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VOdafone - I hate you.

iwastheretooiwastheretoo Posts: 74
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DOes anyone have any good tips for getting through on the phone to Vodafone regarding upgrades? I renewed my contract with the at the end of March and received an email from them 1st APril stating that the new phone I ordered was no longer available. I was told to ring them to discuss. I have rung them 9 times since and sent 5 emails, I have not managed to speak to them, or had any reply from the emails.

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    flagpoleflagpole Posts: 44,641
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    i called the 'thinking of leaving vodafone' option and they answered straight away.

    the consensus is that it's best to try multiple times rather than stay on hold for a long time.

    their CS really has gone to ****
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 72
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    Hi Guys

    I know the queues to get through to us are longer than we'd like at the moment. :(

    Don't worry though - there are still other ways to get in touch.

    Since you like to do things online check out our awesome Online Uprgades Tool or if you'd like to see what's available with a "hands on approach" than pop down to your local store.

    I'm glad I could help

    :cool:

    Kirsty_Vodafone
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    P.S - flagpole - are you the same flagpole as on our lovely eForum? If so nice to speak to you again - if not - nice to meet you! ;)
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    flagpoleflagpole Posts: 44,641
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    yep same flagpole - i don't know why i took that pseudonym, but it definitely started here.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 503
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    What Kirsty and co don't want you to know is a lot of Vodafone's customer service is outsourced to a company called 'Conduit' in South Wales so the chances are if you call their CS and the agent has a Welsh accent then the chances are you're unfortunate enough to be through to them.

    Their emphasis is number of calls dealt with, not number of satisfied callers. As a former employee I have more than an idea of what I'm talking about. If there's any doubt about what I'm saying, trying talking about Conduit on Voda's eforum and see what happens. I was banned from there for being 'racist' by pointing out the above - curious seeing as I'm Welsh myself.

    When Voda investigate complaints coming from their callcenters the vast majority come from customers who spoke to Conduit agents. Not all their employees do a bad job but those that do are given almost limitless "slaps on the wrists" instead of any real action taken, just as long as they get call times lowered.
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    AppleseedAppleseed Posts: 3,827
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    Hi Guys

    I know the queues to get through to us are longer than we'd like at the moment. :(

    Don't worry though - there are still other ways to get in touch.

    Since you like to do things online check out our awesome Online Uprgades Tool or if you'd like to see what's available with a "hands on approach" than pop down to your local store.

    I'm glad I could help

    :cool:

    Kirsty_Vodafone
    Vodafone Cusotmer Services
    eForum Team

    P.S - flagpole - are you the same flagpole as on our lovely eForum? If so nice to speak to you again - if not - nice to meet you! ;)

    If you know that the queues are longer than you'd like, why don't you employ some more people (there are a few around who would like a job at the moment) and start answering the phones?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 49
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    If you know that the queues are longer than you'd like, why don't you employ some more people (there are a few around who would like a job at the moment) and start answering the phones?

    Its all down to making a profit --- mobile phone companies are in business to make profits. It seems that the majority of customers seem to want 1200 mins - unlimited texts - unlimited landline calls - free 2gb wap bundles and the most expensive handset in the range, for peanuts.

    Pay Peanuts and something has to be cut. Call Centres cost money and when profits start dropping so the staff levels drop.
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    flagpoleflagpole Posts: 44,641
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    quite. people say they want great customer service but in the end they go for the swankyest handset and the most minutes.

    we are the masters of our own destruction.
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    clubfoot fcclubfoot fc Posts: 254
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    flagpole wrote: »
    quite. people say they want great customer service but in the end they go for the swankyest handset and the most minutes.

    we are the masters of our own destruction.



    Exactly
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 503
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    But seeing as deals are getting less rewarding (ie few if any top-end handsets are free on lower/mid range tariffs like they used to be) that means we should be seeing an improvement in CS.
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    flagpoleflagpole Posts: 44,641
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    iRuss wrote: »
    But seeing as deals are getting less rewarding (ie few if any top-end handsets are free on lower/mid range tariffs like they used to be) that means we should be seeing an improvement in CS.

    that's not completely true is it. i mean a couple of years ago 200 minutes, no texts was £30pcm. now you'd expect 600 minutes, 1000 texts and a load of data for that much.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 503
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    Are you saying top-end phones are still free on low-to-mid range tariffs?

    If so then I'd love to know which network they're on.

    I'm talking UK networks btw
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    AppleseedAppleseed Posts: 3,827
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    flagpole wrote: »
    that's not completely true is it. i mean a couple of years ago 200 minutes, no texts was £30pcm. now you'd expect 600 minutes, 1000 texts and a load of data for that much.

    That's life.
    10 years ago for £25-30 a month you would get 300 off-peak mins (to call YOUR OWN network) no texts at all! It's called progress

    Phone companies make millions and millions of pounds every year and employing some people to answer phones wouldn't even scratch the profits. It's just greed
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    flagpoleflagpole Posts: 44,641
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    iRuss wrote: »
    Are you saying top-end phones are still free on low-to-mid range tariffs?

    If so then I'd love to know which network they're on.

    I'm talking UK networks btw

    no i'm not saying that at all. i'm not some kind of moron.

    you said 'deals are getting less rewarding'. so we should see better customer service. i said they aren't less rewarding, you get 5x as many minutes and texts as you used to.

    even inflation adjusted there never used to be £500 pound phones, so it's a very difficult comparison to make.

    but not withstanding that there is massive price deflation in the mobile market.

    subsidies have been reduced, but there is a great deal of transparency given that now all the networks will offer you a sim only deal. you can see that the difference between the sim only deal and the with phone price is the amount of money that goes towards the subsidy.

    the subsidy x the length of contract represents the total difference between the cash price for the phone and the lump sum they will ask you for. how else can it work?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 503
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    flagpole wrote: »
    you said 'deals are getting less rewarding'.

    And I immediately followed it up with an example you've ignored twice now.
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    flagpoleflagpole Posts: 44,641
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    You said this
    iRuss wrote: »
    But seeing as deals are getting less rewarding (ie few if any top-end handsets are free on lower/mid range tariffs like they used to be) that means we should be seeing an improvement in CS.

    in what sense is this ignoring you. any more and it would be a thesis.
    flagpole wrote: »
    no i'm not saying that at all. i'm not some kind of moron.

    you said 'deals are getting less rewarding'. so we should see better customer service. i said they aren't less rewarding, you get 5x as many minutes and texts as you used to.

    even inflation adjusted there never used to be £500 pound phones, so it's a very difficult comparison to make.

    but not withstanding that there is massive price deflation in the mobile market.

    subsidies have been reduced, but there is a great deal of transparency given that now all the networks will offer you a sim only deal. you can see that the difference between the sim only deal and the with phone price is the amount of money that goes towards the subsidy.

    the subsidy x the length of contract represents the total difference between the cash price for the phone and the lump sum they will ask you for. how else can it work?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 503
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    I cited handset price as an example of how deals are no longer as rewarding as they used to be. You ignored that and talked about tariffs.

    Networks are no longer subsidising higher ended phones which means their costs are lowering. From your 'logic' this should mean an improvement in customer service. Instead it gets shipped off to Manilla (T-mobile).
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