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David Cameron: We need to have a 'big conversation' about aggressive birds

Jol44Jol44 Posts: 21,048
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He’s axed funding into aggressive seagulls but David Cameron wants to have a "big conversation" about what to do with the birds after the public outcry that ensued when they killed a pet dog.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-cameron-on-seagulls-we-need-to-have-a-big-conversation-about-aggressive-birds-10398685.html

Dave and his 'big conversations'

There's already been a big conversation Dave, then you axed the funding.
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    JenzenJenzen Posts: 7,364
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    Gosh, Theresa May is not that bad!
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    Jol44Jol44 Posts: 21,048
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    Seriously speaking though, they are very much becoming a .nuisance.

    I'd say they destroy a fair bit of seaside trade.
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    jenziejenzie Posts: 20,821
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    nonsense and a virtual NON STORY!
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    plateletplatelet Posts: 26,387
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    jenzie wrote: »
    nonsense and a virtual NON STORY!

    Welcome to the silly season. Normal news will resume in September.
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    Jol44Jol44 Posts: 21,048
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    jenzie wrote: »
    nonsense and a virtual NON STORY!

    So you say Cameron is talking nonsense.

    Well, many would say he often does.

    Good to see you get stuck into David Cameron.
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    towerstowers Posts: 12,183
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    Jol44 wrote: »
    He’s axed funding into aggressive seagulls but David Cameron wants to have a "big conversation" about what to do with the birds after the public outcry that ensued when they killed a pet dog.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-cameron-on-seagulls-we-need-to-have-a-big-conversation-about-aggressive-birds-10398685.html

    Dave and his 'big conversations'

    There's already been a big conversation Dave, then you axed the funding.

    Perhaps if the public weren't feeding these birds or we weren't driving down fish stocks because of over-fishing by greedy humans, we wouldn't have such a problem with them..... 'Birds kill fish, pinch chips and occassionally killl other animals to survive' shocker, a bit like humans.

    What's up with Cameron and animals / nature? First fox hunting, then the implication that gardening requires no more skills than sweeping the streets - lol, obvious it's very easy to make a Chelsea winning garden - now attacking birds for performing natural behaviour when they're hungry..
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    Jol44Jol44 Posts: 21,048
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    platelet wrote: »
    Welcome to the silly season. Normal news will resume in September.

    Yes, back to bashing poor people.
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    GreatGodPanGreatGodPan Posts: 53,186
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    Jol44 wrote: »
    Seriously speaking though, they are very much becoming a .nuisance.

    I'd say they destroy a fair bit of seaside trade.

    Many gulls now live in urban areas - and in inland rural areas.

    I have never, ever heard of people not going to the seaside because of gulls being there too.

    I would say the activities of man are more of a nuisance in all of these areas.
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    THOMOTHOMO Posts: 7,452
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    Of course the European Comission want to weaken the laws protecting wildlife throughout the European Community, which at the moment has strong protection through the European Directive on wildlife. And according to the Guardian one of the reasons they are possibly trying to weaken the law is because of the behest of David Cameron. It's a very interesting article from the Guardian newspaper and it's in the environmental section on the Guardian Newspapers website. And as I'm a member of the RSPB and a keen birdwatcher, it's of grave concern to me.
    Ian.
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    Jol44Jol44 Posts: 21,048
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    GreatGodPan wrote: »
    I have never, ever heard of people not going to the seaside because of gulls being there too.

    I was referring to trade of food outlets.
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    Jol44Jol44 Posts: 21,048
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    They are increasingly a nuisance, I don't think there's any doubt about that.
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    Jol44Jol44 Posts: 21,048
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    towers wrote: »
    Perhaps if the public weren't feeding these birds or we weren't driving down fish stocks because of over-fishing by greedy humans, we wouldn't have such a problem with them..... 'Birds kill fish, pinch chips and occassionally killl other animals to survive' shocker, a bit like humans.

    I agree.

    However, it doesn't change the fact that they are increasingly a problem.
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    Ulysses777Ulysses777 Posts: 741
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    I would suggest that they have been over-breeding due to humans feeding them in the past, and now that more and more local authorities are warning against feeding them, it's now a case of too many of them, too little food.
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    plateletplatelet Posts: 26,387
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    Jol44 wrote: »
    Yes, back to bashing poor people.

    Harshest criticism of the Labour Party Conference ever - though this year maybe :D
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    roger_50roger_50 Posts: 6,932
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    I live near the coast in Cornwall and over the last 3 or 4 years there's been a gradual ramping up of strong advice being given by local councils - especially with regards to leaving food out - gulls are becoming rampant these days down here. Hardly anyone leaves old bread/food out any more for smaller birds, they just get driven off or attacked by the gulls.

    Of course not being able to 'officially' remove gull nests from town roofs has massively made it worse too. There was a time we could restrict them to cliffs and so on for nesting.

    Just a massive lack of common sense in general towards the issue. It would be so easy to take a few steps to limit their impact on the human population.
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    BanglaRoadBanglaRoad Posts: 57,596
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    Glad to see our PM concentrating on the serious issues.
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    AristaeusAristaeus Posts: 9,974
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    *insufferable pedant alert*

    There's technically no such thing as a seagull.
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    GTR DavoGTR Davo Posts: 4,573
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    Gulls and foxes are major pests in urban areas! I cant see how Cameron can do anything about them though? If you are attacked however, just kill the thing.
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    LyricalisLyricalis Posts: 57,958
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    A conversation, 'big' or otherwise, usually involves listening as well as talking. I don't think Cameron really wants that, not unless he gets to pick all the participants anyway.
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    niceguy1966niceguy1966 Posts: 29,560
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    People that are aware of the gull problem but turn a blind eye to it that are as bad as the gulls themselves. Apparently.
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    RobMilesRobMiles Posts: 1,224
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    Jenzen wrote: »
    Gosh, Theresa May is not that bad!

    I think he was talking about the Eagle sisters!
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    allaortaallaorta Posts: 19,050
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    GreatGodPan wrote: »
    Many gulls now live in urban areas - and in inland rural areas.

    I have never, ever heard of people not going to the seaside because of gulls being there too.

    I would say the activities of man are more of a nuisance in all of these areas.

    They always did, many gulls nest inland and the term "seagull" is something of a misnomer in many instances.
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    BillyJamesTBillyJamesT Posts: 2,934
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    Put a bounty on them, £5 a wing, that'll get the numbers down.
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    TassiumTassium Posts: 31,639
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    "Big" is David Cameron's favourite word when he wants to do exactly nothing.

    Any politician with a loose association with telling the truth eventually get's to the point where their various tricks become obvious.
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    GreatGodPanGreatGodPan Posts: 53,186
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    GTR Davo wrote: »
    Gulls and foxes are major pests in urban areas! I cant see how Cameron can do anything about them though? If you are attacked however, just kill the thing.

    Ah! The return of our gun totin' poster, right on cue.
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