There is that attitude, but it's not one that a parent of an autistic child who is severely distressed gives a sh^t at the time about to be honest. They should be grateful if the children in their family are healthy and well.
At the time when it happened to me, I was fully occupied in trying to calm the child and remove him from the situation which was admittedly a lose lose for everyone.
If people are so up their own arses that they can't empathise for a child in distress, then I wouldn't really care what they thought.
They wouldn't be the sort of people I'd want to count amongst my social circle.
You certainly wouldn't be counting me within your social circle.
There is empathising with a child in distress because he/she has had a fright or accident or become separated from their parent/s and there is being expected to tolerate children's behaviour by parents who are deluded enough to think that their children really are the most important things to ever breathe.
It isn't any one's duty to tolerate the bad behaviour of someone else's child.
If that is due to a disability, the parents shouldn't put the child in a stressful situation. Too often it's the parent/s' sheer selfishness at not wanting to miss out on a bit of gun and dragging their children along to places and situations that are patently unsuitable for them.
If your child is shaking, terrified, sitting under a table, unable to communicate, they could ask you to moon in the high street, you couldn't do it you have to focus on calming your child and ignoramuses making it worse doesn't help.
Besides, if you're after is cheap and quick it shows that you really don't care much about what the kids are eating and really don't want to spend much time there.
Initially that is because they are the scents that they have already become accustomed to and therefore recognise, and following that it's because of the addictive additives in the food.
Of course. A treat.
My 80 year old grandfather, never saw a MacDonald's, or any fast food outlet actually, till he was in his 60s and loved it the first time he tasted it. It is a treat, high in sugar and salt and fat.
I have absolutely no problem with eating MacDonald's once in a while, their products are actually much better quality controlled than a lot of so called chain "restaurants" that do not want to be associated with the fast food brand.
You certainly wouldn't be counting me within your social circle.
There is empathising with a child in distress because he/she has had a fright or accident or become separated from their parent/s and there is being expected to tolerate children's behaviour by parents who are deluded enough to think that their children really are the most important things to ever breathe.
It isn't any one's duty to tolerate the bad behaviour of someone else's child.
If that is due to a disability, the parents shouldn't put the child in a stressful situation. Too often it's the parent/s' sheer selfishness at not wanting to miss out on a bit of gun and dragging their children along to places and situations that are patently unsuitable for them.
Bless your ignorance. A part of getting a child with a disabilty to understand how to behave is to expose them to that situation. How else do you teach them?
There are still a few as ignorant as you. I pity your ignorance, I also envy your ignorance as you've never had to meet reality of mental health. I hope you never do too
You certainly wouldn't be counting me within your social circle.
There is empathising with a child in distress because he/she has had a fright or accident or become separated from their parent/s and there is being expected to tolerate children's behaviour by parents who are deluded enough to think that their children really are the most important things to ever breathe.
It isn't any one's duty to tolerate the bad behaviour of someone else's child.
If that is due to a disability, the parents shouldn't put the child in a stressful situation. Too often it's the parent/s' sheer selfishness at not wanting to miss out on a bit of gun and dragging their children along to places and situations that are patently unsuitable for them.
If you are claiming to be mentally sound, yet to go to restaurants where they welcome children, perhaps you should question your own decision making abilities,
You certainly wouldn't be counting me within your social circle.
There is empathising with a child in distress because he/she has had a fright or accident or become separated from their parent/s and there is being expected to tolerate children's behaviour by parents who are deluded enough to think that their children really are the most important things to ever breathe.
It isn't any one's duty to tolerate the bad behaviour of someone else's child.
If that is due to a disability, the parents shouldn't put the child in a stressful situation. Too often it's the parent/s' sheer selfishness at not wanting to miss out on a bit of gun and dragging their children along to places and situations that are patently unsuitable for them.
Wow. I'm sorry but I find this post rude, bitchy, selfish and most of all ignorant.
Wow. I'm sorry but I find this post rude, bitchy, selfish and most of all ignorant.
There are some awful posters on here towards any thread about children/babies. They have to jump on them all getting a kick in calling them brats and how they shouldn't be allowed in places they go. Personally I would just avoid child related threads if had such feelings towards them. The world is made up of children, without them none of us would be here, if there were no more we would all have a problem in old age. The majority are pretty decent, though like adults they come in all forms good, average and bad.
If your child is shaking, terrified, sitting under a table, unable to communicate, they could ask you to moon in the high street, you couldn't do it you have to focus on calming your child and ignoramuses making it worse doesn't help.
I feel sorry for their ignorance.
If the proprieter asks you to leave, you are required to leave. Your kid's distress is not their problem. Would you really just stay, effectively trespassing on premises you had been asked to leave, and watch the situation escalate? Because in those circumstances, I'd expect the management to call the police.
Bless your ignorance. A part of getting a child with a disabilty to understand how to behave is to expose them to that situation. How else do you teach them?
