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Liverpool Supporters Thread (Part 18)
Continuation of: Liverpool Supporters Thread (Part 17)
Watched most of that one, and sure BR enjoyed a lot of what was on show too. Majority of the team played superbly, and only Jones unable to control a silly tantrum spoiled an excellent match. Very entertaining with some brilliant footwork from 'Our Kids'.
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I brought it up at 21:39
I meant on this thread , I try not to read that other thread if possible - the quality of posting on this one is so much better
When Coutinho left due to injury we went in to meltdown and was unable to hold the ball. Which was pretty disappointing after such a good half.
I also think as much as I love Gerrard he needs to learn when not to play the long ball. As one of most creative players he should have been the one to dictate play from the back better than what he did. First time I have ever criticised the guy
Moses was awesome great start in a Liverpool shirt I hope we can buy him at the end of the season if he continues like this.
I really do feel as nearly everyone has said here that we need to play better second half. Southampton who are next league match are no mugs they have spent quite a lot over the summer and they are just gelling the team together. This could be a very hard game, not time to go complacent and think its Southampton and we should win easily.
I guess the issue is that with a finite (if large) amount of money the club and manager has to decide whether to invest in players who are likely to be first team and therefore have a direct impact on results or on good squad players who are less likely to play, be a drain on club money if they sit on the bench the whole time but are critical to a season-long push for top 4.
There is an irony in here. Not too long ago it was thought that Shelvey would be the natural successor to Gerrard, he just needed to stop getting sent off and making daft errors, but he was the rough copy for him. So we get rid of him?
Gerrards passes are still there most of the time, but the concentration for a whole match is waning and we are going to end up desperate for his relief/successor before too long. I honestly don't think he's fit enough now to carry for a full 90 minutes every game now - the spark is still there, but it's not firing 100% sadly.
Rodgers told Shelvey where he lay in the scheme of things, that he would be a squad player for two more seasons. He wanted to stay but he also wanted a regular game but he did not want to end up being loaned out here and there for a few seasons, so a sale was arranged. A few clubs were interested he probably choose the right one.
Agree he just hadn't got the endurance for a full game.
With Coutinho out for a few games (it looks like) it'll be interesting to see what happens - play Hendo ahead of Lucas/Gerrard I guess.
Liverpool have confirmed Philippe Coutinho will undergo a procedure on the shoulder injury he sustained in Monday evening's 2-2 draw with Swansea City.
The Brazilian was forced from the field during the second half of the contest at the Liberty Stadium following a challenge with Ashley Williams.
After being assessed by the Reds medical staff, it's been decided that Coutinho will now have surgical stabilisation on the AC joint in his shoulder.
Liverpool hope to have the 21-year-old back in contention again towards the end of October.
I'm really not sure what BR should be doing about Aspas and Sterling. We've learned not to simply write players off after a few bad games as BR has a knack of improving players over a period of time. I suspect what they both need is some game time to gain experience and confidence in the PL. The problem is, can we afford to carry one or both of them for half a season while they gain that experience and confidence? This is where involvement in Europe is a benefit. Without it we're stuck with a few LC games to test these players.
When Suarez returns, he can naturally drop a little deeper behind Sturridge and help in this respect and be a decent out ball for Gerrard/Lucas. Lucas must take some of responsibility for Liverpool's regression in the second half as he, as the defensive midfielder, should also be able to dictate play.
It's a dilemma as I'd rather see Gerrard a little further forward if Coutinho is absent - but we need someone alongside Lucas ideally to facilitate that (much like when Alonso and Mascherano were there). Perhaps when Allen's fit he can sit there with Lucas and allow Gerrard to move forward should Coutinho be unavailable.
I'm not saying Gerrard had a good game but I am saying there were a variety of other reasons the game panned out the way it did. The longer ball was probably our best chance of creating something (as Sturridge continued to make great runs) as the others simply weren't retaining possession well enough when they did get it.
Perhaps Alberto's performance earlier in the week will see him promoted ahead of Aspas in solving the Coutinho puzzle before Suarez comes back.
This is what will happen most games I'd say
Aspas
Suarez----Moses
Sturridge
Or
Hendo
Suarez----Sturridge---Moses (stick in Aspas or Sterling for the Southampton game)
Alberto did himself no harm last night, dunno if he is ready for 90 in the PL though.
I forgot about Allen!
Suarez
Allen
Moses
Sturridge
Anyway. after the Southamption game, I'd temporarily go with...
Sturridge
...as our front four. For Southamption, I'd be tempted with Alberto in the Suarez position considering his form and that we are at home.
Williams will just be gloating about this, no secret he despises Liverpool.
What about Ibe, is he not capable of coming in somewhere? Another tough and talented youngster we have.
If Rodgers had bought Williams I'd have seriously started doubting him!
No way will/should Aspas be in at the minute either.
We can only hope that Aspas & Borini do a "Henderson" and come good after a couple of seasons, although I'm not convinced they have what it takes, time will tell I suppose!Front 3 of Suarez Moses Sturridge for me with Coutinho injured. I agree. I was raging at the time over it and I still am now knowing that Coutinho is to miss over a month :mad:
I know the challenge itself didnt cause the shoulder injury but Williams would have stopped Coutinho by just leaving his leg out, it was that extra bit of bite he put on it that I think winded Coutinho and stopped him protecting his fall properly.
I hope Rodgers has/does speak out about that cynical tackle from Williams. I'd like him to recommend the FA look at it.
I know thats unrealistic but as Sloth says we now miss one of our best players for up to six weeks because Williams is a plank! He carries on with his one yellow card to his name, Grr!
Dilemma for BR now.
Agger will be the next captain
Even though it is a great loss to lose Coutinho at this point of the season..But not as bad as we think with LS coming back in....I'm more worried about our lack luster displays in the 2nd half of matches
I think Agger will take over from Gerrard and, if he continues as he is right now, Henderson will take over from Agger.