Dawn French looking amazing

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 222
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    Theres also several articles this week in magazines which have interviews with Dawn where she quite catagorically denies having surgery. I dont think anyone in the public eye would do that if they could be proved to be lying, not when they know the consquences.

    I for one would believe that rather than the way someone has interpreted the non comment of someone at a weight loss clinic
  • NinnididdioNinnididdio Posts: 24
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    Kedece wrote: »
    I Dawn must know shes actually very well regarded and must know that lying would totally change that,

    It is entirely bbecause she is so highly regarded, with it seems 90% of the population being in love with her, that she knows they will swallow anything she says.

    And if anyone dares query it (like me and Hot Gossip and a few others a few pages earlier on this thread) all the Dawn lovers will simply coo, "Ahhhh but she's lovely / sweet / a wonderful comedian -- why not let her be" ......

    ..... or the other favourite shibboleth of Dawn's Love-Mobile"Oh but does it matter how she achieved it?" (i.e Dawny wawny is *sooooo* utterly lovely that I/we the aforementioned smitten British public don't really care, and don't want to believe that Dawny Wawny could possibly wossibly have lied ..... and won't hear a negative word said against Saint Dawn.

    I give up.

    Carry on believing what you want (e.g. possibly also that Santa exists and the Emperor's New Clothes were made of silk) because I am sure it will all come out in the wash / press eventually.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 222
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    And if does come out that she has then I'll be the first to come back here and apologise to you but until then I personally am going to believe 'Saint Dawn'. Innocent til proved guilty....
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 25
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    It is entirely bbecause she is so highly regarded, with it seems 90% of the population being in love with her, that she knows they will swallow anything she says.

    And if anyone dares query it (like me and Hot Gossip and a few others a few pages earlier on this thread) all the Dawn lovers will simply coo, "Ahhhh but she's lovely / sweet / a wonderful comedian -- why not let her be" ......

    ..... or the other favourite shibboleth of Dawn's Love-Mobile"Oh but does it matter how she achieved it?" (i.e Dawny wawny is *sooooo* utterly lovely that I/we the aforementioned smitten British public don't really care, and don't want to believe that Dawny Wawny could possibly wossibly have lied ..... and won't hear a negative word said against Saint Dawn.

    I give up.

    Carry on believing what you want (e.g. possibly also that Santa exists and the Emperor's New Clothes were made of silk) because I am sure it will all come out in the wash / press eventually.

    Actually I do not feel at all she is Saint Dawn, she is an actress/comedienne who has lost a lot of weight and looks terrific end of, I am merely saluting her achievement.

    I am sure that if it does all come out in the press you will be delighted but I suspect that even if you are proved correct that the majority of the UK public will simply say "and?" I really do not think it will hurt her career or standing in any way whatsoever....sorry.

    I am with Kedece on this one "Innocent til proved guilty"
  • SmiirkySmiirky Posts: 1,940
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    Ninnididdio you seem to have some sort of deep seeded hatred of Dawn for losing weight, maybe she was told she Had to do it, and she's done it..Who's business is it of yours to know how she did it? Fact is, she did, and she looks fabulous. So why don't you just take your cynicisms elsewhere because they certainly aren't needed here.
  • MinetteMinette Posts: 351
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    Personally I can't stand Dawn French and don't find her even slightly funny but how she lost weight is entirely her business. She looks miles better than she did.
  • jimbo23jimbo23 Posts: 1,509
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    I hate wat this threads become

    Dawn french, i have never met, i dont no her and i have no right to coment on her personal issues, however if she is reading this, i hope she nos that not everyone is as small minded as some of the people posting,

    Dawn has done amazing to loose weight, however shes done it,

    If its healthy eating and moving more, thats fantastic, if shes had surgery, thats great as well, fad diet? good for her, shes come a long long way and however shes done it, it couldnt have been easy, even with surgery you have to change your whole out look on food and eating habbits and the more extreme the worse it feels,

    she looks amazing and her struggle has paid off all te small minded people slagging somone off for doing somthing for herself, somthing to make her healthy and happy, im sorry but my advice to you is to go look in the mirror, find somthing you had a problem with about yourself, look at yourslef, now imagine, you worked on it, you changed it, and then everyone slagged you off about it.
  • NinnididdioNinnididdio Posts: 24
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    Smiirky wrote: »
    Ninnididdio you seem to have some sort of deep seeded hatred of Dawn for losing weight.