Again: that is your problem, it is not anyone else's. Your kid does not get a free pass to disrupt other people's lives and nor do you.
You certainly wouldn't be counting me within your social circle.
There is empathising with a child in distress because he/she has had a fright or accident or become separated from their parent/s and there is being expected to tolerate children's behaviour by parents who are deluded enough to think that their children really are the most important things to ever breathe.
It isn't any one's duty to tolerate the bad behaviour of someone else's child.
If that is due to a disability, the parents shouldn't put the child in a stressful situation. Too often it's the parent/s' sheer selfishness at not wanting to miss out on a bit of gun and dragging their children along to places and situations that are patently unsuitable for them.
Again: that is your problem, it is not anyone else's. Your kid does not get a free pass to disrupt other people's lives and nor do you.
A child hiding under a table in distress would actually disrupt your life? I can understand people being annoyed with kids running around and making a noise, that wasn't the situation in this case. I have a young child and hate to see and hear unruly children in public places, but I blame the parents for that.
Again: that is your problem, it is not anyone else's. Your kid does not get a free pass to disrupt other people's lives and nor do you.
How ridiculous it is hardly her fault or her childs fault this situation occured, heaven forbid this poster actually dares to inflict her disabled child on the rest of us...maybe she should just lock him in the cupboard and not let him see the light of day?? :rolleyes:
One would assume that at some point you yourself were a child and your parents took you out in public to eat...then again maybe they kept you inside never to socialise with other people at all, that would perhaps go some way to explaining your lack of empathy, understanding and social awareness.
A child hiding under a table in distress would actually disrupt your life? I can understand people being annoyed with kids running around and making a noise, that wasn't the situation in this case. I have a young child and hate to see and hear unruly children in public places, but I blame the parents for that.
Sometimes you know it is not just a case of being annoyed. I had a near break down a few years ago - actually 7 years to be precise - this was bought on by excessive noise from my next door neighbours children. It started off as an annoyance but over the years it built until one easter I just snapped into an anxiety led depression which meant for a period of time I was unable to live in my house. Yes this might seem excessive but without medical aid basically these kids would have driven me to a suicidal state, I have since moved.
To a large extend i have recovered but one thing I have feared up to this year is going to a restaurant and being faced with unruly kids, on a number of occasions i have had to leave as the noise induced anxiety. I guess this is my problem not someone elses but I think parents can be oblivious to the distress that noisy children can cause or really actually dont care.
Sometimes you know it is not just a case of being annoyed. I had a near break down a few years ago - actually 7 years to be precise - this was bought on by excessive noise from my next door neighbours children. It started off as an annoyance but over the years it built until one easter I just snapped into an anxiety led depression which meant for a period of time I was unable to live in my house. Yes this might seem excessive but without medical aid basically these kids would have driven me to a suicidal state, I have since moved.
To a large extend i have recovered but one thing I have feared up to this year is going to a restaurant and being faced with unruly kids, on a number of occasions i have had to leave as the noise induced anxiety. I guess this is my problem not someone elses but I think parents can be oblivious to the distress that noisy children can cause or really actually dont care.
While that is awful when you get neighbours like that, it can happen with adults living next door partying every night etc. If children are constantly bad behaved that is also the fault of the parents.
It's also not easy when you have young children and a bunch of twenty somethings making a noise until 3/4am, I have been on that side of the fence for a short while.
While that is awful when you get neighbours like that, it can happen with adults living next door partying every night etc. If children are constantly bad behaved that is also the fault of the parents.
It's also not easy when you have young children and a bunch of twenty somethings making a noise until 3/4am, I have been on that side of the fence for a short while.
I agree that yes the anxiety could quite easily have been caused by adult neighbours, but it was not. My contribution is not designed to have a go at kids and I certainly don't hate children. Its just to say that for some, such as myself and because of what happened, when I am faced by excessive kiddie noise I experience a physical reaction, adrenalin rush, fast heart beat and other symptoms simular to a panic attack, it is just not a case of being annoyed. As I say things are a lot better now and I do avoid going to restaurants at busy times as I know i would not enjoy it.
If your child is shaking, terrified, sitting under a table, unable to communicate, they could ask you to moon in the high street, you couldn't do it you have to focus on calming your child and ignoramuses making it worse doesn't help.
I feel sorry for their ignorance.
No, you're the ignorant one. You think everyone else should suffer just so you can take your child out. If the child is disabled you should adapt your life to cope with that, not expect everyone else to adapt for you.
Sometimes you know it is not just a case of being annoyed. I had a near break down a few years ago - actually 7 years to be precise - this was bought on by excessive noise from my next door neighbours children. It started off as an annoyance but over the years it built until one easter I just snapped into an anxiety led depression which meant for a period of time I was unable to live in my house. Yes this might seem excessive but without medical aid basically these kids would have driven me to a suicidal state, I have since moved.
