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Is Radio 1 falling apart?

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    GeordieyodelGeordieyodel Posts: 902
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    Who would you prefer to take over Scotts slot in May? Dev Matt Alice or Gemma?

    Again, definitely Alice. Gemma for weekend afternoons, bring in some new blood on rotation for a year or so to find new hosts. Matt and Dev can cover breakfast and greg respectively, with Gemma filling in for Clara and Alice. I think I could cope with that!
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    iain_stevenson1iain_stevenson1 Posts: 1,349
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    I should point out that I don't know for certain that Scott is being moved to weekends in May when Clara takes over Fearnes show.It's just a feeling that I've got because it's the sort of thing Ben Cooper tends to do. I think he's under pressure to promote one of them esp Matt or Dev since Clara has had her promotion ahead of them, and they're not going to hang around forever if they think they've been passed over. I think Alice is probably the least bothered about not getting a promotion though since she just got her own daytime show last September, so it probably won't be her who gets it.
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    TUCTUC Posts: 5,105
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    Dev is surely on the way out of the door after being dropped from weekdays to weekend breakfast. That's the usual endpoint from that slot.
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    Heathyheath_Heathyheath_ Posts: 986
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    TUC wrote: »
    Dev is surely on the way out of the door after being dropped from weekdays to weekend breakfast. That's the usual endpoint from that slot.

    They seem willing to show him a lot of faith when it comes to covering for Greg's show, I got the feeling that it's almost like their way of testing the waters to see how Dev would work in a breakfast show environment.
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    GeordieyodelGeordieyodel Posts: 902
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    TUC wrote: »
    Dev is surely on the way out of the door after being dropped from weekdays to weekend breakfast. That's the usual endpoint from that slot.

    Dev's a pretty decent host; he's popular, but of a radio nerd, can step in and cover at ease. I'd say he's fine for a while yet.
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    thestu6thestu6 Posts: 23
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    I would never say falling apart but it is generations shifting. I'm 32 and I see my radio 1 as Chris moyles/joe whiley/Edith bowman/Scott mills and then when fearne replaces Jo and then years later Greg replaced Edith... I felt my time was up with radio 1 and my generation were on way out and the new wave coming in. Finally when Chris left, my time was up.

    Interesting thing for me was when fearne now announcing leaving, I remember when she was linked to replace Chris on breakfast show, that shows me radio 1 is changing quicker than ever before. And with only Scott left my generation radio 1 is over and maybe the one after is, how long as grimmy got left? And with zane Lowe now going, the history and stability of having some Known names is gone. Are these replacements long term and good djs. Yes Anne Mac is great but who's replacing her

    Radio 1 is changing quicker than ever yet where am I left? Radio 2? I know Jo, Sara are making there mark but radio 2 is the radio 1 generations before mine with Chris Evans, Simon Mayo and Steve Wright.

    Where is a 30 year old meant to go.... Podcasts I guess until my radio 1 takes over radio 2??
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    iain_stevenson1iain_stevenson1 Posts: 1,349
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    TUC wrote: »
    Dev is surely on the way out of the door after being dropped from weekdays to weekend breakfast. That's the usual endpoint from that slot.

    I got the impression that moving him to weekend breakfast was a promotion to keep him at the station.If you listened to him on early breakfast he was starting to sound more and more fed up with it.I think if he hadn't been moved he would have quit. Since he was moved to weekends he's done lots of cover for Greg and Scott and generally has a much higher profile on the station. He's definitely a contender for his own weekday show when a vacancy occurs IMO
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    mintbromintbro Posts: 6,733
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    The trouble is at times radio one appeals much more to the teens then it does those in their twenties. I've not listened to nick's show since he took over, at the time it was non stop one direction, even at 24 I felt too old for radio one.
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    pjexpjex Posts: 9,425
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    I got the impression that moving him to weekend breakfast was a promotion to keep him at the station.If you listened to him on early breakfast he was starting to sound more and more fed up with it.I think if he hadn't been moved he would have quit. Since he was moved to weekends he's done lots of cover for Greg and Scott and generally has a much higher profile on the station. He's definitely a contender for his own weekday show when a vacancy occurs IMO

    Hardly a promotion that's where he started his Radio 1 career so he was just shifted back to his original slot, he has not moved forward at all since he joined the station over 5 years ago. Dev is in there simply as a cover jock I don't see him ever getting a daytime gig.
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    calico_piecalico_pie Posts: 10,060
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    Who would you prefer to take over Scotts slot in May? Dev Matt Alice or Gemma?

    Do we know if Scott is definitely going? I guess he's probably the next likely to go sooner rather than later, but still enjoy the show.