    That is absolutely not the case. Nor have I been "slagging" Dawn off for losing weight as some poster above says.

    You seem to all have brains like sieves and not have read ALL my posts.

    If you look again you will see several times I have said I do think it is FANTASTIC that Dawn has finally tackled her weight and health issues -- yes, she is looking wonderful and fabulous.

    I have never previously disliked Dawn -- I have always liked her comedy shows and The Vicar of Dibley.

    What I detest is dishonesty, but seeing as none of you seem to either (a) care whether Dawn has been dishonest or (b) believe me, I have now contacted a journalist.

    I did also offer (a few pages ago on this thread) to provide more info to anyone who wanted to "pm" me, but nobody did.

    And before you say "oh that's so nasty contacting a journalist" -- my whole point is I do happen to have very good information from a private clinic source that suggests with very high probability that Dawn did have surgery.

    I will now leave it to the journo to investigate further.

    My view is that it is *unfair* that Dawn seems to be "getting away with it" when Fern Britton and Anne Diamond did not.
  • The PrumeisterThe Prumeister Posts: 22,398
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    That is absolutely not the case. Nor have I been "slagging" Dawn off for losing weight as some poster above says.

    You seem to all have brains like sieves and not have read ALL my posts.

    If you look again you will see several times I have said I do think it is FANTASTIC that Dawn has finally tackled her weight and health issues -- yes, she is looking wonderful and fabulous.

    I have never previously disliked Dawn -- I have always liked her comedy shows and The Vicar of Dibley.

    What I detest is dishonesty, but seeing as none of you seem to either (a) care whether Dawn has been dishonest or (b) believe me, I have now contacted a journalist.

    I did also offer (a few pages ago on this thread) to provide more info to anyone who wanted to "pm" me, but nobody did.

    And before you say "oh that's so nasty contacting a journalist" -- my whole point is I do happen to have very good information from a private clinic source that suggests with very high probability that Dawn did have surgery.

    I will now leave it to the journo to investigate further.

    My view is that it is *unfair* that Dawn seems to be "getting away with it" when Fern Britton and Anne Diamond did not.



    Fern Britton was advertising ryvita at the time and actually misled people into thinking she had lost the weight naturally. Diamond was taking part in 'Celebrity Fat Club' and being entirely disingenuous about her weight loss - she cheated on the programme. This is why Britton and Diamond didn't 'get away with it'.

    Dawn French has never been the face of a diet food (the concept would be farcical) and I can't stand her - and think she was hideously obese. However, she has now lost weight and good on her. she's not advertising a product to make us think she did it using that so as far as i'm concerned it's her business. With respect, i don't think people really care that you have 'contacted a journalist'. it's a complete non story.
  • NinnididdioNinnididdio Posts: 24
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    Granted, Dawn has never advertised any slimming product but she was for 20 years the media's "poster girl" for "fat is fabulous" and put her name to products that would endorse being larger is OK: Big Knits, Sixteen47 and Terry's Choc Oranges.

    In addition to that Dawn was quoted frequently at length about how dieting / starving yourself is BAD and it is possible to be fat, and fit, and healthy .....

    An example follows:
    http://dawnfrench.tripod.com/big.html

    And this, by the way, is how she lost weight prior to her marriage: "Dawn’s size dropped from a size 18 to a size 12 in eight weeks, with help from a Harley Street 'quack' "

    and Dawn's quote about that particular diet:
    "They take all your money for you to buy these products and you lose a lot of weight very fast. Then of course when you put it on, you put on much more than you ever were before. ....... [SNIP]....... So we’re paying for them to destroy our bodies, because we’re not allowed to feel happy with the size we are"

    AND

    “But look how unhealthy skinny women are!” Dawn argues, "you can’t say that women are unhealthy just because they’re big. It is possible to be fat and healthy.”
    Ending on a positive note, Dawn told of how her daughter has recently become interested in her own self image, and likes to take her clothes off and look at herself in the mirror. She'd look herself up and down, and then one day she said "Oh, I hope I get fat soon". Dawn glowed at this point, saying "It was so great, that she can value me as her fat mum".
  • SmiirkySmiirky Posts: 1,940
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    Why don't you just let it go? Whether she has been honest or dishonest she looks fantastic, just be happy for her either way!
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    Minette wrote: »
    Personally I can't stand Dawn French and don't find her even slightly funny but how she lost weight is entirely her business. She looks miles better than she did.