To a large extend i have recovered but one thing I have feared up to this year is going to a restaurant and being faced with unruly kids, on a number of occasions i have had to leave as the noise induced anxiety. I guess this is my problem not someone elses but I think parents can be oblivious to the distress that noisy children can cause or really actually dont care.
I sympathize. I do understand exactly what you're saying-I ended up on tranquilizers myself a few years back because of the actions of a group of neighbours' kids. The parents had no interest in doing anything about it, just let them run riot.
No, you're the ignorant one. You think everyone else should suffer just so you can take your child out. If the child is disabled you should adapt your life to cope with that, not expect everyone else to adapt for you.
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You certainly wouldn't be counting me within your social circle.
There is empathising with a child in distress because he/she has had a fright or accident or become separated from their parent/s and there is being expected to tolerate children's behaviour by parents who are deluded enough to think that their children really are the most important things to ever breathe.
It isn't any one's duty to tolerate the bad behaviour of someone else's child.
If that is due to a disability, the parents shouldn't put the child in a stressful situation. Too often it's the parent/s' sheer selfishness at not wanting to miss out on a bit of gun and dragging their children along to places and situations that are patently unsuitable for them.
Of course because Maccy D's causes OCD and autism. You are so intelligent.x
If your child is shaking, terrified, sitting under a table, unable to communicate, they could ask you to moon in the high street, you couldn't do it you have to focus on calming your child and ignoramuses making it worse doesn't help.
I feel sorry for their ignorance.
Of course. A treat.
My 80 year old grandfather, never saw a MacDonald's, or any fast food outlet actually, till he was in his 60s and loved it the first time he tasted it. It is a treat, high in sugar and salt and fat.
I have absolutely no problem with eating MacDonald's once in a while, their products are actually much better quality controlled than a lot of so called chain "restaurants" that do not want to be associated with the fast food brand.
Bless your ignorance. A part of getting a child with a disabilty to understand how to behave is to expose them to that situation. How else do you teach them?
There are still a few as ignorant as you. I pity your ignorance, I also envy your ignorance as you've never had to meet reality of mental health. I hope you never do too
If you are claiming to be mentally sound, yet to go to restaurants where they welcome children, perhaps you should question your own decision making abilities,
Wow. I'm sorry but I find this post rude, bitchy, selfish and most of all ignorant.
There are some awful posters on here towards any thread about children/babies. They have to jump on them all getting a kick in calling them brats and how they shouldn't be allowed in places they go. Personally I would just avoid child related threads if had such feelings towards them. The world is made up of children, without them none of us would be here, if there were no more we would all have a problem in old age. The majority are pretty decent, though like adults they come in all forms good, average and bad.
Again: that is your problem, it is not anyone else's. Your kid does not get a free pass to disrupt other people's lives and nor do you.
Absolutely true. Well said.
A child hiding under a table in distress would actually disrupt your life? I can understand people being annoyed with kids running around and making a noise, that wasn't the situation in this case. I have a young child and hate to see and hear unruly children in public places, but I blame the parents for that.
How ridiculous it is hardly her fault or her childs fault this situation occured, heaven forbid this poster actually dares to inflict her disabled child on the rest of us...maybe she should just lock him in the cupboard and not let him see the light of day?? :rolleyes:
One would assume that at some point you yourself were a child and your parents took you out in public to eat...then again maybe they kept you inside never to socialise with other people at all, that would perhaps go some way to explaining your lack of empathy, understanding and social awareness.
Sometimes you know it is not just a case of being annoyed. I had a near break down a few years ago - actually 7 years to be precise - this was bought on by excessive noise from my next door neighbours children. It started off as an annoyance but over the years it built until one easter I just snapped into an anxiety led depression which meant for a period of time I was unable to live in my house. Yes this might seem excessive but without medical aid basically these kids would have driven me to a suicidal state, I have since moved.
To a large extend i have recovered but one thing I have feared up to this year is going to a restaurant and being faced with unruly kids, on a number of occasions i have had to leave as the noise induced anxiety. I guess this is my problem not someone elses but I think parents can be oblivious to the distress that noisy children can cause or really actually dont care.
While that is awful when you get neighbours like that, it can happen with adults living next door partying every night etc. If children are constantly bad behaved that is also the fault of the parents.
It's also not easy when you have young children and a bunch of twenty somethings making a noise until 3/4am, I have been on that side of the fence for a short while.
I agree that yes the anxiety could quite easily have been caused by adult neighbours, but it was not. My contribution is not designed to have a go at kids and I certainly don't hate children. Its just to say that for some, such as myself and because of what happened, when I am faced by excessive kiddie noise I experience a physical reaction, adrenalin rush, fast heart beat and other symptoms simular to a panic attack, it is just not a case of being annoyed. As I say things are a lot better now and I do avoid going to restaurants at busy times as I know i would not enjoy it.
TGI fridays - give balloons
Sheesh.
No, you're the ignorant one. You think everyone else should suffer just so you can take your child out. If the child is disabled you should adapt your life to cope with that, not expect everyone else to adapt for you.