I remember Channel 5 were meant to run saturday night as "Law and Order night" Law and Order, L/O SVU and Criminal intent then Channel 5 took off Law and Order and went back to I think either CSI or NCIS (I don't mind NCIS) but the following week Law and Order never appeared and I never watched it since - so why start up something and basically axe a show to do with a so called "theme" it baffles me
Even Big Brother is getting buried. The final has been split into 2 parts on Monday night, the 2nd of which is on from 10:55-11:30pm. Why? So that they can show none other than Under the Dome at 10pm.
Even Big Brother is getting buried. The final has been split into 2 parts on Monday night, the 2nd of which is on from 10:55-11:30pm. Why? So that they can show none other than Under the Dome at 10pm.
Surely channel 5 could have had it done in one show at 9pm or even ran it from 8pm or 8.30pm? (I am not into Big Brother here but I wonder if viewers will drop even when Under the Dome starts and 2nd part of BB?)
With some of these shows you have to expect it. They only have second run rights with the second run rights not kicking in until the day after the season finale airs on the first run rights channels. This happens to be the same day that the DVD is usually released.
So is it really that surprising when shows like Dexter, Walking Dead and True Blood who already have a niche appeal anyway fail to grab an audience share that justifies the hour they are aired in. Its the reason why the BBC didnt take up Sky's offer of second run rights on 24 and Channel 4 didn't take sky's offer of second run rights for LOST because they both knew that the potential audience would have been caniblised so it didnt justitfy either the prime time slot or the episode fee.
Other shows have failed elsewhere already which shows that there may not be an audience and means they may also have to buy previous seasons and air those first to build an audience which isn't always viable. C5 did try buying shows that had flopped elsewhere before by buying shows like Alias and Stargate Atlantis and giving them a decent slot but they couldn't find themselves an audience still
With some of these shows you have to expect it. They only have second run rights with the second run rights not kicking in until the day after the season finale airs on the first run rights channels. This happens to be the same day that the DVD is usually released.
So is it really that surprising when shows like Dexter, Walking Dead and True Blood who already have a niche appeal anyway fail to grab an audience share that justifies the hour they are aired in. Its the reason why the BBC didnt take up Sky's offer of second run rights on 24 and Channel 4 didn't take sky's offer of second run rights for LOST because they both knew that the potential audience would have been caniblised so it didnt justitfy either the prime time slot or the episode fee.
Other shows have failed elsewhere already which shows that there may not be an audience and means they may also have to buy previous seasons and air those first to build an audience which isn't always viable. C5 did try buying shows that had flopped elsewhere before by buying shows like Alias and Stargate Atlantis and giving them a decent slot but they couldn't find themselves an audience still
Sky normally buys exclusive rights (meaning the distributor cannot offer a second run to another broadcaster). Otherwise, E4 would've been over Glee like a rash...
C5 ruin shows, by having so many ads. I know they have to make money but when its so easy to get the shows elsewhere without ads they don't help themselves
C5 ruin shows, by having so many ads. I know they have to make money but when its so easy to get the shows elsewhere without ads they don't help themselves
The only way they could combat that is by going ad free. Which for obvious reasons isn't feasible...
Sky normally buys exclusive rights (meaning the distributor cannot offer a second run to another broadcaster). Otherwise, E4 would've been over Glee like a rash...
Yes but Sky did shop both the 24 and LOST rights around. And if they were still doing that I'm not sure E4 would have been all over Glees second run rights as the cost for the ratings wouldn't have been great as Sky already paid over the odds for the second run rights
C5 ruin shows, by having so many ads. I know they have to make money but when its so easy to get the shows elsewhere without ads they don't help themselves
The first episode of Dallas was like ads every 5 minutes & ads for competition after each break it was a joke
It was a longer episode than the rest of the series and had four ad breaks. The maximum length of an internal break is 3m 50s of which only 3m 30s can be paid ads.
It was a longer episode than the rest of the series and had four ad breaks. The maximum length of an internal break is 3m 50s of which only 3m 30s can be paid ads.
I thought that rule only applied during films and TV movies...
They can be longer in those, as they're only allowed one break per 30 minutes of programme.
I'm fairly certain it's the other way round, and that the limit is only on films, as well as one per scheduled half hour. I'll look later, but tbh I can't be bothered to get in to an argument, and this being DS it will almost certainly devolve into one...
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If you'd read my original post, you'd know that that is exactly the problem I'm having.
Not really gloating but more of a "why don't other DVRs do this by now" comment.
Surely channel 5 could have had it done in one show at 9pm or even ran it from 8pm or 8.30pm? (I am not into Big Brother here but I wonder if viewers will drop even when Under the Dome starts and 2nd part of BB?)
I gave up on Dallas when Channel 5 done that :eek:, you have to wonder if they do this to shows on purpose or why they do it
Agreed. As I said in the post above yours, they didn't give Dallas a chance before they moved it.
So is it really that surprising when shows like Dexter, Walking Dead and True Blood who already have a niche appeal anyway fail to grab an audience share that justifies the hour they are aired in. Its the reason why the BBC didnt take up Sky's offer of second run rights on 24 and Channel 4 didn't take sky's offer of second run rights for LOST because they both knew that the potential audience would have been caniblised so it didnt justitfy either the prime time slot or the episode fee.
Other shows have failed elsewhere already which shows that there may not be an audience and means they may also have to buy previous seasons and air those first to build an audience which isn't always viable. C5 did try buying shows that had flopped elsewhere before by buying shows like Alias and Stargate Atlantis and giving them a decent slot but they couldn't find themselves an audience still
Yes but Sky did shop both the 24 and LOST rights around. And if they were still doing that I'm not sure E4 would have been all over Glees second run rights as the cost for the ratings wouldn't have been great as Sky already paid over the odds for the second run rights
C5 doesn't have any more ads than ITV or C4.
The first episode of Dallas was like ads every 5 minutes & ads for competition after each break it was a joke
It was a longer episode than the rest of the series and had four ad breaks. The maximum length of an internal break is 3m 50s of which only 3m 30s can be paid ads.
I thought that rule only applied during films and TV movies...
They can be longer in those, as they're only allowed one break per 30 minutes of programme.
I'm fairly certain it's the other way round, and that the limit is only on films, as well as one per scheduled half hour. I'll look later, but tbh I can't be bothered to get in to an argument, and this being DS it will almost certainly devolve into one...