No, he shouldn't - however if negotiations don't go as smoothly as the Yes campaign claim they will and if what is agreed on is vastly different to the White Paper. Then I do think there would be a case of it going back to the people to decide.
A "replay" would probably be the fairest solution to that. It would be interesting to see if this "high engagement level" held up for that due to the passion aroused by such a move, or if people became more disillusioned because of it.
According to reports on twitter, it seems the Union Flag was ripped off the Cenotaph and burnt. Yes stickers were put onto the Cenotaph where the flag was. I can't believe this is what people have sunk too, the future of Scotland.
I would need more evidence before I could believe this , if we are to go on the photo on twitter , there is no sign of a flag being burned , yet there is a policeman right in front of what seems a goodnatured crowd .
The police have stated the event went off without incident .
BTW, another tweeter has said they have walked past the Cenotaph , on the way to work , for the past 15 years , they claim there is no Union flag there to tear down .
I'm not sure if that's true or not , I don't live in Glasgow .
If Yes wins it won't be long before Yes voters are disappointed! When the promises of the SNP aren't fulfilled, like when they don't get currency union and continuing membership of the EU for a start, they are going to be angrily demanding an explanation from Slamond and co. I don't want Scotland to leave the UK, as I'm an Englishman who likes Scotland and have had many Scots friends over the years, though I do accept it's the Scots right to decide. And if the majority vote Yes, it will be interesting to hear the excuses of the SNP as to why they can't deliver their promises. I expect they've got those excuses ready.
They were probably drafted around the same time as "The Vow".
Cameron does need his arse kicked for such persistently bad judgement on major issues. He's a PR man with no real direction of his own.
If it's a narrow YES, by less than 1%, is it a big enough mandate for tearing up the nation, especially when you consider that England, Wales and Northern Ireland, all of whom oppose Scottish independence, didn't get a say.
Cameron has a dreadful record of poor judgement, from Syria, Ukraine and also Scotland.
If it's an extremely narrow YES vote by less than 1%, should Cameron block Scottish independence?
The English do have a long record of ignoring democratic votes.
The most apt example being the rejection of Irish Home Rule.
Scots should be prepared for a battle, the English establishment are snakes and liars.
Daughter is worried sick about it, she is a no voter. Son lives in London and gutted he cannot vote no and getting abuse . Son in Barbados also gutted he cannot vote no. Youngest daughter is worried about the backlash against no voters by the yes.
My friend's new flatmate is Lithuanian and has recently arrived in this country and has a vote.
That's just wrong when compared to people like your kids.
Everything about this referendum has been so poorly considered.
A "replay" would probably be the fairest solution to that. It would be interesting to see if this "high engagement level" held up for that due to the passion aroused by such a move, or if people became more disillusioned because of it.
Would there be some voter fatigue?
we get to vote on the new constitution. if the negotiations havent went well, i dont see it passing
If it's a narrow YES, by less than 1%, is it a big enough mandate for tearing up the nation, especially when you consider that England, Wales and Northern Ireland, all of whom oppose Scottish independence, didn't get a say.
Cameron has a dreadful record of poor judgement, from Syria, Ukraine and also Scotland.
Seeing Brown today made me realise how much of a mistake we made in kicking him out. I've never seen Cameron, Clegg or Blair put in such a performance.
Hypothetical question:
If it's an extremely narrow YES vote by less than 1%, should Cameron block Scottish independence?
If it;s so close there has to be a recount the tension will be unbearable!
The English do have a long record of ignoring democratic votes.
The most apt example being the rejection of Irish Home Rule.
Scots should be prepared for a battle, the English establishment are snakes and liars.
If you want to go to events of the past, the Scottish people were betrayed by the Scottish aristocracy at the time of the Act of Union and the clearances, not by England.
I've just googled images of Glasgow Cenotaph.
None of these pictures show any flags at all on the Cenotaph , Union or otherwise .
Not even at the Remembrance Day Parade .
Scotland has to face up to and apologise for, it's part in Empire
all of history, we have been on the right side once.
probably about the first thing I've came close to agreeing with you on
been a lot of talk about all the previous countries that sought and won independence from the UK , one of the key differences between them and Scotland has always been however that none of those countries chose to be part of the UK , and Scotland was very much part of them becoming part of it in the first place
The British Army has never had any trouble recruiting Irish citizens to fight our wars for us, even when those masterminds in Dublin made it a criminal offence for them to do so. Should Scotland choose independence, the UK will continue to recruit as many Scots as she wants.