    I agree. I find her as funny as toothache but I think she looks so much better for her weight loss. She's not exactly starved herself to Posh Spice size anyway. She's still a larger lady but a much smaller and healthier one. Good for her
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 25
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    Granted, Dawn has never advertised any slimming product but she was for 20 years the media's "poster girl" for "fat is fabulous" and put her name to products that would endorse being larger is OK: Big Knits, Sixteen47 and Terry's Choc Oranges.

    In addition to that Dawn was quoted frequently at length about how dieting / starving yourself is BAD and it is possible to be fat, and fit, and healthy .....

    An example follows:
    http://dawnfrench.tripod.com/big.html

    And this, by the way, is how she lost weight prior to her marriage: "Dawn’s size dropped from a size 18 to a size 12 in eight weeks, with help from a Harley Street 'quack' "

    and Dawn's quote about that particular diet:

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    “But look how unhealthy skinny women are!” Dawn argues, "you can’t say that women are unhealthy just because they’re big. It is possible to be fat and healthy.”

    So which version did you give to your Journo?

    The one you posted on the WL surgery Forum http://www.wlsurgery.com/chit-chat/141605-dawn-french-6-stone-weight-loss-2.html (Which I suppose kinds of explains why you are like a dog with a bone about this!)

    "A friend PM'd me on Facebook with this: “I saw some comments on a forum about DF – a clinic or hospital employee referring to her “bariatric surgery earlier this year” The thread has since been deleted.”

    Or the version you have posted on here;

    "I am 99.99999% certain that she has and her press agent Neil Reading has, based on a very strong wink and nudge I have had from someone who works for a particular private clinic which specialises in bariatric surgery."

    If you want the details PM me because I am not about to name the person / clinic on here on a public forum .... I am sure some savvy journo person will get wind of it eventually and then Dawn will have made the situation 10 times worse for herself, by not being open and honest from the start, exactly the same as Fern Britton."


    Interestingly most of the posters on the WLS forum are also saying "it is only her business how she has done it and well done".

    Ok enough now lets get this thread back to the intention of the OP

    Dawn you look fantastic, well done, enjoy your life.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 189
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    Kedece wrote: »
    Theres also several articles this week in magazines which have interviews with Dawn where she quite catagorically denies having surgery. I dont think anyone in the public eye would do that if they could be proved to be lying, not when they know the consquences.

    But all of you who keep saying:

    "It's nobody's business but Dawn's how she lost the weight"

    have missed the point -- if Dawn chooses to go on national TV (This Morning) and talk about her weight loss in the papers and magazines then she *makes* it everyone's business (especially the press) -- it is Dawn herself bringing it into the public domain.
  • casualviewercasualviewer Posts: 31,446
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    Granted, Dawn has never advertised any slimming product but she was for 20 years the media's "poster girl" for "fat is fabulous" and put her name to products that would endorse being larger is OK: Big Knits, Sixteen47 and Terry's Choc Oranges.

    In addition to that Dawn was quoted frequently at length about how dieting / starving yourself is BAD and it is possible to be fat, and fit, and healthy .....

    You know, people are allowed to change their minds as years pass, and progress with their lives.

    I mean, when I was young I used to think if you swallowed a watermelon seed a watermelon would grow in your stomach.
  • NancyPantsNancyPants Posts: 2
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    jimbo23 wrote: »
    if shes had surgery, thats great as well? good for her.

    I agree. I am a strong advocate for Weight Loss Surgery as the detective work of Tulips1706 has already proved. However, I have been 100% open and honest about it and told everyone from the start.