    I think out of those Matt or Alice. Dev has grown on me eventually, and Gemma would probably make me switch off.
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    tt1986tt1986 Posts: 341
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    What's noticable to me at the moment is the lack of a double act (Apart from Scott and Chris). It's been said recently that Greg and Alice had excellent chemistry in recent broadcasts.. What's not to say that Ben Cooper could decide to move Greg and Alice to Breakfast and put Grimmy on Drivetime? Or would that be seen as a bit of a waste putting two great DJ's on the one show?

    And in response to the comment about lack of new talent.. Wasn't Greg originally plucked from obscurity - look at him now!

    What still draws me to Radio 1, and I was thinking about this the other day actually, is that when you listen to a DJ for a while you feel like you actually know them as a person. No other station for me is as open and great to listen to because of this. Chris Moyles, Scott, Greg and many more also all involve 'behind the scenes' staff, producers and assistants on-air and for me it's like tuning in to friends each day. I still listen back to the last ever Chris Moyles podcast and it still brings tears to my eyes!

    I'm 28..
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    pjexpjex Posts: 9,425
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    tt1986 wrote: »
    What's noticable to me at the moment is the lack of a double act (Apart from Scott and Chris). It's been said recently that Greg and Alice had excellent chemistry in recent broadcasts.. What's not to say that Ben Cooper could decide to move Greg and Alice to Breakfast and put Grimmy on Drivetime? Or would that be seen as a bit of a waste putting two great DJ's on the one show?

    And in response to the comment about lack of new talent.. Wasn't Greg originally plucked from obscurity - look at him now!

    What still draws me to Radio 1, and I was thinking about this the other day actually, is that when you listen to a DJ for a while you feel like you actually know them as a person. No other station for me is as open and great to listen to because of this. Chris Moyles, Scott, Greg and many more also all involve 'behind the scenes' staff, producers and assistants on-air and for me it's like tuning in to friends each day. I still listen back to the last ever Chris Moyles podcast and it still brings tears to my eyes!

    I'm 28..

    Interesting comments, the fact you still enjoy Radio 1 will be of interest to Ben Cooper he needs to figure out how to change the station so that in 2 years time it becomes a turn off for you.
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    JB1601JB1601 Posts: 405
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    Like many here I'm getting to an age (early 30s) when I'm through with Radio 1 - not that that's a bad thing, in fact it's exactly what they should be doing. My worry about R1 at the moment is it all feels a bit…samey. I can't imagine them signing up someone like Moyles, Mills or Radcliffe now, and I'm not sure where the entertaining DJs of the future (as opposed to the musos) are going to come from. Matt Edmondson is just awful. He thinks everything he says it hilarious when it clearly isn't. Alice Levine is OK but a bit student radio. Dev again is OK but nothing special - and has taken many years to get to this point as he was dreadful when he started. I rate Grimmy as a presenter but his show feels very repetitive these days.

    And all throughout is the constant obsession with YouTube stars or anyone generating the most minor of hype online. I get they're mimicking what their audience likes, but it sometimes feels a bit shallow compared to the sort of features and guests they used to have. The tone of the station darts between beard-stroking-new-music-serious or puerile-spitting-water-at-each-other kind of level, it feels like there's nothing in between.

    And with the predicted imminent departure of Mills they have a problem, because he's doing one of the best shows on the station and is still very in touch with his listeners (who unlike Moyles are still young because he hasn't self-indulged with too much chat and old songs). Greg James is great but he's 30 this year, so his days of being the "young face" of the station are numbered.

    The latest changes are interesting, I thought they would have gone with either a younger name to replace Zane (Annie is 35 now) or Huw Stephens, who seems to have been groomed for that slot for years, but going for Annie instead seems to be based around saving money more than anything. Same with Clara getting Fearne's show - they've lost two (probably quite expensive) DJs and replaced them both using existing presenters.
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    merrim01merrim01 Posts: 2,686
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    I'm 28 and 29 this year, Ben Cooper will not get rid of me that easily I can tell you, I've said before as long as I enjoy the music I won't be going anywhere, I will flick over to Radio 2 for POTP at the moment and that's it.

