I might be misreading it but to me it looked a little like Denise is in love with Patrick a little. They're not blood relatives are they?? What's the background with these 2??
Not in that way but she definitely loves him. He's more or less become her father figure.
I might be misreading it but to me it looked a little like Denise is in love with Patrick a little. They're not blood relatives are they?? What's the background with these 2??
In 2006 she thought he was her dad but it turned out to be someone else but Patrick basically took her on as his daughter anyway.
Bloody hell, Mimi was brilliant tonight, so much better this time round, much more likeable as well. Luved the scenes with Ian and Cindy, even Ian was likeable again
But surely Denise wont forgive him, just like that unless she is going to team up with Sharon, and plan her revenge.
Liked Mick and Nancy scene as well. My lovely Maddy
9 J-B Points for the episode - Make the most of that sodding 9 because it won't be happening anytime soon >:( 0/10 Lauren, yet somehow it didn't even matter :eek:
+ Mimi Keene. The best young actress in soap.
+ The scenes between Ian and Cindy, references to Lou, and Cindy senior.
+ Nancy and Mick, will someone please give Nancy a storyline
- There were no minuses.
Who'da thunk it that a year ago tomorrow was the awful 'teens in the woods' storyline
How can I sit here and make fun of Eastenders every night when they make it so blooming good >:(
Oh I didnt realise you were a fan:) well thankyou for following my every move, very kind of you sadly hubby is watching it on the main telly and I am on the pc, so I an forced to watch this mess,lol
Awww, it must of been so hard for you, my heart really bleeds for you...
Brilliant episode, I may hate Ian but he can be a fascinating character, so many sides to him with all of them feeling genuine. Great performance again from Diane Parish, and Mimi Keene really is a future star of the show, I just hope they don't do what they did to Stacey and make her the killer.
Tomorrow's episode looks just as good as well, with a similarly small cast.
Firstly... Cindy. Am I happy to see her again? Honestly, I don't know. I've ranged from wondering why the hell she's there (and thinking she was just another pretty face from the Newman era), to not minding her, to actually quite liking her. And I'll give Mimi Keen (that right?) her due tonight - she was really, really good. Not just the giving birth bit, but when she got teary and admitted she didn't feel like she belonged anywhere.
I mean, at the end of the day, she's just a screwed up kid. Yes, she's a spoilt brat, and Ian wasted no time pointing that out. Yes, they've retconned stuff a bit, to hint that Gina and mummy aren't that nice when, originally, they probably should have doted on her (according to what I read). Yes, I hate baby plots, and it's hard to feel sympathy for her when she had the chance to get rid and didn't take it! But despite this, I understood last time why she was so desperate to keep it; it was hers. Something that truly was hers and nobody else's.
Cindy's mum died giving birth to her, and Cindy has probably always had that on her mind. To see her scared the same thing would happen to her was actually just a little bit touching.
In fact, parenthood in general was the theme tonight. That lovely scene with Mick and Nancy was long overdue. With the god awful Lee/Whitney romance being shoved down our throats every five minutes, and the annoying Johnny hogging all the attention, Nancy is extremely underused (it occurs to me that pairing Lee up with Whitney and moving Johnny into the brat pack has actually seriously made me start to dislike both. After such a promising start, that is a shame). I did feel she was a bit out of order with Mick tonight; after all, he was only trying to do right by a guy who had lost his daughter (and he owed Raine nothing... she had him in Court for a laugh!), primarily because he could not imagine life without his own daughter. She was insulted he didn't feel he could confide in her, and felt he didn't respect her views enough to do so. No, Mick was not obliged to talk to her about anything, and she was a little in the wrong, but it was a nice reminder of just how close they usually are.
And also, just how much Nancy probably doesn't know about her Dad. The Carters are aiming for a fall. A nasty one. Too many lies behind those perfect smiles. I might be getting fed up of Lee and Johnny, but I'm still very entertained by Mick, Linda, Nancy and Stan. So, I'm happy to see this continue.
Denise has forgiven Ian, not because she wanted to, but because of Patrick. Simply put, she has nowhere to go. Ian offers stability for Patrick. As soon as Patrick recovers, if indeed he ever does, she'll drop Ian like a tonne of bricks. And it will be no more than he deserves.
Clever though, to have Ian deliver Cindy's baby, just when it is outed what a weasle he really is. He does have a good side. He's just a very mixed up man.
Much better episode, focusing on character, with brilliant acting all round. I can scarely believe this is the same show as the one on this time last week. It's almost baffling how much the thing is better without the brat pack. Seriously.
Best episode in months. Clearly despite the quick forgiveness the whole Rainie mess is going to continue bubbling under the surface for both Denise/Ian and Mick/Linda. I hope Denise isn't another to hop on the vengeance bandwagon - as pointed out above though there is still the whole issue of Jane to contend with at a later date; I guess that's when things will REALLY blow up.
And to echo the sentiments of others - yes Mimi Keen is a fantastic actress. Probably the best, moving moving birth scenes I've seen on soap in years. She is definitely one to watch for the future. I guess they're definitely lining Cindy up to be basically what Lucy could have been. She is the future of EE.
Adam Woodyat also displayed why he is such an asset to EE. One minute you're rolling your eyes at what a thoughtless selfish scoundrel he is, the next he's genuinely heartwarming.
Episodes like tonight's reminds me why I had faith in DTC in the first place.
I can't believe that the worst episode in ages has been followed by two of the best. Seriously, tonight's episode was absolutely fantastic. Adam Woodyatt once again showing you can go from hating his character to loving him in the space of an episode. He's a great actor, in fact, everyone in tonight's episode was great.
