I know someone who buys from websites because it caters for his fetish and no other site really does it. At least the person who made the videos gets paid instead of making the video then it getting pirated all round the free sites and torrents
I am sure flying goggles and celery sticks are catered for...
I suppose this current approach is quite clever in it's simplicity. Use "protect the children" as your 'flag' and the technically illiterate parents and those who basically can't be arsed will just mumble "Oh that seems like a good idea" and blindly go along with it.
I know someone who buys from websites because it caters for his fetish and no other site really does it. At least the person who made the videos gets paid instead of making the video then it getting pirated all round the free sites and torrents
A lot of sites offer better, higher quality videos if you pay for access. But then, as you say, at least the people get paid. Like it or not, porn is still just as much an industry as any other and the people working in it don't set out to do it for free.
Simon "Ben Dover" Honey has been very vocal about the impact that the free sites have had on the industry. There's an interesting interview with him here.
I do wonder why some men have to hide it from their partners etc. We have always been open in my family about such stuff.
Obviously i'm generalising here, but I do think 'some' men hide it from 'some' women because those women would think their man was being unfaithful or a 'pervert' for looking at such images.
I suppose this current approach is quite clever in it's simplicity. Use "protect the children" as your 'flag' and the technically illiterate parents and those who basically can't be arsed will just mumble "Oh that seems like a good idea" and blindly go along with it.
First rule of politics, demonize a marginal (perfectly legal) issue and raise awareness that would normally have simply not been there, then get the masses to turn on themselves using flaming torches and pitchforks!
So, they'll only be protecting the children with credit cards (who choose not to use free sites), which considering you need to be 18 to have one means they'll be "protecting" exactly 0 children.
I was wondering about this as well - but it also mentions blocking debit cards that are available to under-18s so I am wondering if there is a problem distinguishing the two. Seems a bit surprising though, I would have thought the card prefix (first 4? digits) should be simple enough to filter out.
If the prefixes aren't different, the banks seriously missed a trick there.
Of course if you're someone under 18 who is desperate for the kind of stuff that isn't available for free, nicking your dad's credit card is the least of your problems...
Oh, and they used the word "voluntary", so that's all right then. No such thing as 'legislative blackmail'...
So you think they are trying to stop adults from viewing certain types of porn? I find that hard to believe tbh I have not viewed a lot of porn myself because as a woman I am not that interested. I do wonder why some men have to hide it from their partners etc. We have always been open in my family about such stuff.
Yes, that's clearly what they're doing, if they block paid access to all sites outside of the EU, that cuts off a huge amount of the market and whatever is left is more strictly controlled (and likely to become even more so in the future).
Obviously free sites hosted outside of the EU will not be affected (apart from through any need to circumvent the Great Firewall of Britain to view them).
However, because this is only going to affect sites that you would need a credit card to view it clearly has nothing to do with protecting children who couldn't view those sites anyway.
Nooo ... some of the channels on sky do show some weird stuff late at night. I don't view adult channels they are really just for men imo
One of them is owned by the owner of the Daily Express and Star, Tory supporting newspapers. Any attempt to take away part of his business will result in a savage attack of the party in his papers. Might be a small price to pay for Cameron and Co in their pursuit to firewall pornography away "from the children".
To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if this is the eventual outcome.
It's already the case in nearby Iceland.
What would need to be researched thoroughly is what sort of people are turning to online pornography and what the consequences of blocking access will be. I suspect it won't turn said people to monks, nuns and celibacy.
What would need to be researched thoroughly is what sort of people are turning to online pornography and what the consequences of blocking access will be. I suspect it won't turn said people to monks, nuns and celibacy.
These moves are clearly designed to combat the declining birth rates of the indigenous populations though I suspect the pharmaceutical industries would also appreciate the boost in sales of clap treatment...
Would anybodies life be over if they couldn't view porn on the net? Erm No ... I can understand that some of you guys think its your human right to view what you want to without the Government acting like Big Brother. I am sure you are clever enough to find a way round it so you can get your daily fix. I'm not trying to belittle anyone because I don't judge people btw.
My life wouldn't be over if I couldn't post on Digitalspy, play Skyrim or eat bacon. I'd still like to be able to do these things.
Yet another ill thought out policy that will not work.
Many porn sites do not advertise the fact they are porn sites on CC statements. Many go via PayPal or use an innocuous name. So while the CC companies are going to be searching for companies like Bouncy Big Bazookas all of the companies are going to be using names like Northwest Promotions or Aardvark Industries (any similarities to any real company names is entirely coincidental). When it gets to paypal I assume there is no way that any CC company can find out the intended recipient of a payment. So does the government intend to ban PayPal?
