But before we start getting too sentimental and nostalgic, let's remember that most local output, commercial and BBC, was - and remains - utterly dire.
Some were, but my local, Border, produced a five minute short called Border Heritage that showed scenes from the region and was so popular it was made into a DVD. Also they managed to produce a well respected rugby show called The Union and The League that had a big following on Friday nights, the two codes traditionally being bigger than football.
Very interesting planning document there,Im not sure where the original news studio was
but it was i believe converted back to offices when the whole news operation moved to the next door building that had been an ice rink,and ytv aquired this. Think they were in that building for over 20 years before moving back into the tv centre couple of years ago. Think the new Calendar studio is now in what was the ytv bar which is at the bottom right hand side of the building in the plan. I have always been suprised at the size of the ytv complex and how efficiently it was designed and worked. This plan is just the ground floor,there are actually three floors in parts of the building.Glad to see it is back being more or less fully occupied again by itv.
Whilst it is true in theory, in practice it was unlikely to happen because Network companies paid for the network programming even if they did not show it and any itv company opting out of a high percentage of network output would probably be sanctioned by the IBA/ITC.
When Thames joined the network they refused to show Crossroads prompting a campaign led by the Prime Ministers Wife Mary Willson, it was restored after a few months.
The old itv network would show big programmes across all the network at the same time, but also allowed for split networking where programmes would be shown on different days or at different times sometimes weeks later, so if you missed a programme you could sometimes catch it on a adjacent region another day or time. itv companies also bought in material independently to be shown in their own region, mainly during the day or late at night.
When they bought in programmes from the likes of the USA or Australia they would mark it as a "presentation" rather than a production.
If memory serves, sometimes they would "present" it to the network for multi-region screening, whereas it was sometimes for home region broadcasting only. http://hub.tv-ark.org.uk/images/itveast/anglia_images/gallery/anglia_pres_1980_t738.jpg
Very interesting planning document there,Im not sure where the original news studio was
but it was i believe converted back to offices when the whole news operation moved to the next door building that had been an ice rink,and ytv aquired this. Think they were in that building for over 20 years before moving back into the tv centre couple of years ago. Think the new Calendar studio is now in what was the ytv bar which is at the bottom right hand side of the building in the plan. I have always been suprised at the size of the ytv complex and how efficiently it was designed and worked. This plan is just the ground floor,there are actually three floors in parts of the building.Glad to see it is back being more or less fully occupied again by itv.
But before we start getting too sentimental and nostalgic, let's remember that most local output, commercial and BBC, was - and remains - utterly dire.
We have a load of excellent local output. You obviously haven't watched any of it to make such sweeping, unresearched comments.
Border Television became the home of the Krankies in the twilight years of their career and they managed to get a show networked. Also they did a pop show for Channel 4 called Buzz, hosted by Muriel Gray. However, this being Border, the bands were usually z list acts like Spear of Destiny,
Border Television became the home of the Krankies in the twilight years of their career and they managed to get a show networked. Also they did a pop show for Channel 4 called Buzz, hosted by Muriel Gray. However, this being Border, the bands were usually z list acts like Spear of Destiny,
There still outlasted Cannon and ball for tv series..
Sometime in the early 1980's, I cant remember the exact year. Yorkshire TV refused to show the FA Cup Final because no Yorkshire team was involved and because the match was being shown live on BBC 1.
Sometime in the early 1980's, I cant remember the exact year. Yorkshire TV refused to show the FA Cup Final because no Yorkshire team was involved and because the match was being shown live on BBC 1.
1982, Yorkshire Television did indeed show the FA Cup final between Queens Park Rangers and Tottenham Hotspur. The match ended in a draw, the replay was the following Thursday and YTV opted out as they were both London clubs and had little interest to the folks up north.
The replay was shown live on BBC North.
I could receive Central and Yorkshire at the time, the difference in schedules was quite vast. Whilst Yorkshire seemed to show a lot of programmes about Yorkshire, Central just shot light years ahead of other regions with any aussie soap they could get their hands on. Being from Derbyshire, I watched alot more Central telly.