But in the meantime, thankyou Ireland!
Hey, my grandfather managed to fight for the British in both world wars. He was fourteen when he was sent to the front in 1918. He was told his small nation, Ireland, would be granted freedom at the end of the war. We will always have young men who are prepared to fight for a perceived freedom.
Your comment about the Irish making it illegal for citizens to join the British forces is an utter, despicable lie. But no different to the lies being fed to the Scottish people even as we speak.
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A "replay" would probably be the fairest solution to that. It would be interesting to see if this "high engagement level" held up for that due to the passion aroused by such a move, or if people became more disillusioned because of it.
Would there be some voter fatigue?
I would need more evidence before I could believe this , if we are to go on the photo on twitter , there is no sign of a flag being burned , yet there is a policeman right in front of what seems a goodnatured crowd .
The police have stated the event went off without incident .
BTW, another tweeter has said they have walked past the Cenotaph , on the way to work , for the past 15 years , they claim there is no Union flag there to tear down .
I'm not sure if that's true or not , I don't live in Glasgow .
They were probably drafted around the same time as "The Vow".
Cameron does need his arse kicked for such persistently bad judgement on major issues. He's a PR man with no real direction of his own.
The English do have a long record of ignoring democratic votes.
The most apt example being the rejection of Irish Home Rule.
Scots should be prepared for a battle, the English establishment are snakes and liars.
It's happened before. November 2013. http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/glasgow-station-war-memorial-s-union-flag-damaged-1-3214116
Do you have a link to the Twitter pictures?
My friend's new flatmate is Lithuanian and has recently arrived in this country and has a vote.
That's just wrong when compared to people like your kids.
Everything about this referendum has been so poorly considered.
we get to vote on the new constitution. if the negotiations havent went well, i dont see it passing
No supporters flying Yes banners and burning British flags is what i am hearing.
The only flag burners i am aware of are British orange order types...
Weak photographic "evidence" fails to justify your prejudiced assertions.
If it;s so close there has to be a recount the tension will be unbearable!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxwTTu9IYAANmcq.jpg
http://oi59.tinypic.com/2dhimhe.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wyx82UHEYg&feature=youtu.be
the Asian guy on the vid is all over the internet, a proud SDL member
I ask again how many Scots are forced to join the army?
If you want to go to events of the past, the Scottish people were betrayed by the Scottish aristocracy at the time of the Act of Union and the clearances, not by England.
Think again ;-)
http://i.imgur.com/eCyNLjd.jpg
nice to see your true colours finally come out
your stance has nothing to do with what is best for Scotland but just seeing it as sticking it to the English
Scotland has to face up to and apologise for, it's part in Empire
all of history, we have been on the right side once.
None of these pictures show any flags at all on the Cenotaph , Union or otherwise .
Not even at the Remembrance Day Parade .
probably about the first thing I've came close to agreeing with you on
been a lot of talk about all the previous countries that sought and won independence from the UK , one of the key differences between them and Scotland has always been however that none of those countries chose to be part of the UK , and Scotland was very much part of them becoming part of it in the first place
You're really struggling. Is there any sign of a BNP or EDL logo?
There also appears to be no sign of a nazi salute.
P.S. One still photograph has a bloke who might be doing one, but it's rather inconclusive.
Hey, my grandfather managed to fight for the British in both world wars. He was fourteen when he was sent to the front in 1918. He was told his small nation, Ireland, would be granted freedom at the end of the war. We will always have young men who are prepared to fight for a perceived freedom.
Your comment about the Irish making it illegal for citizens to join the British forces is an utter, despicable lie. But no different to the lies being fed to the Scottish people even as we speak.
Now that's conclusive.
ok,you win, these guys are yer regular BT crew, not a right wing thug anywhere in sight
I thought he was definitely doing one but now I'm not so sure. His hand is blurred, as if he's possibly waving to someone. It could be either
Oh Christ!
Another sectarian obsessive!
Is this a Scottish football forum or something?
It seems like it's littered with football hooligans.