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  • kirbyreedkirbyreed Posts: 1,816
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    Still haven't got my notification. Does anybody know the latest date that I should get it by?
  • philenglandphilengland Posts: 8,176
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    kirbyreed wrote: »
    Still haven't got my notification. Does anybody know the latest date that I should get it by?
    same here - just be patient I guess, its gonna be about to get hold of for a year... looking at it, would rather wait to see if any problems arise that need to be ironed out
  • wintvwintv Posts: 493
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    Same here but not bothered think I will wait and see prior to an install.

    I have lost my windows 10 app and in update no mention of win 10 being reserved. May have changed with the win 7 update yesterday I did not notice to be honest.
  • ArcanaArcana Posts: 37,521
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    Upgrade was smooth albeit a bit slow out on my sub-state-of-the-art notebook.

    Got up early to have a bit of a look round and early impressions are that it's certainly a step forward compared to W8. The only major snag I've found so far is being unable to establish a miracast connection to my Fire TV box but hopefully there's a solution out there somewhere.

    Still got the desktop to do but probably leave that to the weekend,
  • KrommKromm Posts: 6,180
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    kirbyreed wrote: »
    Still haven't got my notification. Does anybody know the latest date that I should get it by?
    same here - just be patient I guess, its gonna be about to get hold of for a year... looking at it, would rather wait to see if any problems arise that need to be ironed out
    You don't need to wait if you really don't want to. You CAN if you want to be cautious, but if like kirbyreed you think you have no choice but to wait? That's not true.

    Just go here and download it manually: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

    Run the little app there--either the 32 or 64 bit version of the Media Creation Tool. Realistically, 64 bit if you have 4GB or better and 32 bit if you have 1GB to 3GB. Some might argue you can run 64 bit with as little as 2GB, but it's not really worth it.

    Back up your Windows key/license first before running anything, by using any of the products on this page: http://pcsupport.about.com/od/productkeysactivation/tp/topkeyfinder.htm

    They find the number, which you can write down or email to yourself or any other trick to have a copy off your PC (where it could be wiped out).

    Uninstall manually before an upgrade attempt any kind of System Utility program that isn't really up to date. It's just not worth the risk trying to run old System level utilities.

    When you run the Media Creation Tool, just choose the "Upgrade My System" choice. No need for external media--assuming you have ample hard drive room. Which you will ALSO need because the Win 10 upgrade leaves all of Win8 behind so you can roll back--and there's no way to get around it doing that really--although you CAN delete that after the upgrade is done using the Disk Cleanup utility (using the option in that to include cleaning up old System Files).
  • MinkinitMinkinit Posts: 446
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    Dynopia wrote: »
    The store and apps won't load for me, no idea how to fix it.

    I have the same issue. I can get on the app store, but gives me an error when i downlod one.

    Does the app store work for anybody?
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
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    The Microsoft official Russian advert for Windows 10.
    https://youtu.be/cRp46LHpp2s
  • KrommKromm Posts: 6,180
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    Minkinit wrote: »
    I have the same issue. I can get on the app store, but gives me an error when i downlod one.

    Does the app store work for anybody?

    Works fine for me.

    This page has some suggestions based on the Tech Preview. So the suggestions there may or may not work with the release code: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/insider_wintp-insider_store/how-to-repair-the-new-store-beta-in-windows-10/d904b96d-731f-42d5-b858-161105381279

    The one to use a command prompt (as admin) and run the following (then immediately reboot) seems like the one that's helped some people:

    dism /online /cleanup-image /startcomponentcleanup
  • BrigonBrigon Posts: 2,864
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    The all important question is.... Is Spider Solitaire & Minesweeper still there?
  • MinkinitMinkinit Posts: 446
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    Kromm wrote: »
    Works fine for me.

    This page has some suggestions based on the Tech Preview. So the suggestions there may or may not work with the release code: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/insider_wintp-insider_store/how-to-repair-the-new-store-beta-in-windows-10/d904b96d-731f-42d5-b858-161105381279

    The one to use a command prompt (as admin) and run the following (then immediately reboot) seems like the one that's helped some people:

    dism /online /cleanup-image /startcomponentcleanup

    Cheers, i'll try that one
  • KrommKromm Posts: 6,180
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    Minkinit wrote: »
    Cheers, i'll try that one



    And here's a second completely different suggestion (again based on older test versions of Win 10): http://winaero.com/blog/fix-store-beta-app-does-not-work-in-windows-10/

    And here's yet a THIRD place with more recent suggestions (only from the last 4 days, so based on a very recent build):

    http://www.tenforums.com/software-apps/8935-store-app-broken.html

    The main one seems to be that "wsreset" suggestion.