Having Central and Yorkshire way back was quite interesting to compare. Central was very innovative in presentation and image and was clearly a well-funded station. And yes, if you were a fan of Prisoner Cell Block H it was THE region to live in
So Central, presumably a richer company than the others mentioned, invested less in local programming in those slots than poorer neighbours.
I'd hardly call Yorkshire TV poor! It was one of the big 5 in the network. Yorkshire TV had dated imaging and branding, quite poor local news and it just felt tired and dull. Certainly the news never satisfactorily covered its area. The smaller neighbouring companies Anglia and Tyne Tees even looked better! Anglia especially outdid YTV in news, regional production, presentation and image.
Apart from news programmes I don't understand why everything else wasn't networked
That was because the broadcaster .. The ITA then IBA. Wanted to and was set up by parliament to be a regional broadcaster using the programne contractor in each area...
ATV LWT Border etc were not broadcasters .... But were there to serve the region..
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http://plandocs.leeds.gov.uk/WAM/doc/Drawing-267683.pdf?extension=.pdf&id=267683&location=VOLUME2&contentType=application/pdf&pageCount=1
Some were, but my local, Border, produced a five minute short called Border Heritage that showed scenes from the region and was so popular it was made into a DVD. Also they managed to produce a well respected rugby show called The Union and The League that had a big following on Friday nights, the two codes traditionally being bigger than football.
Very interesting planning document there,Im not sure where the original news studio was
but it was i believe converted back to offices when the whole news operation moved to the next door building that had been an ice rink,and ytv aquired this. Think they were in that building for over 20 years before moving back into the tv centre couple of years ago. Think the new Calendar studio is now in what was the ytv bar which is at the bottom right hand side of the building in the plan. I have always been suprised at the size of the ytv complex and how efficiently it was designed and worked. This plan is just the ground floor,there are actually three floors in parts of the building.Glad to see it is back being more or less fully occupied again by itv.
When they bought in programmes from the likes of the USA or Australia they would mark it as a "presentation" rather than a production.
If memory serves, sometimes they would "present" it to the network for multi-region screening, whereas it was sometimes for home region broadcasting only. http://hub.tv-ark.org.uk/images/itveast/anglia_images/gallery/anglia_pres_1980_t738.jpg
Yorkshire studios -
First floor plan - http://plandocs.leeds.gov.uk/WAM/doc/Drawing-267686.pdf?extension=.pdf&id=267686&location=VOLUME2&contentType=application/pdf&pageCount=1
First floor plan today - http://plandocs.leeds.gov.uk/WAM/doc/Drawing-267719.pdf?extension=.pdf&id=267719&location=VOLUME2&contentType=application/pdf&pageCount=1
Ground floor plan today - http://plandocs.leeds.gov.uk/WAM/doc/Drawing-267716.pdf?extension=.pdf&id=267716&location=VOLUME2&contentType=application/pdf&pageCount=1
Second floor plan today - http://plandocs.leeds.gov.uk/WAM/doc/Drawing-267721.pdf?extension=.pdf&id=267721&location=VOLUME2&contentType=application/pdf&pageCount=1
We have a load of excellent local output. You obviously haven't watched any of it to make such sweeping, unresearched comments.
There still outlasted Cannon and ball for tv series..
1982, Yorkshire Television did indeed show the FA Cup final between Queens Park Rangers and Tottenham Hotspur. The match ended in a draw, the replay was the following Thursday and YTV opted out as they were both London clubs and had little interest to the folks up north.
The replay was shown live on BBC North.
Having Central and Yorkshire way back was quite interesting to compare. Central was very innovative in presentation and image and was clearly a well-funded station. And yes, if you were a fan of Prisoner Cell Block H it was THE region to live in
Central News East or Calendar? No contest!
I'd hardly call Yorkshire TV poor! It was one of the big 5 in the network. Yorkshire TV had dated imaging and branding, quite poor local news and it just felt tired and dull. Certainly the news never satisfactorily covered its area. The smaller neighbouring companies Anglia and Tyne Tees even looked better! Anglia especially outdid YTV in news, regional production, presentation and image.
I remember Krazy Kitchen they did at Border around 1985 time
That was because the broadcaster .. The ITA then IBA. Wanted to and was set up by parliament to be a regional broadcaster using the programne contractor in each area...
ATV LWT Border etc were not broadcasters .... But were there to serve the region..