The show will be perfect for me as soon as Stacey returns next week.
I can't believe that the worst episode in ages has been followed by two of the best. Seriously, tonight's episode was absolutely fantastic. Adam Woodyatt once again showing you can go from hating his character to loving him in the space of an episode. He's a great actor, in fact, everyone in tonight's episode was great.
The show will be perfect for me as soon as Stacey returns next week.
I know, I was reminded tonight of how much I do love Ian even if he is a weasel.
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I think it's coming together nicely... Denise's 'forgiveness' then plotting look over the shoulder, an upcoming shocking arrest.
What's the betting Denise goes to the police and tells them where Ian really was, we know they've been suspicious of Ian
Not in that way but she definitely loves him. He's more or less become her father figure.
In 2006 she thought he was her dad but it turned out to be someone else but Patrick basically took her on as his daughter anyway.
But surely Denise wont forgive him, just like that
Liked Mick and Nancy scene as well. My lovely Maddy
Best episode of the week so far.
scenes with mick and nancy and ian and cindy made the ep
There is just the Jane reveal now
OT: Wow, really amazing. I shed tears at some Cindy scenes. Such a talented, talented actress.
Ironic that it's Ian & Phil as well.
She made me cry too and everyone knows I have a very dark heart
0/10 Lauren, yet somehow it didn't even matter :eek:
+ Mimi Keene. The best young actress in soap.
+ The scenes between Ian and Cindy, references to Lou, and Cindy senior.
+ Nancy and Mick, will someone please give Nancy a storyline
- There were no minuses.
Who'da thunk it that a year ago tomorrow was the awful 'teens in the woods' storyline
How can I sit here and make fun of Eastenders every night when they make it so blooming good >:(
Awww, it must of been so hard for you, my heart really bleeds for you...
Doesn't every woman? ;-)
Yep, I liked that bit, it added a nice touch to it.
Tomorrow's episode looks just as good as well, with a similarly small cast.
Firstly... Cindy. Am I happy to see her again? Honestly, I don't know. I've ranged from wondering why the hell she's there (and thinking she was just another pretty face from the Newman era), to not minding her, to actually quite liking her. And I'll give Mimi Keen (that right?) her due tonight - she was really, really good. Not just the giving birth bit, but when she got teary and admitted she didn't feel like she belonged anywhere.
I mean, at the end of the day, she's just a screwed up kid. Yes, she's a spoilt brat, and Ian wasted no time pointing that out. Yes, they've retconned stuff a bit, to hint that Gina and mummy aren't that nice when, originally, they probably should have doted on her (according to what I read). Yes, I hate baby plots, and it's hard to feel sympathy for her when she had the chance to get rid and didn't take it! But despite this, I understood last time why she was so desperate to keep it; it was hers. Something that truly was hers and nobody else's.
Cindy's mum died giving birth to her, and Cindy has probably always had that on her mind. To see her scared the same thing would happen to her was actually just a little bit touching.
In fact, parenthood in general was the theme tonight. That lovely scene with Mick and Nancy was long overdue. With the god awful Lee/Whitney romance being shoved down our throats every five minutes, and the annoying Johnny hogging all the attention, Nancy is extremely underused (it occurs to me that pairing Lee up with Whitney and moving Johnny into the brat pack has actually seriously made me start to dislike both. After such a promising start, that is a shame). I did feel she was a bit out of order with Mick tonight; after all, he was only trying to do right by a guy who had lost his daughter (and he owed Raine nothing... she had him in Court for a laugh!), primarily because he could not imagine life without his own daughter. She was insulted he didn't feel he could confide in her, and felt he didn't respect her views enough to do so. No, Mick was not obliged to talk to her about anything, and she was a little in the wrong, but it was a nice reminder of just how close they usually are.
And also, just how much Nancy probably doesn't know about her Dad. The Carters are aiming for a fall. A nasty one. Too many lies behind those perfect smiles. I might be getting fed up of Lee and Johnny, but I'm still very entertained by Mick, Linda, Nancy and Stan. So, I'm happy to see this continue.
Denise has forgiven Ian, not because she wanted to, but because of Patrick. Simply put, she has nowhere to go. Ian offers stability for Patrick. As soon as Patrick recovers, if indeed he ever does, she'll drop Ian like a tonne of bricks. And it will be no more than he deserves.
Clever though, to have Ian deliver Cindy's baby, just when it is outed what a weasle he really is. He does have a good side. He's just a very mixed up man.
Much better episode, focusing on character, with brilliant acting all round. I can scarely believe this is the same show as the one on this time last week. It's almost baffling how much the thing is better without the brat pack. Seriously.
She will be a stunning young women in a few years.
She has just turned 16 in real life so I think she will be in it a lot more now
And to echo the sentiments of others - yes Mimi Keen is a fantastic actress. Probably the best, moving moving birth scenes I've seen on soap in years. She is definitely one to watch for the future. I guess they're definitely lining Cindy up to be basically what Lucy could have been. She is the future of EE.
Adam Woodyat also displayed why he is such an asset to EE. One minute you're rolling your eyes at what a thoughtless selfish scoundrel he is, the next he's genuinely heartwarming.
Episodes like tonight's reminds me why I had faith in DTC in the first place.
The show will be perfect for me as soon as Stacey returns next week.
I know, I was reminded tonight of how much I do love Ian even if he is a weasel.
Agreed. Adam is fabulous though whatever Ian he's playing
they should get rid of many of the teens and concentrate on those middle aged and old characters as those actors are wonderful
Mimi needs to stay though. wow. She has such a good range for such a young actress