    I've always liked Dev and it does seem strange he's ended up back where he started but I do like him on weekends. It's good he's covering for Greg but I don't see him getting this slot full time if Greg were to move and I don't think he would get Scott's either. It's more likely that Matt will get Scott's slot. Don't forget we've seen many DJs cover for drive before like Nihal, JK & Joel among others all of whom have eventually moved on. JK & Joel should have been promoted, it did seem like we held onto Whiley & Edithfor a long time and then all of a sudden we lost them both and Moyles within a year or so of each other. Nihal was quite old by the time he was covering for Scott and could be quite annoying I found.
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    jsam93jsam93 Posts: 808
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    tt1986 wrote: »
    What's noticable to me at the moment is the lack of a double act (Apart from Scott and Chris). It's been said recently that Greg and Alice had excellent chemistry in recent broadcasts.. What's not to say that Ben Cooper could decide to move Greg and Alice to Breakfast and put Grimmy on Drivetime? Or would that be seen as a bit of a waste putting two great DJ's on the one show?

    And in response to the comment about lack of new talent.. Wasn't Greg originally plucked from obscurity - look at him now!

    What still draws me to Radio 1, and I was thinking about this the other day actually, is that when you listen to a DJ for a while you feel like you actually know them as a person. No other station for me is as open and great to listen to because of this. Chris Moyles, Scott, Greg and many more also all involve 'behind the scenes' staff, producers and assistants on-air and for me it's like tuning in to friends each day. I still listen back to the last ever Chris Moyles podcast and it still brings tears to my eyes!

    I'm 28..

    If I was in charge at Radio 1, that's exactly what I'd do. Something like this:


    Weekdays
    4:00 Gemma Cairney
    7:00 The Radio 1 Breakfast Show with Greg James and Alice Levine
    10:00 Clara Amfo
    1:00 Matt Edmondson
    4:00 Nick Grimshaw
    7:00 Annie Mac
    9:00 Specialists
    10:00 Huw Stephens (except Friday)
    1:00 Specialists


    Weekends
    6:00 Scott Mills
    10:00 Phil Taggart
    1:00 Dev
    4:00 Dance Anthems/The Official Chart
    7:00 onwards: as now
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    TUCTUC Posts: 5,105
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    They seem willing to show him a lot of faith when it comes to covering for Greg's show, I got the feeling that it's almost like their way of testing the waters to see how Dev would work in a breakfast show environment.

    He sounds so shallow though, in his voice and attitude. He sounds like a 16 year old pretending to be in his mid-20s.
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    TheDemiurgeTheDemiurge Posts: 1,053
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    jsam93 wrote: »
    If I was in charge at Radio 1, that's exactly what I'd do. Something like this:


    Weekdays
    4:00 Gemma Cairney
    7:00 The Radio 1 Breakfast Show with Greg James and Alice Levine
    10:00 Clara Amfo

    1:00 Matt Edmondson
    4:00 Nick Grimshaw
    7:00 Annie Mac
    9:00 Specialists
    10:00 Huw Stephens (except Friday)
    1:00 Specialists

    Weekends
    6:00 Scott Mills
    10:00 Phil Taggart
    1:00 Dev
    4:00 Dance Anthems/The Official Chart
    7:00 onwards: as now

    That's a good schedule with good continuity given the current crop of presenters they have, but unlikely to happen. I imagine that in the next RAJARs Grimmy will have gone up somewhat, the show is so much better now than when it started. When Scott moves on Grimmy will be the "elder statesman" of the station and carrying the rest with him, so they're unlikely to move him out of that slot for now.

    There's a lot of great music being played on the station but it's getting lost in the schedule. The scattergun approach of the playlist but then repeated across several shows daily is giving that "samey" vibe a poster above referred to.
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    TheDemiurgeTheDemiurge Posts: 1,053
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    JB1601 wrote: »
    Like many here I'm getting to an age (early 30s) when I'm through with Radio 1 - not that that's a bad thing, in fact it's exactly what they should be doing. My worry about R1 at the moment is it all feels a bit…samey. I can't imagine them signing up someone like Moyles, Mills or Radcliffe now, and I'm not sure where the entertaining DJs of the future (as oppose
    d to the musos) are going to come from. Matt Edmondson is just awful. He thinks everything he says it hilarious when it clearly isn't. Alice Levine is OK but a bit student radio. Dev again is OK but nothing special - and has taken many years to get to this point as he was dreadful when he started. I rate Grimmy as a presenter but his show feels very repetitive these days.

    And all throughout is the constant obsession with YouTube stars or anyone generating the most minor of hype online. I get they're mimicking what their audience likes, but it sometimes feels a bit shallow compared to the sort of features and guests they used to have. The tone of the station darts between beard-stroking-new-music-serious or puerile-spitting-water-at-each-other kind of level, it feels like there's nothing in between.

    And with the predicted imminent departure of Mills they have a problem, because he's doing one of the best shows on the station and is still very in touch with his listeners (who unlike Moyles are still young because he hasn't self-indulged with too much chat and old songs). Greg James is great but he's 30 this year, so his days of being the "young face" of the station are numbered.

