Old people know that value of hard work saving pensions and have lifelong experience of budgeting and seeing all sorts of governments come and go. They are cautious and rightly so.
Young people generally aren't that interested in Politics so don't make an informed choice, so it doesn't surprise me that the figure is so high.
Old people however are far more likely to be interested in Politics and would be more involved in what is going to happen, they have knowledge on the issue and can use that to make an informed choice.
Ah.. so the 16 and 17 year old's, who, let's be honest, might still have Justin Beiber or Twilight posters on their bedroom wall, voted 71% in favour of yes.
Young people have nothing under our current political system so have nothing to lose.
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Nothing? They are amongst the richest 10% in the world, they get free food, clothing, healthcare, education, entertainment and housing. If they want any more, they have to work for it.
Or to put it another way, if voting had been restricted to adults the No margin would have been even larger. ;-)
Yes, and personally and many like me don't think the age should have been dropped to 16 to vote. Many at that age got utterly swept along with the hysteria of it all, they were all copying who their pals were voting for. I know a lot went to a flash mob in Aberdeen last Saturday.
Of course there is an amount who knew what they were voting for, but even then could they grasp the implications of that YES vote. Heard one girl say she was voting yes, because it looked like yes were going to have the bigger party:o:o
Young people generally aren't that interested in Politics so don't make an informed choice, so it doesn't surprise me that the figure is so high.
Old people however are far more likely to be interested in Politics and would be more involved in what is going to happen, they have knowledge on the issue and can use that to make an informed choice.
Men were also more likely to vote yes by some margin compared to women - yes were ahead in the final polls amongst men but way behind with women although who knows with the final vote.
Are you saying men are less informed about financial matters and jobs and the economy than women?
All this labelling is silly - young people are probably as well educated and informed as the elderly. They just think differently!
The experienced person saw through all the lies. They knew Scotland wouldnt remain in the EU, of have a currency and that Scots would lose their UK passport and free work and travel in the UK and EU. That prices would rise and jobs would be lost and that a yes vote would be the ruin of Scotland for future generations.
Or perhaps it was just that the older people are better at maths than many young Scots?
Then I hear of the 94 year old lady who is blind but walked down a fair bit to the centre of my town, (obviously with help) so that she could vote No as she was proud to be Scottish and British....makes you utter despair of the girl who was voting yes because she thought it would be a better party
Yes, and personally and many like me don't think the age should have been dropped to 16 to vote. Many at that age got utterly swept along with the hysteria of it all, they were all copying who their pals were voting for. I know a lot went to a flash mob in Aberdeen last Saturday.
Of course there is an amount who knew what they were voting for, but even then could they grasp the implications of that YES vote. Heard one girl say she was voting yes, because it looked like yes were going to have the bigger party:o:o
A lot of younger voters seemed to think that a Yes vote would have meant the immediate end of poverty in Scotland and a No vote the immediate privatisation of the NHS. They're not in the real world at that age.
Then I hear of the 94 year old lady who is blind but walked down a fair bit to the centre of my town, (obviously with help) so that she could vote No as she was proud to be Scottish and British....makes you utter despair of the girl who was voting yes because she thought it would be a better party
I saw a tweet yesterday saying that there was to be a big party in the town centre of Dundee and that was a good reason to vote yes!
A lot of younger voters seemed to think that a Yes vote would have meant the immediate end of poverty in Scotland and a No vote the immediate privatisation of the NHS. They're not in the real world at that age.
Yes, I'd say most I spoke to mentioned food banks privatising NHS and getting rid of the Tories/Westminster and it was on repeat
Oh and I forgot...a vision and a fairer Scotland and hope.....all good and fair enough, but it would say to them if our economy crashes hope ain't going to pay my shopping.... They would just shake there heads and think I've no heart .
Re. stats; good, that's how it should be. As Churchill wisely observed (I'm paraphrasing), the young think with their hearts, the old with their heads.
Important thing here, they are young. They are the future of Scotland. All those old no voters are dying off. It doesn't make Scottish loyalty to the UK in the future seem exactly brighter.
I saw a tweet yesterday saying that there was to be a big party in the town centre of Dundee and that was a good reason to vote yes!
Yes that wouldn't surprise me, people like that here too.....Scarily . One party that I did hear was cancelled was a party at Strichen Aberdeenshire...Alex Salmonds constituency just down the road from me. We heard this pretty early on well the back of midnight, so it made me a wee bit optimistic ...just a wee bit ... At that point
Yes, I'd say most I spoke to mentioned food banks privatising NHS and getting rid of the Tories/Westminster and it was on repeat
Oh and I forgot...a vision and a fairer Scotland and hope.....all good and fair enough, but it would say to them if our economy crashes hope ain't going to pay my shopping.... They would just shake there heads and think I've no heart .
