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No Birmingam Bombing inquiry

drillbitdrillbit Posts: 1,687
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There you go folks, millions gets spent on the saville inquiry (bloody sunday) in NI and yet theres no justice for victims of IRA terrorism.

Smacks of double standards don't you think, some victims are more important than others.

If you're going to have inquirys lets have them across the board i say.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-26920619
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    skp20040skp20040 Posts: 66,874
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    Whilst I feel for those who lost people in the bombing once has to ask if there would be any point, it's 40 years down the line and as they say there is no new evidence, and if they did find some would those responsible be holding an amnesty letter ?

    If at some time they get new evidence then ok reopen the enquiry, but until such time what would it achieve .
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    AZZURRI 06AZZURRI 06 Posts: 11,173
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    What would be the point? Someone put bombs in pub or pubs, innocent people were slaughtered Same as what was occurring over here on a daily basis.. If British `intelligence` were involved we will never hear about it. Let the dead rest.
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    smudges dadsmudges dad Posts: 36,989
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    AZZURRI 06 wrote: »
    What would be the point? Someone put bombs in pub or pubs, innocent people were slaughtered Same as what was occurring over here on a daily basis.. If British `intelligence` were involved we will never hear about it. Let the dead rest.

    Did you say the same about the Bloody Sunday inquiry?
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    getzlsgetzls Posts: 4,007
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    They don't want to upset the Republicans.
    Do that too much and the're might be more bombs in Birmingham pubs.

    The IRA were happy to let those men rot in jail.
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    andyknandykn Posts: 66,849
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    drillbit wrote: »
    There you go folks, millions gets spent on the saville inquiry (bloody sunday) in NI and yet theres no justice for victims of IRA terrorism.

    Smacks of double standards don't you think, some victims are more important than others.

    If you're going to have inquirys lets have them across the board i say.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-26920619

    So how would an enquiry help with "no new evidence that would assist us in bringing anyone to justice for the pub bombings".

    At least the Bloody Sunday enquiry had perpetrators to question.
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    Wolfman13Wolfman13 Posts: 1,579
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    andykn wrote: »
    So how would an enquiry help with "no new evidence that would assist us in bringing anyone to justice for the pub bombings".

    At least the Bloody Sunday enquiry had perpetrators to question.

    Like who?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 32,379
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    skp20040 wrote: »
    Whilst I feel for those who lost people in the bombing once has to ask if there would be any point, it's 40 years down the line and as they say there is no new evidence, and if they did find some would those responsible be holding an amnesty letter ?

    If at some time they get new evidence then ok reopen the enquiry, but until such time what would it achieve .

    The police will investigate it not an inquiry. I see no point in holding a new inquiry.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 32,379
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    andykn wrote: »
    So how would an enquiry help with "no new evidence that would assist us in bringing anyone to justice for the pub bombings".

    At least the Bloody Sunday enquiry had perpetrators to question.

    It was a waste of money.
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    Get Den WattsGet Den Watts Posts: 6,039
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    drillbit wrote: »
    There you go folks, millions gets spent on the saville inquiry (bloody sunday) in NI and yet theres no justice for victims of IRA terrorism.

    Smacks of double standards don't you think, some victims are more important than others.

    If you're going to have inquirys lets have them across the board i say.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-26920619

    The bomb obviously planted itself. Move along. Nothing to see here. ;-)
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    valkayvalkay Posts: 15,726
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    How many millions have been spent on Bloody Sunday, Stephen Lawrence,Hillsborough, etc, time to drop all of them too.
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    Nessun DormaNessun Dorma Posts: 12,846
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    drillbit wrote: »
    There you go folks, millions gets spent on the saville inquiry (bloody sunday) in NI and yet theres no justice for victims of IRA terrorism.

    Smacks of double standards don't you think, some victims are more important than others.

    If you're going to have inquirys lets have them across the board i say.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-26920619

    Just as scandalous is the lack of enquiry, investigation and prosecution of the police officers who lied in the initial police investigation, which saw six innocent men jailed for crimes they didn't commit.
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    jmclaughjmclaugh Posts: 63,999
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    woodbush wrote: »
    The police will investigate it not an inquiry. I see no point in holding a new inquiry.