    And a FOURTH set of suggestions here: http://forums.windowscentral.com/windows-10-pc-laptop/367524-store-crashing-upon-opening-build-10240-a.html

    Near the end of that page is the most useful looking.
  • zz9zz9 Posts: 10,767
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    Brigon wrote: »
    The all important question is.... Is Spider Solitaire & Minesweeper still there?

    Spider Solitaire is.
  • KrommKromm Posts: 6,180
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    Minesweeper: https://www.microsoft.com/en-US/store/Apps/Microsoft-Minesweeper/9WZDNCRFHWCN

    Not there by default, but easy to get.
  • alanwarwicalanwarwic Posts: 28,396
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    Kromm wrote: »
    One other bit of advice (not to alan1302 but the people following his suggestion about where to download from)

    Be careful picking between 32 and 64 bit.

    I know it's tempting to pick 64 thinking it's "better", but only do so if you have 4GB or RAM or better. Otherwise pick 32.

    Also, of course, don't even BOTHER to upgrade at all if you don't have at least 1 GB of RAM (but lets be honest .... 2 GB really, or it will stink really bad) and also a dual-core processor...

    But those cheap W8.1 tablets that flooded the market are only 1GB, Atom, 32 bit and use emmc, so no ssd.
  • mooxmoox Posts: 18,880
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    Kromm wrote: »
    One other bit of advice (not to alan1302 but the people following his suggestion about where to download from)

    Be careful picking between 32 and 64 bit.

    I know it's tempting to pick 64 thinking it's "better", but only do so if you have 4GB or RAM or better. Otherwise pick 32.

    Is there a sound technical justification for this? The only major issue with 64 bit is driver support, and that was more or less fixed about 10 years ago. Another problem with this suggestion is that if you did upgrade to 4GB of RAM or more in the future, you'd have to reinstall the 64 bit version anyway. I think you also have to upgrade using the same version that you have installed anyway - you can't use 32bit 10 to upgrade from 64bit 7 or 8 as I understand it
    Kromm wrote: »
    Also, for recording you Windows license key off your PC, google and download Magical Jellybean Keyfinder or one of the many other similar programs that do the same thing. Don't NOT do this. Be prepared for the worst, even though the actual upgrade seems to be going SO well for most people.

    Depending on the OS and the way it was activated, the key that will show up isn't a real product key and could not be used to reactivate the system anyway. This is especially true after you upgrade to 10 - the product key is a generic one that gets used on everyone's machine
  • Nick PNick P Posts: 26
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    Upgraded from W7 last night with no problems. Took a couple of hours but that was ok. I haven't had a chance for a proper look at it yet and sorry if someone's already asked this but has anyone come across a useful user guide?
  • philenglandphilengland Posts: 8,176
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    Had a shock earlier - my computer startted to update! - then locked up

    Had to restore back to Windows 8.1

    error 0xC1900101 – 0x40017 - this apparently points to USB driver - solution is to unplug everything that is plugged in to USB (except mouse and keyboard) - here I go again!
  • kirbyreedkirbyreed Posts: 1,816
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    Kromm wrote: »
    You don't need to wait if you really don't want to. You CAN if you want to be cautious, but if like kirbyreed you think you have no choice but to wait? That's not true.

    Just go here and download it manually: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

    Run the little app there--either the 32 or 64 bit version of the Media Creation Tool. Realistically, 64 bit if you have 4GB or better and 32 bit if you have 1GB to 3GB. Some might argue you can run 64 bit with as little as 2GB, but it's not really worth it.

    Back up your Windows key/license first before running anything, by using any of the products on this page: http://pcsupport.about.com/od/productkeysactivation/tp/topkeyfinder.htm

    They find the number, which you can write down or email to yourself or any other trick to have a copy off your PC (where it could be wiped out).

    Uninstall manually before an upgrade attempt any kind of System Utility program that isn't really up to date. It's just not worth the risk trying to run old System level utilities.