Yeah it does seem like food banks were a huge issue for the younger voters. Although I can't recall too much focus on them in the main campaign itself.
Important thing here, they are young. They are the future of Scotland. All those old no voters are dying off. It doesn't make Scottish loyalty to the UK in the future seem exactly brighter.
As I said they are not all like that but most of the ones I know of or have heard of were honestly following their mates ...if they were voting yes, then their whole group were.
Important thing here, they are young. They are the future of Scotland. All those old no voters are dying off. It doesn't make Scottish loyalty to the UK in the future seem exactly brighter.
Half of them didn't know what they were doing. You just had to read Twitter to see this and a lot of them were quoted by someone as saying they were voting YES because they wanted a huge party.
No thought on what the economical effects would have been as they don't pay tax. Once they earn money things become different.
Nothing? They are amongst the richest 10% in the world, they get free food, clothing, healthcare, education, entertainment and housing. If they want any more, they have to work for it.
Important thing here, they are young. They are the future of Scotland. All those old no voters are dying off. It doesn't make Scottish loyalty to the UK in the future seem exactly brighter.
Who's insulting them? I was exactly the same at that age, a naive leftist. There's no shame in it.
I don't think loyalty had too much to do with it, the younger voters seem to have voted Yes more for socialism rather than nationalism.
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Old people know that value of hard work saving pensions and have lifelong experience of budgeting and seeing all sorts of governments come and go. They are cautious and rightly so.
The elderly have it all relatively in terms of housing, pensions, freebies and more so have lots to lose.
Pretty much it really!
Old people however are far more likely to be interested in Politics and would be more involved in what is going to happen, they have knowledge on the issue and can use that to make an informed choice.
Interesting.
And this is the reason why Salmond wanted 16 & 17 year olds to be eligible to vote!
Nothing? They are amongst the richest 10% in the world, they get free food, clothing, healthcare, education, entertainment and housing. If they want any more, they have to work for it.
Yes, and personally and many like me don't think the age should have been dropped to 16 to vote. Many at that age got utterly swept along with the hysteria of it all, they were all copying who their pals were voting for. I know a lot went to a flash mob in Aberdeen last Saturday.
Of course there is an amount who knew what they were voting for, but even then could they grasp the implications of that YES vote. Heard one girl say she was voting yes, because it looked like yes were going to have the bigger party:o:o
Men were also more likely to vote yes by some margin compared to women - yes were ahead in the final polls amongst men but way behind with women although who knows with the final vote.
Are you saying men are less informed about financial matters and jobs and the economy than women?
All this labelling is silly - young people are probably as well educated and informed as the elderly. They just think differently!
They think differently because they are not paying taxes. Once they start doing that, their opinions will change.
The experienced person saw through all the lies. They knew Scotland wouldnt remain in the EU, of have a currency and that Scots would lose their UK passport and free work and travel in the UK and EU. That prices would rise and jobs would be lost and that a yes vote would be the ruin of Scotland for future generations.
Or perhaps it was just that the older people are better at maths than many young Scots?
A lot of younger voters seemed to think that a Yes vote would have meant the immediate end of poverty in Scotland and a No vote the immediate privatisation of the NHS. They're not in the real world at that age.
I saw a tweet yesterday saying that there was to be a big party in the town centre of Dundee and that was a good reason to vote yes!
Yes, I'd say most I spoke to mentioned food banks privatising NHS and getting rid of the Tories/Westminster and it was on repeat
Oh and I forgot...a vision and a fairer Scotland and hope.....all good and fair enough, but it would say to them if our economy crashes hope ain't going to pay my shopping.... They would just shake there heads and think I've no heart .
Important thing here, they are young. They are the future of Scotland. All those old no voters are dying off. It doesn't make Scottish loyalty to the UK in the future seem exactly brighter.
Yes that wouldn't surprise me, people like that here too.....Scarily . One party that I did hear was cancelled was a party at Strichen Aberdeenshire...Alex Salmonds constituency just down the road from me. We heard this pretty early on well the back of midnight, so it made me a wee bit optimistic ...just a wee bit ... At that point
Yeah it does seem like food banks were a huge issue for the younger voters. Although I can't recall too much focus on them in the main campaign itself.
As I said they are not all like that but most of the ones I know of or have heard of were honestly following their mates ...if they were voting yes, then their whole group were.
Half of them didn't know what they were doing. You just had to read Twitter to see this and a lot of them were quoted by someone as saying they were voting YES because they wanted a huge party.
No thought on what the economical effects would have been as they don't pay tax. Once they earn money things become different.
Yes, but they take it all for granted.
Who's insulting them? I was exactly the same at that age, a naive leftist. There's no shame in it.
I don't think loyalty had too much to do with it, the younger voters seem to have voted Yes more for socialism rather than nationalism.