So this isn't a scary proposition because 1) hardly any one pays for porn and 2) even if they did, theres no way the government or CC companies could identify you have. No... The scary thing is that the Government once again has shown a complete lack of understanding of anything remotely technical and has decided to use that poor knowledge to become a moral arbiter of taste!
I never had an instance of seeing someone I know in porn yet. Has anyone? (Apart from that bloke who wrote that song of course.)
I know loads of women in the porn industry, escorts, strippers etc., by their real names, as many if not most, use fake names while they are 'working'. That's part of my misspent youth. Some of their telephone numbers are even in my phone book and/or Outlook contacts. :eek:
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I am sure flying goggles and celery sticks are catered for...
I can almost see you channelling Mrs Lovejoy
I suppose this current approach is quite clever in it's simplicity. Use "protect the children" as your 'flag' and the technically illiterate parents and those who basically can't be arsed will just mumble "Oh that seems like a good idea" and blindly go along with it.
A lot of sites offer better, higher quality videos if you pay for access. But then, as you say, at least the people get paid. Like it or not, porn is still just as much an industry as any other and the people working in it don't set out to do it for free.
Simon "Ben Dover" Honey has been very vocal about the impact that the free sites have had on the industry. There's an interesting interview with him here.
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/i-asked-ben-dover-why-he-wants-to-sue-file-sharers
Obviously i'm generalising here, but I do think 'some' men hide it from 'some' women because those women would think their man was being unfaithful or a 'pervert' for looking at such images.
I happened to wake up one night and switched on sky to see some fat guy in a nappy being breast fed :eek: It gave me nightmares lol
First rule of politics, demonize a marginal (perfectly legal) issue and raise awareness that would normally have simply not been there, then get the masses to turn on themselves using flaming torches and pitchforks!
If the prefixes aren't different, the banks seriously missed a trick there.
Of course if you're someone under 18 who is desperate for the kind of stuff that isn't available for free, nicking your dad's credit card is the least of your problems...
Oh, and they used the word "voluntary", so that's all right then. No such thing as 'legislative blackmail'...
Yes, that's clearly what they're doing, if they block paid access to all sites outside of the EU, that cuts off a huge amount of the market and whatever is left is more strictly controlled (and likely to become even more so in the future).
Obviously free sites hosted outside of the EU will not be affected (apart from through any need to circumvent the Great Firewall of Britain to view them).
However, because this is only going to affect sites that you would need a credit card to view it clearly has nothing to do with protecting children who couldn't view those sites anyway.
Nooo ... some of the channels on sky do show some weird stuff late at night. I don't view adult channels they are really just for men imo
We're on the road to having pornography being made illegal in the UK, that's the Tories ultimate aim "to protect the children".
I believe you were tuned into Sky Living and Sexcetra, I recall seeing the episode
To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if this is the eventual outcome.
e2a : but not at all surprised by the 'nightmares' bit
What would need to be researched thoroughly is what sort of people are turning to online pornography and what the consequences of blocking access will be. I suspect it won't turn said people to monks, nuns and celibacy.
No need currently, but in the past.
My life wouldn't be over if I couldn't post on Digitalspy, play Skyrim or eat bacon. I'd still like to be able to do these things.
Many porn sites do not advertise the fact they are porn sites on CC statements. Many go via PayPal or use an innocuous name. So while the CC companies are going to be searching for companies like Bouncy Big Bazookas all of the companies are going to be using names like Northwest Promotions or Aardvark Industries (any similarities to any real company names is entirely coincidental). When it gets to paypal I assume there is no way that any CC company can find out the intended recipient of a payment. So does the government intend to ban PayPal?
So this isn't a scary proposition because 1) hardly any one pays for porn and 2) even if they did, theres no way the government or CC companies could identify you have. No... The scary thing is that the Government once again has shown a complete lack of understanding of anything remotely technical and has decided to use that poor knowledge to become a moral arbiter of taste!
I guess the later on in the process you realise, the worse it gets with that one.
I never had an instance of seeing someone I know in porn yet. Has anyone? (Apart from that bloke who wrote that song of course.)
Yes I was ... that programme is so funny. I used to watch Euro Trash years ago and laugh at that as well
I know loads of women in the porn industry, escorts, strippers etc., by their real names, as many if not most, use fake names while they are 'working'. That's part of my misspent youth. Some of their telephone numbers are even in my phone book and/or Outlook contacts.