in future but they're not funded enough to do that, mental health funding in this country is abysmal.
Another innocent person murdered by a schizophrenic, whenever we hear of some innocent person stabbed in a supermarket or just going about their business, it is usually by a schizophrenic. Schizophrenics should be kept in secure accommodation and not left to wander the streets without their medication.
Thing is this guys family had been trying for TEN years to get him commited. They knew something was wrong with him, however the NHS kept turning him away.
You just hope the people around this bloke are more invested in the safety of the community than the future freedom of this man.
I know we have victims statements these days in court but it still seems that much is decided with the guilty in mind rather than those who are left suffering trhe most.
Another innocent person murdered by a schizophrenic, whenever we hear of some innocent person stabbed in a supermarket or just going about their business, it is usually by a schizophrenic. Schizophrenics should be kept in secure accommodation and not left to wander the streets without their medication.
Its all very well the NHS saying they will do things differently in future but they're not funded enough to do that, mental health funding in this country is abysmal.
Hi Tia,
I agree, mental health funding in this country is atrocious.
But it is not the NHS saying they will do things differently, it is the Chief executive of Sussex Partnership NHS Foundation saying it.
They admit they, ( some individuals ), got it wrong, they had the facilities, they had the expertise, they ignored the concerns, nothing to do with funding.
It wasn't experts trying, showing they did their best, they ignored.
Question them openly, then decide, without fear of mass revolt, if to prosecute.
Shut down all the care centres where the mentally ill could be kept securely and treated and sell the sites off to build lots of new housing estates on.
Meanwhile, those with mental health issues are free to walk the streets amongst us, not getting the level of care they so desperately need.
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She should have been given a whole life tariff. 14 years was an insult.
It's worth having, for the legal formalities.
Possibly he was a paranoid schizophrenic, in which case he should be committed to a secure mental hospital like Broadmoor for the rest of his life as he will always be a danger.
In which case he should have been there already.
Shut the places down where all these people used to be kept, treated and generally kept from harming either themselves or anyone else, and sell the site off for yet more houses and flats to be built. Make a few million to put into the local council coffers in the process.
Then, just leave them to roam freely around in the local community and let everyone else have the problem of them. Marvellous!
Yes her and the other one who whacked her boyfriend with a base ball bat and then stabbed him - she got out recently only did 14 years. I think she escaped once as well.
Fan-****ing-tastic, and the victim's had his life messed up even more considerably.
Rare in those days, even 14 years for a life sentence was long. I wouldn't have let her out but I wasn't on the parole board. She is still on licence for the rest of her life.
Where do you get that from
Jane Andrews.
Cricket bat. She was jailed for 12 years and did the extra 2 years for escaping.
Until a few years ago many murderers were released after only 11 years.
The counsel for the defence has said in court this morning that he has "clear psychiatric and mental health issues".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36305405
Very sad for all involved.
So very sad for the family who lost someone dear to them .
What continues to perplex me in similar man slaughter/diminished responsibility cases is how the guilty party gets well enough to fight for their own freedom/rights.
Say I woke up tomorrow to be told I'd killed somebody in a mad rage that i didn't remember (totally unlikely as am very gentle person), then Id feel so terrible that I'd give my own life. Not ruddy fight for my rights. Yet this is what seems to happen
But I also have some for Mr. Daley and his family.
Mr. Daley is clearly a very sick man, he was a walking time bomb, whose family knew him best, who had such great concerns for him, those concerns were ignored.
An innocent man died, tragic.
Thing is this guys family had been trying for TEN years to get him commited. They knew something was wrong with him, however the NHS kept turning him away.
You just hope the people around this bloke are more invested in the safety of the community than the future freedom of this man.
I know we have victims statements these days in court but it still seems that much is decided with the guilty in mind rather than those who are left suffering trhe most.
Absolutely. We should take no chances.
I agree, mental health funding in this country is atrocious.
But it is not the NHS saying they will do things differently, it is the Chief executive of Sussex Partnership NHS Foundation saying it.
They admit they, ( some individuals ), got it wrong, they had the facilities, they had the expertise, they ignored the concerns, nothing to do with funding.
It wasn't experts trying, showing they did their best, they ignored.
Question them openly, then decide, without fear of mass revolt, if to prosecute.
Shut down all the care centres where the mentally ill could be kept securely and treated and sell the sites off to build lots of new housing estates on.
Meanwhile, those with mental health issues are free to walk the streets amongst us, not getting the level of care they so desperately need.
I fear this sort of thing will keep happening.