[DJ 213]

After getting a TiVo box 3 months ago, and being enticed into getting one by the fact it is being marketed as a top-spec, state of the art, 'intelligent' PVR, I'm amazed that when live TV over-runs and the schedules change at the last minute, that TiVo doesn't update itself, as Sky, Freeview & Freesat do.

This has been extremely noticeable over the last few weeks with Wimbledon on the BBC. I've had to look at the EPG on my 2007 Freeview TV to find out the updated schedules, rather than getting them from our shiny new TiVo box!

Even more annoying is the effect that this has on any recordings that are set to record AFTER the live programme or event that has over-ran, as TiVo will still record things at their originally scheduled times, so you either get just half of the programme, or if it's showing much later in the evening, none of it at all.

I can't wait for the Olympics, what a lovely mess the schedule listings will be on TiVo for that 17 days!

[fixerman]

You have identified a major drawback of the VM TiVo. It does not have a "dynamic" EPG.

[Cardiff_Blu1978]

What does "dynamic" mean when it comes to the TiVo epg ?

[AdamAnalogue]

This is why I will not "upgrade" from V+HD to TiVO. A dynamic epg would be a reason to upgrade. Some numpty at VM made a decision way back in the negotiations with TiVO to not include this (I appreciate it would need channel suppliers to co-operate too). Big mistake.

[martine93]

Do we need another thread about this?
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...2#post59225662

[AdamAnalogue]

Originally Posted by martine93

Do we need another thread about this?
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...2#post59225662

Yes we do. The more of a fuss is made, the more enlightened consumers may become. People Power!!

[eddacker]

Coming from the US ten years ago (where I had TiVo) I was surprised to find TiVo was being phased out. When Virgin resurrected a 'new' TiVo box produced by Cisco (the name for high powered intelligent devices) I was all in.
Much to my surprise, THE main feature of TiVo, the ability to adjust to changing schedules was not included. I could imagine there were cost issues with not having the fully powered, fully functional device Cisco could provide, but not having TiVo servers set up to adjust to changes in the schedule was a great surprise.

In the US TiVo's epg is in house, here they seem to use the same one as all the other Virgin systems use.

[carl.waring]

Originally Posted by AdamAnalogue

This is why I will not "upgrade" from V+HD to TiVO.

So the V+ doesn't have a DEPG but you won't upgrade to Tivo because it doesn't have a DEPG.

[TRS]

Originally Posted by carl.waring

So the V+ doesn't have a DEPG but you won't upgrade to Tivo because it doesn't have a DEPG.

You managed to miss the rest of his post, explaining that it would be a reason to upgrade. Funny that

It's a silly omission, particularly when it's available on freeview HDD boxes.

[Cardiff_Blu1978]

Again, what does dynamic epg mean please ?

[joshua_welby]

Originally Posted by Cardiff_Blu1978

Again, what does dynamic epg mean please ?

Dynamic EPG is when there is a show running late/early or cancelled the EPG Data is updated immediately with no time lag

All providers have this feature except for ALL Virgin boxes

[carl.waring]

Originally Posted by joshua_welby

All providers have this feature except for ALL Virgin boxes

Because on all other platforms it is the channel that is responsible for it's own listings. It's no great conspiracy against VM.

[BrianTheLion]

bearing in mind the actual purpose of a PVR surely its in every VM customers interest that this issue of a non dynamic EPG is addressed?

It cant be that difficult to send a signal to all boxes when necessary can it?

[kmusgrave]

Originally Posted by carl.waring

Because on all other platforms it is the channel that is responsible for it's own listings. It's no great conspiracy against VM.

and that's relevant because?