    It is the police who have said there is no new evdience that would assit with bringing anyone to justice and therefore there will be no new inquiry. It was the expected outcome.
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    Nessun DormaNessun Dorma Posts: 12,846
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    jmclaugh wrote: »
    It is the police who have said there is no new evdience that would assit with bringing anyone to justice and therefore there will be no new inquiry. It was the expected outcome.

    Probably because that any further inquiry would highlight more corruption in the police force charged with the initial investigation.
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    jmclaughjmclaugh Posts: 63,999
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    Probably because that any further inquiry would highlight more corruption in the police force charged with the initial investigation.

    That sounds like speculation with no evidence so to use the word "probably" is ott.
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    muntamunta Posts: 18,285
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    jmclaugh wrote: »
    That sounds like speculation with no evidence so to use the word "probably" is ott.

    Without an enquiry, speculation is all that is left ;)
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    jmclaughjmclaugh Posts: 63,999
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    munta wrote: »
    Without an enquiry, speculation is all that is left ;)

    Not so, an enquiry is to ask something, not to hold a formal investigation. :)
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    Nick1966Nick1966 Posts: 15,742
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    drillbit wrote: »
    There you go folks, millions gets spent on the saville inquiry (bloody sunday) in NI and yet theres no justice for victims of IRA terrorism.

    Smacks of double standards don't you think, some victims are more important than others.

    Have the police actually found the people who bombed the pubs in Birmingham ?
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    Nessun DormaNessun Dorma Posts: 12,846
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    Nick1966 wrote: »
    Have the police actually found the people who bombed the pubs in Birmingham ?

    No, there is no concerted effort to investigate the crime. Which, in itself, asks even more questions.
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    Nick1966Nick1966 Posts: 15,742
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    woodbush wrote: »
    [Bloody Sunday enquiry] was a waste of money.

    We can be thankful that British Army killed seven teenagers in a UK town far away from London and not somewhere closer to home like say Preston or Coventry on Bristol.
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    smudges dadsmudges dad Posts: 36,989
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    Nick1966 wrote: »
    We can be thankful that British Army killed seven teenagers in a UK town far away from London and not somewhere closer to home like say Preston or Coventry on Bristol.
    Yes, it was the IRA that killed innocent people in places like Warrington, Birmingham and Guildford, not the British Army (just in case you'd forgotten).
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    jmclaughjmclaugh Posts: 63,999
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    Nick1966 wrote: »
    We can be thankful that British Army killed seven teenagers in a UK town far away from London and not somewhere closer to home like say Preston or Coventry on Bristol.

    Which has nothing to do as to whether it was a waste of money or not.
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    Nick1966Nick1966 Posts: 15,742
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    Yes, it was the IRA that killed innocent people in places like Warrington, Birmingham and Guildford, not the British Army (just in case you'd forgotten).

    You are absolutely right.

    One anticiaptes the IRA to kill innocent people. The IRA are a horrid terrorist organisation with violence as their means.

    I do not expect the British Army to act in the same way. I do not expect taxpayers' money to fund a state run organisation to kill seven teenagers in a British town.
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    andyknandykn Posts: 66,849
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    Wolfman13 wrote: »
    Like who?

    The people who were there.
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    drillbitdrillbit Posts: 1,687
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    Nick1966 wrote: »

    I do not expect the British Army to act in the same way. I do not expect taxpayers' money to fund a state run organisation to kill seven teenagers in a British town.

    But the BA didn't act in the same way, the BA didn't go around planting bombs in pubs and shops killing innocent people like the provos did.

    And as for bloody sunday as awful as it was ...the question of why martin mcguinness was doing there armed with a tommy gun was never truly answered..the soldiers said they were fired on first...and the provos at the time were only too eager for martyrs so as to put fire in belly of the nationlist youth.
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    Wolfman13Wolfman13 Posts: 1,579
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    andykn wrote: »
    The people who were there.

    Oh like Martin McGuinness, good luck getting an interview with him as he seems to develop amnesia when the topic comes up.
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