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Do you feel sympathy for Robin Williams
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Do you feel sympathy for Robin Williams and not for Peaches Geldof?
There seems to be a lot of sympathy for Robin Williams and there was quite a lot of bitterness towards PG ?
I was wondering why ?
Both had an addiction, alcohol or drugs.
Both suffered with depression.
Both had children.
Both are now sadly gone.
There seems to be a lot of support and affection toward Robin Williams, I was just curious to know what the difference was, or even if there was one?
There seems to be a lot of sympathy for Robin Williams and there was quite a lot of bitterness towards PG ?
I was wondering why ?
Both had an addiction, alcohol or drugs.
Both suffered with depression.
Both had children.
Both are now sadly gone.
There seems to be a lot of support and affection toward Robin Williams, I was just curious to know what the difference was, or even if there was one?
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Their families are the ones who get to live the rest of their lives with their grief and thinking "could I have done more?" "could I have stopped him/her?" so regarding sympathy, mine goes to the ones left behind.
RW and PG suffered illnesses and died through them. RIP to them both.
You didn't see anything ?
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Also have sympathy for their families
Oh there was! She was vilified by countless columnists and public opinion in the media!
OP, the only reason(s) I can think of is that A) Peaches was hypocritical by advocating attached parenting etc when it was clear that she was shooting up whilst her children were in the other room.
Both cases are extremely sad and shows that depression and problems know no bounds. I have sympathy for both but I think the reasons I have outlined are perhaps the reason why one case is viewed far more sympathetically than the other.
I didn't absorb all the judgement and hatred that you allude to.
I hate all the "celeb" gossip shit.
Thanks for reply.
I was looking at it in terms of perception and the way people view illness as such.
As I think they both had depression and neither could cope.
Peaches is considered selfish for what she did, but does RW make him less selfish? They were both ill.
Just to say, I've lost a parent through suicide, so I'm not being a judge, I'm curious to see why people see suicide differently, if indeed they do.
I'll be honest and admit that I didn't know she suffered from depression either. She was one of those rather pointless "celebrities" who seemed to be famous for no reason and I took no interest in reading about her. I'll also admit that I wasn't exactly sympathetic towards her due to the fact that she was taking heroin in the presence of her children.
The difference between how you are viewed if your depressed.
I think they have both been judged on how they lived rather than how they died and one has garnered more sympathy than the other due to that.
It has been established that Peaches had lapsed and gone back to drugs. I don't think depression was specifically mentioned in the case of Peaches but she obviously was an unhappy individual after having lost her mum so young and by choosing to take drugs for whatever reason. In my opinion, suicide is NOT selfish because the person who takes their own life is in a place of utter despair and is unable to think of others (selfishness is when someone chooses not to think of others).
I have had two family members commit suicide.
Both very unhappy and addictive people, yet in reality both had everything to live for.
So both depressive people.
It's like if two people die in car accidents and one of them was drink driving. Both deaths are terrible but one could easily have been avoided.
You think an addict takes drugs for pleasure?
Far from it. Have you seen an addict rattling? The physical pain and mental anguish caused by not taking the drug. There's no pleasure, only relief.
A close family member has been an addict for over a decade and I have nothing but sympathy for him.
Pleasure? I don't think so.
To be addictive to either alcohol or drugs so much it takes over your live then in theory your not really a happy person.
It must be horrible to be in so much pain you want to, or don't consider the fact you may die.
I will readily admit that I have real difficulty understanding why anyone would start using hard drugs. I have no personal experience of them, as all I ever did was a bit of weed in my youth.
I have known people who started messing with hard drugs and every single one of them is damaged, both physically and mentally - and over a fairly short period of time. I really don't get it, in the same way that many people do not understand mental illness.
As a manic depressive, I do understand mental illness and why people commit suicide, or attempt it, because I attempted it myself as a teenager. Depression is a horrible illness. At the end of the day, your own mind is attacking you and it's hard to stand up to that.
People try to rationalise mental illness and depression and that's the first mistake. I suppose it must be difficult for someone whose mind functions perfectly to be able to understand clinical depression because the illness is totally irrational and that's the problem.
Think about all victims of suicide, not just the famous ones.
RW was an alcoholic for many years, and could that have made him depressed or was it depression that made him drink?
Then could the same be said of PG did depression make her turn to drugs or did the drug make her depressed?
Either way I'm sad they are both gone.
The fact that you think an addict takes drugs for 'pleasure' shows how much you know.