Because although race is an artificial construct judging people by this artificial construct is still racist, it's not that complex really if you think about it.
Not really that artificial when certain drugs only work on certain ethnicities.
Not really that artificial when certain drugs only work on certain ethnicities.
Certain people have certain blood groups, do you now want to chuck out all the AB negatives?
It does actually make more biological sense to group people by blood type than skin colour if you really are concerned about medical issues.
Certain people have certain blood groups, do you now want to chuck out all the AB negatives?
It does actually make more biological sense to group people by blood type than skin colour if you really are concerned about medical issues.
But that's the point and the root of the stupidity, you haven't. There is nothing that can be defined as English or even British Blood, we are as mixed a race as it is possible to get.
But that's the point and the root of the stupidity, you haven't. There is nothing that can be defined as English or even British Blood, we are as mixed a race as it is possible to get.
You keep believing that and re-writing history darling.
I don't need to believe it's solid science and I don't believe even the BNP can be so unbelievably stupid not to realise this.
It's irrelevant whether what you are saying is correct, if going on what you are saying is true it means absolutely nothing on what is going on in the world today.
It's irrelevant whether what you are saying is correct, if going on what you are saying is true it means absolutely nothing on what is going on in the world today.
Yeah of course it is, the BNP has no real way of defining who is British or not apart from their own insular bigoted views.
The whole BNP is a sham.
Yeah of course it is, the BNP has no real way of defining who is British or not apart from their own insular bigoted views.
The whole BNP is a sham.
Yeah it only has hundreds, if not thousands of years of history on how Britain was able to become how it is. Don't be so naieve to think it was only this way from the last forty years.
Yeah it only has hundreds, if not thousands of years of history on how Britain was able to become how it is. Don't be so naieve to think it was only this way from the last forty years.
You're the naive one if you trace your ancestry back thousands of years you will find plenty of your ancestors didn't originate from Britain, so if that is your defence I'd start packing you bags your about to be deported.
Your the naive one if you trace your ancestry back thousands of years you will find plenty of your ancestors didn't originate from Britain, so if that is your defence I'd start packing you bags your about to be deported.
Sod it. I'm going to take your advice and emigrate to the sea.
So is anyone on the panel not from the BNP? How where the audience chosen, are they BNP members? What I'm really asking is, is this going to be a debate or a party political broadcast (with a chicken apparantly)?
maybe the audience was chosen ... '''with the same care ''' the BBC choose question time audiences with ...:D what is good for the goose
Yeah it only has hundreds, if not thousands of years of history on how Britain was able to become how it is. Don't be so naieve to think it was only this way from the last forty years.
You're contradicting yourself. Whip said that British blood is as mixed race as it's possible to get, and he's right. You take the thousands of years of history this island has and you get one wave of immigration after another. There is no such thing as British blood or English blood.
You're contradicting yourself. Whip said that British blood is as mixed race as it's possible to get, and he's right. You take the thousands of years of history this island has and you get one wave of immigration after another. There is no such thing as British blood or English blood.
Tbh you've risen to her bait.
I couldn't give seven ****s if scientifically my blood is mixed. All I know is that this country was built and prospered through hundreds of years of my ancestors toil. To try and claim that any old sod can claim to be British just by holding a passport for five years is a fallacy, an insult and a total disgrace. You and others can harp on all you like about everyone sharing African blood, but why stop there, why don't we all call ourselves fish? This country as a nation state has always been white, it was built with common european values and has been ethnically the same for a thousand years.
I couldn't give seven ****s if scientifically my blood is mixed. All I know is that this country was built and prospered through hundreds of years of my ancestors toil. To try and claim that any old sod can claim to be British just by holding a passport for five years is a fallacy, an insult and a total disgrace. You and others can harp on all you like about everyone sharing African blood, but why stop there, why don't we all call ourselves fish? This country as a nation state has always been white, it was built with common european values and has been ethnically the same for a thousand years.
So the question is, how far back do a person's ancestors have to have lived in Britain for them to be classed as British in the eyes of the BNP? If someone's family has lived here for a hundred years would that make them British or does it have to be two hundred, three, longer? My mum's family have lived in Britain since the 30s, does that make me British bearing in mind that my dad's mother was Welsh ?
The whole idea of the BNP question time show.........was to make people tune in regardless of the questions and answers.......it showed that the party is not a gathering of skinhead stormtroopers.....and by the comments here many did watch it.
So the question is, how far back do a person's ancestors have to have lived in Britain for them to be classed as British in the eyes of the BNP? If someone's family has lived here for a hundred years would that make them British or does it have to be two hundred, three, longer? My mum's family have lived in Britain since the 30s, does that make me British bearing in mind that my dad's mother was Welsh ?
Not sure what the BNP consider as I ain't part of them. I would say a good solid grounding of 100 years plus. Someone in my family traced the family tree and that went as far back as the 1700s, it went from North Wiltshire to Bath. I'm proud of that and I don't understand why others try and devalue that. If I was West Indian or Asian then i'd be just as happy tracing my heritage back to wherever my ancestors came from, and would consider myself deep down 'one of them'.
The whole idea of the BNP question time show.........was to make people tune in regardless of the questions and answers.......it showed that the party is not a gathering of skinhead stormtroopers.....and by the comments here many did watch it.
Looks like they ensured the audience was firmly made up of the over 70's, why was that? Couldn't they get a younger audience without showing off the skinhead stormtroopers?