    The latest changes are interesting, I thought they would have gone with either a younger name to replace Zane (Annie is 35 now) or Huw Stephens, who seems to have been groomed for that slot for years, but going for Annie instead seems to be based around saving money more than anything. Same with Clara getting Fearne's show - they've lost two (probably quite expensive) DJs and replaced them both using existing presenters.

    Agree with much of the above. Annie has a young family now I think and her own business interests, giving her this slot as well is a tough number (unless she wanted it of course).

    There's so much great music around now and thanks to R1 we can hear it, but it would be great if they put a bit more effort into features about how these songs are constructed and the influences on new artists - I'm saying this so badly. R1 imho should be the aural equivalent of Mixmag - funny, direct and musically informative.
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    simonk243simonk243 Posts: 3,405
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    Andy23 wrote: »
    And those of us in our early 30s are left just roaming the dial, not sticking on one station for more than 10 mins at a time and gradually losing touch with what new music is in the charts thesedays.

    I don't feel too old for radio 1 just not keen on some of the music hip hop and rockier stuff.
    I still like a lot of current music and like to keep up to date
    I just can't find a station that I really like or can stick with for too long.

    I have tried radio 2 but it is still stuck in the dark ages with presenters like steve wright ken Bruce terry wogan and Tony Blackburn
    and not a fan of the middle of the road music and pre 1980 (though there playlist has become a lot more comtempory in the last few years)

    I would scrap radio 1xtra and 6music and start a station for those in between radios 1 and 2
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    JERRY HIPKISSJERRY HIPKISS Posts: 2,043
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    simonk243 wrote: »
    I would scrap radio 1xtra and 6music and start a station for those in between radios 1 and 2
    So, scrap what you don't like, and nuts to everybody else? :confused:
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    nikobatallonesnikobatallones Posts: 4,061
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    simonk243 wrote: »
    I would scrap radio 1xtra and 6music and start a station for those in between radios 1 and 2

    Isn't that arguably 6 Music?
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    simonk243simonk243 Posts: 3,405
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    So, scrap what you don't like, a2nd nuts to everybody else? :confused:

    No i just think 1xtra is already covered by radio 1. They play lots of urban music it doesnt warrant its own station. It could and can easily be covered by radio1. And now you have stations like capital xtra and Kiss Fresh so wouldn't leave a hole if it was closed.

    6music is very specialised it is more related to radio1 than 2, but we are told it is radio 2s sister station ?

    I just believe there is nothing out there for those between radios 1 and 2.
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    TUCTUC Posts: 5,105
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    Isn't that arguably 6 Music?

    The problem is that 6Music could fill that gap but it has chosen not to. There is a gap in the market for listeners who want harder-edged music from the past 20-30 years or so, with a variety of genres, including rock, hip hop etc-what I would call 'edgy but accessible' and covering tracks that were hits but which rarely get played. The problem is that too often 6Music seems to much more narrowly focus on low-fi indie music.
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    nikobatallonesnikobatallones Posts: 4,061
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    TUC wrote: »
    The problem is that 6Music could fill that gap but it has chosen not to. There is a gap in the market for listeners who want harder-edged music from the past 20-30 years or so, with a variety of genres, including rock, hip hop etc-what I would call 'edgy but accessible' and covering tracks that were hits but which rarely get played. The problem is that too often 6Music seems to much more narrowly focus on low-fi indie music.
    Fair point. I listen to 6 a lot and I feel the same way sometimes.

    A station similar to what you describe is a recently launched one in Norway, NRK P13 -- a digital rock station designed to be for those who have graduated past youth station P3.

    A fair smattering of classic rock, a little bit indie, but most strikingly, "rock" is a loose term here -- they regularly play the new Selena Gomez single!
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    iain_stevenson1iain_stevenson1 Posts: 1,349
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    Ex radio 1 DJ Nihal has attacked the station for not being ethnically diverse enough.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-31731397 He has a point. Clara Amfo is only the 4th non white DJ to ever be on the weekday line up. The other 3 are Lisa Ianson, Dev and Gemma Cairney. In fact when Clara takes over Fearnes slot it will be the first time that there has been 2 black DJs on the weekday line up at the same time (assuming Gemma is still doing earlies then).

    Radio 1 is still doing better than other BBC radio stations.I don't think radio 2 has ever had a non white DJ on a major slot.Correct me if I'm wrong

    PS As a matter of interest does anyone happen to know what Lisa ianson is doing these days? Is she still on the radio?
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