    And before you say (again) "Well if Dawn has had WLS then it should be her private business" -- also fine if she was going to say nothing, and just stay schtum. But she has decided to go on national TV and be interviewed in newspapers saying that it *is* all due to just moderate eating and a bit of extra walking etc etc which is where Dawn herself brings the subject of *how* she achieved the weight loss into the public arena.
    jimbo23 wrote: »
    my advice to you is to go look in the mirror, find somthing you had a problem with about yourself, look at yourslef, now imagine, you worked on it, you changed it, and then everyone slagged you off about it.

    As you will already know from the detective work of Tulips1706 I am obese and have chosen the surgery route, I have just been 100% honest about it.
  • mumbles26mumbles26 Posts: 5,765
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    I couldn't give a flying frog how Dawn has lost so much weight,

    I just think good on her, she looks fabulous and she has me in hysterics sometimes.

    I think she's great - fat, thin, tall, short or whatever.
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    Kedece wrote: »
    Theres also several articles this week in magazines which have interviews with Dawn where she quite catagorically denies having surgery. I dont think anyone in the public eye would do that if they could be proved to be lying, not when they know the consquences.

    Well, out of curiosity and in the name of actually bothering to check the facts, I went to my local WHS this morning and I only found 2 magazines about Dawn's weight loss: Bella and Woman. (If you know of any others do tell.)

    1. Bella's piece appears to be something they have cobbled together based on quotes only from Jennifer Saunders and Michael Buble. Bella also have Dawn at size 12 and say that Dawn has: "been spending time with her secret new boyfriend".

    2. Woman magazine has Dawn as now being size 14 and says there is no new man in her life:
    "Dawn's been doing this for her - not for a new man, there has never been a new man. That's rubbish," says our source. "And she wants everyone to know she's definitely not had a gastric band".

    Indeed Woman have titled their whole article "Gastric band? What gastric band?"

    This is so hilarious!

    Because, yes, that is true: she has not had a gastric band -- but she may have had a full gastric bypass !!!

    It's so easy to "lie by omission" -- by not actually answering the relevant question -- and offering up great big denials about NOT having had a gastric band. Because, of course, we all know now that Fern Britton, Anne Diamond and Vanessa Feltz *do* have bands, so they are the surgery option most often talked about.

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  • Mo@realityMo@reality Posts: 860
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    NancyPants wrote: »
    As you will already know from the detective work of Tulips1706 I am obese and have chosen the surgery route, I have just been 100% honest about it.

    Are you this Ninnididdio character?:confused:

    Anyway, I too also opted for weight loss surgery but I was not honest about it. At the time when I was going for the preliminery checks and discussions with the doctor and weight loss team I felt uncomfortable with everyone knowing this. Mainly because the guy I worked for was of the view that people should "eat less and move more simple as". I simply wasn't comfortable being judged.

    As it turns out the more I heard about the operation I decided it wasn't for me and as fate would have it my PCT wasn't given funding so no-one got it anyway.

    It seems to me that you have now also been outed on this thread as having WLS as you hadn't mentioned it before. Seems you have some pyschological issues that might need attending to before you go through with a serious operation like bariatric surgery. Why you can't just be pleased for Dawn French, who I imagine you have never met and only know through characters on tv, I do not understand.

    As someone else says, you seem to have a deep seated hatred for the woman. Or is it jealousy because she may have succeeded where you can't?
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    JBag wrote: »
    Well, out of curiosity and in the name of actually bothering to check the facts, I went to my local WHS this morning and I only found 2 magazines about Dawn's weight loss: Bella and Woman. (If you know of any others do tell.)

    1. Bella's piece appears to be something they have cobbled together based on quotes only from Jennifer Saunders and Michael Buble. Bella also have Dawn at size 12 and say that Dawn has: "been spending time with her secret new boyfriend".

    2. Woman magazine has Dawn as now being size 14 and says there is no new man in her life:



    Indeed Woman have titled their whole article "Gastric band? What gastric band?"

    This is so hilarious!

    Because, yes, that is true: she has not had a gastric band -- but she may have had a full gastric bypass !!!

    It's so easy to "lie by omission" -- by not actually answering the relevant question -- and offering up great big denials about NOT having had a gastric band. Because, of course, we all know now that Fern Britton, Anne Diamond and Vanessa Feltz *do* have bands, so they are the surgery option most often talked about.

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    Yes and she also may not have done there is no proof at all apart from someone allegedly having a nudge nudge wink wink conversation.