I couldn't give seven ****s if scientifically my blood is mixed. All I know is that this country was built and prospered through hundreds of years of my ancestors toil. To try and claim that any old sod can claim to be British just by holding a passport for five years is a fallacy, an insult and a total disgrace. You and others can harp on all you like about everyone sharing African blood, but why stop there, why don't we all call ourselves fish? This country as a nation state has always been white, it was built with common european values and has been ethnically the same for a thousand years.
They don't become British by "holding a psssport for 5 years", they work hard for years to get that passport which says they are British. A person who has gained British (or any non-birth) citizenship has done more to deserve it than any "native". They've had to live in the country for X years, spend a lot of money, study for months on end and then sit through an exam and swear allegiance to that country to prove how much they really want that word on thier passport. They've done far more than us who were born here. I highly doubt many of the BNP lunatics would even be able to read the citizenship test let alone pass it!
What have you done to deserve the title? Been born here? Well done. Your ancestors may have "toiled for hundreds of years", you didn't. I didn't either. I don't feel as though I've done anything to have a British passport other than pay £70 odd and fill out a form, hardly a triumph.
The whole idea of the BNP question time show.........was to make people tune in regardless of the questions and answers.......it showed that the party is not a gathering of skinhead stormtroopers.....and by the comments here many did watch it.
I'm sorry i missed it. Did they explain the bnp views on Jewish people with British nationality?
i agree .you cant just get a passport and become really british .you have to be born in the uk from british people from the british/ irish stock hundreds of years back . its an island thing ..
i agree .you cant just get a passport and become really british .you have to be born in the uk from british people from the british/ irish stock hundreds of years back . its an island thing ..
Good job we kicked out that American descended interloper Winston Churchill. God knows what would have happened if he had been allowed to stay in the UK just because he was born here. He might have gone into politics or something. He might even have become prime minister. Then what would have happened? Your lot might even have lost the war. Terrible prospect that.
Seriously though. We are not ****ing "stock". We are people and we will not be herded, categorised and graded for purity by the likes of the BNP. It is beneath British dignity to accept such a thing. If you don't understand that then you are less British than the guy who arrived yesterday.
But that's the point and the root of the stupidity, you haven't. There is nothing that can be defined as English or even British Blood, we are as mixed a race as it is possible to get.
Britain is indeed a mixed group -- but all the different tribes and ethnicities were of Northern/Western Europe, racially the same.
To say 'we are as mixed a race as it is possible to get.' is simply nonsense.
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Not really that artificial when certain drugs only work on certain ethnicities.
It does actually make more biological sense to group people by blood type than skin colour if you really are concerned about medical issues.
So it's all in the blood?
Always knew i had English blood!
So you're trying to redefine the term "racist"?
Well I guess that's one way for the BNP to win....
You keep believing that and re-writing history darling.
It's irrelevant whether what you are saying is correct, if going on what you are saying is true it means absolutely nothing on what is going on in the world today.
The whole BNP is a sham.
Yeah it only has hundreds, if not thousands of years of history on how Britain was able to become how it is. Don't be so naieve to think it was only this way from the last forty years.
Sod it. I'm going to take your advice and emigrate to the sea.
maybe the audience was chosen ... '''with the same care ''' the BBC choose question time audiences with ...:D what is good for the goose
I suppose I'll never know BNPs take on endogenous growth theory.
Tbh you've risen to her bait.
I couldn't give seven ****s if scientifically my blood is mixed. All I know is that this country was built and prospered through hundreds of years of my ancestors toil. To try and claim that any old sod can claim to be British just by holding a passport for five years is a fallacy, an insult and a total disgrace. You and others can harp on all you like about everyone sharing African blood, but why stop there, why don't we all call ourselves fish? This country as a nation state has always been white, it was built with common european values and has been ethnically the same for a thousand years.
Not sure what the BNP consider as I ain't part of them. I would say a good solid grounding of 100 years plus. Someone in my family traced the family tree and that went as far back as the 1700s, it went from North Wiltshire to Bath. I'm proud of that and I don't understand why others try and devalue that. If I was West Indian or Asian then i'd be just as happy tracing my heritage back to wherever my ancestors came from, and would consider myself deep down 'one of them'.
They don't become British by "holding a psssport for 5 years", they work hard for years to get that passport which says they are British. A person who has gained British (or any non-birth) citizenship has done more to deserve it than any "native". They've had to live in the country for X years, spend a lot of money, study for months on end and then sit through an exam and swear allegiance to that country to prove how much they really want that word on thier passport. They've done far more than us who were born here. I highly doubt many of the BNP lunatics would even be able to read the citizenship test let alone pass it!
What have you done to deserve the title? Been born here? Well done. Your ancestors may have "toiled for hundreds of years", you didn't. I didn't either. I don't feel as though I've done anything to have a British passport other than pay £70 odd and fill out a form, hardly a triumph.
I'm sorry i missed it. Did they explain the bnp views on Jewish people with British nationality?
Good job we kicked out that American descended interloper Winston Churchill. God knows what would have happened if he had been allowed to stay in the UK just because he was born here. He might have gone into politics or something. He might even have become prime minister. Then what would have happened? Your lot might even have lost the war. Terrible prospect that.
Seriously though. We are not ****ing "stock". We are people and we will not be herded, categorised and graded for purity by the likes of the BNP. It is beneath British dignity to accept such a thing. If you don't understand that then you are less British than the guy who arrived yesterday.
Britain is indeed a mixed group -- but all the different tribes and ethnicities were of Northern/Western Europe, racially the same.
To say 'we are as mixed a race as it is possible to get.' is simply nonsense.