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mp`s expected to get 11% pay rise.........

annette kurtenannette kurten Posts: 39,543
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25287108

are they for real?

david cameron described it as unthinkable at some point, but i`ll bet he won`t refuse it.

edit: apparently they aren`t allowed to refuse it, perhaps they could change the rules then, they managed it quick enough with benefits.
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    artnadaartnada Posts: 10,113
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    But remember OP. As Unkie Dave Cameroon and Corporal Clegg once said "We're all in the together"...just that some are in it more than others!

    SNOUTS IN THE TROUGH as usual!
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    whitecliffewhitecliffe Posts: 12,160
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    artnada wrote: »
    But remember OP. As Unkie Dave Cameroon and Corporal Clegg once said "We're all in the together"...just that some are in it more than others!

    SNOUTS IN THE TROUGH as usual!

    I think all three main parties leaders have rejected this raise when previously proposed, it does seem excessive and insensitive.

    Mind you can anyone on this board honestly say they have ever rejected a pay rise cause it was too much.
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    Hugh JboobsHugh Jboobs Posts: 15,316
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    Personally I don't think 74 grand is too much for an MP to earn. I wouldn't do the job for twice that amount.
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    Molly BloomMolly Bloom Posts: 2,318
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    I don't think 'how can they sleep at night' is even an answerable question anymore, if it ever was. Talk about making a pact with Satan.
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    whitecliffewhitecliffe Posts: 12,160
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    Personally I don't think 74 grand is too much for an MP to earn. I wouldn't do the job for twice that amount.

    Very true who in their right mind would want to be an MP.
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    bluebladeblueblade Posts: 88,859
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    It's highly provocative, when other public sector workers are restricted to 1%, and indeed, pay rises generally are very low.
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    QuofanQuofan Posts: 352
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    I've never had a pay rise of more than a couple of per cent and my rise this year was just 0.75%. Next year's will probably be around the same. I've also had my final salary pension decimated so retirement won't be as comfortable as I once thought.
    I really don't understand how MPs can justify that amount of rise. Where do they get these figures from - do they pluck a number out of the air or pull it out of a hat?
    I also think in these times of austerity, where we are all supposed to be tightening our belts, that its completely insensitive.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 16,986
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    Awww. I hope the 11% applies to their expenses too. I'd hate their duck ponds or moats to freeze over because of the increased energy bills. Poor things.

    Unscrupulous thieves.
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    JasonJason Posts: 76,557
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    Well I suppose with all the money they're "saving" due to the war on the vulnerable, it's got to go somewhere - why not in their pockets?
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    AndrueAndrue Posts: 23,366
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    It sounds bad at first but they are also losing a number of benefits in particular their pension is being downgraded to the 'industry average' and they will have to pay more into it.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25287108

    So try not fall into the OP's trap of just reacting to the headline ;)
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 16,986
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    Andrue wrote: »
    It sounds bad at first but they are also losing a number of benefits in particular their pension is being downgraded to the 'industry average' and they will have to pay more into it.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25287108

    So try not fall into the OP's trap of just reacting to the headline ;)

    As are everyone in the industry. Minus the 11% rise of course.
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    mushymanrobmushymanrob Posts: 17,992
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    Personally I don't think 74 grand is too much for an MP to earn. I wouldn't do the job for twice that amount.

    it is when the rest of us have to tighten our belts for the mess the mp's make.
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    mushymanrobmushymanrob Posts: 17,992
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    thought we are 'all in this together' mr ca-moron ...

    this is disgraceful. they cant afford a payrise for the nurses yet can find money for this... its obscene...
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    annette kurtenannette kurten Posts: 39,543
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    Andrue wrote: »
    It sounds bad at first but they are also losing a number of benefits in particular their pension is being downgraded to the 'industry average' and they will have to pay more into it.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25287108

    So try not fall into the OP's trap of just reacting to the headline ;)

    you can`t see it but my eyes are rolling.

    everyone`s facing cuts everywhere as well as NOT having more than ten percent added to their already very large income, it`s nothing short of obscene.

    edit: and it appears that the perks cut amount to £250 per annum, per mp.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24613217
    In its latest report, it proposed MPs should get a £7,000 pay rise. But it said they should no longer be able to claim for:

    A £15 evening meal when Parliament sits after 1930
    Hospitality tea and biscuits
    Hotels before 0100
    Taxis home before 2300
    Contents insurance for a second home
    Installing a TV in a second home
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    The_MothThe_Moth Posts: 7,751
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    Does anyone understand why the 1% cap does not apply to MPs?
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    Phil OwensPhil Owens Posts: 6,989
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    The_Moth wrote: »
    Does anyone understand why the 1% cap does not apply to MPs?

    Because it's them and us...>:(
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    RickyBarbyRickyBarby Posts: 5,902
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    MP's do not deserve a pay rise.

    in it together
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    ~Twinkle~~Twinkle~ Posts: 8,166
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    Andrue wrote: »
    It sounds bad at first but they are also losing a number of benefits in particular their pension is being downgraded to the 'industry average' and they will have to pay more into it.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25287108

    So try not fall into the OP's trap of just reacting to the headline ;)

    Sensible post.
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    AndrueAndrue Posts: 23,366
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    As are everyone in the industry. Minus the 11% rise of course.
    Yes but remuneration is relative so it's reducing the gain of the pay rise. Hard to say by how much but pensions are expensive things to build up so long term it could be quite a reduction. I would take a pay cut over a pension cut any day.

    Anyway as I've maintained before - if you want the best MPs you have to pay a decent wage. Only a fool would do a difficult job with huge responsibilities attached to it for a poor wage - do we really want a bunch of fools in Parliament? Or maybe that's the problem with what we do get. All the really bright leaders have been lured off to the private sector to earn six figure salaries. We've been left with the pillocks who will try and run an entire country for £74k.

    I mean let's put that into perspective. Until recently I was earning just over £60k programming computers. Of course I didn't get anything in the way of perks nor a golden parachute at the end but still. If a computer programmer is paid £60k how come an MP is only paid £74k? I'm not that good a programmer :)
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    plateletplatelet Posts: 26,387
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    Quofan wrote: »
    Where do they get these figures from - do they pluck a number out of the air or pull it out of a hat?

    It's to compensate for the fact that they have to pay for their own tea and biscuits now
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    rupert_pupkinrupert_pupkin Posts: 3,975
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    They only earn 75k?
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    annette kurtenannette kurten Posts: 39,543
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    my son in law has to pay the mod something £50 a year tea and toast allowance, in all his years he`s been in service he and his colleagues are yet to have the tea and toast.

    meant to quote platelet.
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    zx50zx50 Posts: 91,275
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    artnada wrote: »
    But remember OP. As Unkie Dave Cameroon and Corporal Clegg once said "We're all in the together"...just that some are in it more than others!

    SNOUTS IN THE TROUGH as usual!

    That has to be the most laughable thing that Cameron has said. We're all in this together and yet the MPs might be getting about £7,000 added on to what they make in a year. As for the last bit of your post, most definitely.

    Edit: I meant the underlined bit.
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    annette kurtenannette kurten Posts: 39,543
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    ...........................
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    Phil OwensPhil Owens Posts: 6,989
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    Andrue wrote: »
    It sounds bad at first but they are also losing a number of benefits in particular their pension is being downgraded to the 'industry average' and they will have to pay more into it.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25287108

    So try not fall into the OP's trap of just reacting to the headline ;)
    But they still get paid way too much...
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