    When you run the Media Creation Tool, just choose the "Upgrade My System" choice. No need for external media--assuming you have ample hard drive room. Which you will ALSO need because the Win 10 upgrade leaves all of Win8 behind so you can roll back--and there's no way to get around it doing that really--although you CAN delete that after the upgrade is done using the Disk Cleanup utility (using the option in that to include cleaning up old System Files).

    thanks but i'm fine with waiting. i don't really want to upgrade anyway as i'm perfectly happy with windows 7 but it's inevitable i'll have to upgrade and i may aswell get it while it's free!
  • JSemple3JSemple3 Posts: 8,652
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    What's this new offline maps feature all about? (I'll assume it's a kind of replacement for autoroute/streets and trips)?
  • RobinOfLoxleyRobinOfLoxley Posts: 27,040
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    W10 x64 is fine with 2GB on one of my laptops
    I also ran the Preview with it on W10 32 bit and another 4GB old laptop for 2 weeks.
    Really, there was no discernible difference (both dual core)

    I did find that some 3rd party apps are now 64 bit only, and I settled on putting both laptops back to W10 x64 over last week.


    For those planning clean installs, after W10 upgrade, and worried about Activation, it can be backed up and restored http://joshcellsoftwares.com/products/advancedtokensmanager/

    After backing up, move the Advanced Tokens Manager folder and files off C:\ (or zip and email)
  • soulboy77soulboy77 Posts: 24,396
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    Kromm wrote: »
    ..Back up your Windows key/license first before running anything, by using any of the products on this page: http://pcsupport.about.com/od/productkeysactivation/tp/topkeyfinder.htm

    They find the number, which you can write down or email to yourself or any other trick to have a copy off your PC (where it could be wiped out).....
    Belarc Advisor http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html is a free s/w and h/w audit tool that I use. If you run this before doing the Windows 10 upgrade it will provide a full comprehensive list of everything on your machine including every software licence key.
  • Red ArrowRed Arrow Posts: 10,889
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    Had 4 failed attempts to upgrade to Win 10 according to my Windows update history - any advice?
  • KrommKromm Posts: 6,180
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    moox wrote: »
    Is there a sound technical justification for this? The only major issue with 64 bit is driver support, and that was more or less fixed about 10 years ago.
    Practical experience from a lot of people who have posted about it over the years insists that the 64 bit version is more memory hungry. And Microsoft agrees. Their official "minimum" for 32 bit is 1 GB, but 2 GB for 64 bit. This is not me making that up.

    http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-specifications#sysreqs

    Of course what they consider passable is debatable, which is why double that 2GB is what a lot of people have seen over the past few years works with Win 8+ well enough not to be agonizing.

    Depending on the OS and the way it was activated, the key that will show up isn't a real product key and could not be used to reactivate the system anyway. This is especially true after you upgrade to 10 - the product key is a generic one that gets used on everyone's machine
    Okay, but it's not generic BEFORE the upgrade, for sure. The point is have the original key backed up somewhere in case the Win10 upgrade goes SO kablooey you can't even back it out. In case you have to go back to your ORIGINAL media and reinstall 7 or 8. Especially since people started making USB installs, they no longer have the little cards with license numbers on them--supposing they ever had them because vendors like HP and Dell did these annoying custom System Backup/Restore Disks instead (some which don't require you to input the key, but some which DO). And a lot of people had the Win key on a sticker on their old laptops which have long ago rubbed off (the clever companies put them under the battery, but most of them put them on the outside of the computer).

    The point is, don't take any chances.
  • KrommKromm Posts: 6,180
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    For those planning clean installs, after W10 upgrade, and worried about Activation, it can be backed up and restored http://joshcellsoftwares.com/products/advancedtokensmanager/

    After backing up, move the Advanced Tokens Manager folder and files off C:\ (or zip and email)
    That's actually good to know. Shame it isn't better known.

    As for your 2GB install with 64-bit? I imagine at the very least that must be a Dual Core processor, right? I can't imagine how slow it would be with single core and 2GB.
  • mike1948mike1948 Posts: 2,156
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    Red Arrow wrote: »
    Had 4 failed attempts to upgrade to Win 10 according to my Windows update history - any advice?

    Same here. I am attempting to go from W7. My suspion is that a USB3 card I installed a few months ago may not be compatible with W10, or the AVG Tune Up, which I use, may be the cause.

    I get to the stage where W10 is installing features. At the 30% mark it reverts to W7. Error number is C1900101-30018.

    I am thinking about not bothering with W10 now as there is little point fixing something that is not broken.
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