    Both of these articles have in all probability been as you say "cobbled together" by the magazines with no actual input from the lady herself.

    Anyhow as our Resident PI has now been to talk to a Journalist:rolleyes: the whole matter will no doubt be put to rest soon one way or the other. If it does come out that Dawn has had surgery then she will breathe a sigh of relief as it will be proved that you can not lose weight by cutting down on food intake and excercising alone phew:rolleyes:

    I am guessing that the rest of the population will not give a monkeys as long as she paid for it herself and it was not on the NHS.

    But hey lets not stand in the way of a good scandal and the chance to bring someone down who has actually done something for themselves. I get the feeling some people will not be satisfied until Ms French has been put in the village stocks and pilloried with cream buns until she is back to her old weight again so they can all say "I knew she would never keep it up"

    Maybe it is because Dawn has always been the "acceptable" face of overweight in the British Media some people feel she has let them down badly by losing the weight and the thought of her actually doing it by eating sensibly and moving more "ohhh how very dare she"
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 13
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    Some really horrible comments in this thread. Dawn hasn't said how she has lost the weight so some assume she's following some faddy diet or had surgery. Why can it not be hard work? At the start of July I was a size 24/26 and 17 1/2 stone. Way way to big. I didn't join Weightwatchers/slimming world/ lighterlife but started to eat carefully and exercise. Today's weigh in put me at over a 4 stone loss. I feel great, run 3 times a week with daily strength training and the weight is still falling off at a good rate. It's not easy but it can be done without "cheating"
  • Mo@realityMo@reality Posts: 860
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    siren1974 wrote: »
    Some really horrible comments in this thread. Dawn hasn't said how she has lost the weight so some assume she's following some faddy diet or had surgery. Why can it not be hard work? At the start of July I was a size 24/26 and 17 1/2 stone. Way way to big. I didn't join Weightwatchers/slimming world/ lighterlife but started to eat carefully and exercise. Today's weigh in put me at over a 4 stone loss. I feel great, run 3 times a week with daily strength training and the weight is still falling off at a good rate. It's not easy but it can be done without "cheating"

    Well done and good for you!
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    siren1974 wrote: »
    Some really horrible comments in this thread. Dawn hasn't said how she has lost the weight so some assume she's following some faddy diet or had surgery. Why can it not be hard work? At the start of July I was a size 24/26 and 17 1/2 stone. Way way to big. I didn't join Weightwatchers/slimming world/ lighterlife but started to eat carefully and exercise. Today's weigh in put me at over a 4 stone loss. I feel great, run 3 times a week with daily strength training and the weight is still falling off at a good rate. It's not easy but it can be done without "cheating"

    thats all well and good while your in the mood to loose weight.....(as someone who has been down this road all his life and is on the waiting list to have a gastric bypass)....you like 99.9% of big eaters will put more weight back on +more, when you get back into your old habits......enjoy the fact that you can get into all your wardrobe now though.
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    m1pnk wrote: »
    thats all well and good while your in the mood to loose weight.....(as someone who has been down this road all his life and is on the waiting list to have a gastric bypass)....you like 99.9% of big eaters will put more weight back on +more, when you get back into your old habits......enjoy the fact that you can get into all your wardrobe now though.

    Yes I'm a yo yo dieter, this isn't the first time I've done this. I moved to a new area and had a baby. Both very isolating so the weight piled back on. Now the little one is in nursery I had the time to get back to myself, no more excuses for me.

    ps. didn't put more weight back on this time. It's a lifestyle change. I'm not a big eater, just one that eats when I'm bored. Exercise is the key, not the food
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    siren1974 wrote: »
    Dawn hasn't said how she has lost the weight so some assume she's following some faddy diet or had surgery.

    I think she has, although not (directly herself) in the articles in Bella and Woman that I picked up today. (Altho there are lots of quotes from her PR agent, Neil Reading, in the Woman article including the denial that a "gastric band" was involved.)

    I think she was interviewed on This Morning in July and may have mentioned it:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnyMJdJEa10&feature=related

    Apologies if her weight loss is not mentioned in those 9 minutes. YouTube keeps cutting out for me at 2 mins !!
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