What films for a cultural education for a teenager?

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,488
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    Looking at this list I think I've seen 10 or less of these films. Love how everyone's suggesting highly inappropriate films... The Godfather is an 18, showing it to a 14 year old maybe not a smart idea...
  • Johnny ClayJohnny Clay Posts: 5,326
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    Love how everyone's suggesting highly inappropriate films... The Godfather is an 18, showing it to a 14 year old maybe not a smart idea...
    You have a point. We may sneer all we like at ratings, but they're there for a good reason at times. They're still at an impressionable age, and you don't know you've hit a nerve until you do, so to speak.

    Unless showing the difference between a PG and 18 was part of the idea, their introduction to cinema can be easily kept above board.
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    Looking at this list I think I've seen 10 or less of these films. Love how everyone's suggesting highly inappropriate films... The Godfather is an 18, showing it to a 14 year old maybe not a smart idea...

    The Godfather is rated 15 now.

    http://www.bbfc.co.uk/CFF033276/
  • SunnySunshineSunnySunshine Posts: 5,399
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    Looking at this list I think I've seen 10 or less of these films. Love how everyone's suggesting highly inappropriate films... The Godfather is an 18, showing it to a 14 year old maybe not a smart idea...

    I'm definitely saving the more challenging films for later, but do want to include classics of all genres. I really want them to see Carrie - especially because there's about to be a remake, but I need to watch a few films with them and watch it again myself in order to gauge if that's going to be a good idea or not.

    I'm very mindful of this I promise.
  • SunnySunshineSunnySunshine Posts: 5,399
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    You have a point. We may sneer all we like at ratings, but they're there for a good reason at times. They're still at an impressionable age, and you don't know you've hit a nerve until you do, so to speak.

    Unless showing the difference between a PG and 18 was part of the idea, their introduction to cinema can be easily kept above board.

    I plan to work up to things. I try to remember at all times that they are not desensitized in the same way that we are.

    I would hate to upset them or give them nightmares - or put them off some types of films.
  • SunnySunshineSunnySunshine Posts: 5,399
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    The Godfather is rated 15 now.

    http://www.bbfc.co.uk/CFF033276/

    Pacing's an issue as well as length. I'm just not sure they're ready to sit through The Godfather yet, in addition to the suitability.
  • spiney2spiney2 Posts: 27,058
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    thats a fine list sunnysunshine. but i assume u wont be showing them The Evil Dead ? wonderfully witty film though it is ......

    ...... cant remember if Local Hero was mentioned. at the time it was hailed as a new Ealing Comedy and renaissance of British Film Industry. then David Putnam failed in America .......
  • SunnySunshineSunnySunshine Posts: 5,399
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    spiney2 wrote: »
    thats a fine list sunnysunshine. but i assume u wont be showing them The Evil Dead ? wonderfully witty film though it is ......

    ...... cant remember if Local Hero was mentioned. at the time it was hailed as a new Ealing Comedy and renaissance of British Film Industry. then David Putnam failed in America .......

    Maybe near the end, maybe just my eldest niece. I've got them for two years or so from September. Maybe longer if they put down roots in my area, or the younger one decides to go to the same VIth form as her sister.

    *adds Local Hero*
  • StykerStyker Posts: 49,795
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    Stand By Me.

    Back To The Futures.

    Clue

    Karate Kid 1 and 2 original

    Teenwolf

    Loads of other 80's films,

    90 fils like Forest Gump, Never been Kissed, Wedding singer etc etc
  • FashionFashion Posts: 5,017
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    Heavenly Creatures, only the ending justifies the 18 rating.

    Pleasantville- which might show them the difference between conservatism and liberalism.
  • SunnySunshineSunnySunshine Posts: 5,399
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    I'm adding all of these to the long list. Also considering Memento, Reservoir Dogs, The Lives of Others...
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,488
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    I'm definitely saving the more challenging films for later, but do want to include classics of all genres. I really want them to see Carrie - especially because there's about to be a remake, but I need to watch a few films with them and watch it again myself in order to gauge if that's going to be a good idea or not.

    I'm very mindful of this I promise.

    I was just pointing it out, not critizing (I'm not 18 yet, but I've seen a few 18s - Bruno, Inglorious Basterds, episodes of The Inbetweeners and Breaking Bad S1). I think adults are more shocked by the content of films than teenagers, especially strong language, sex and drugs (Fun fact - The BBFC has never recieved a complaint from a terrified child about Jaws, but has recieved several from adults who believe it is too scary for children)..

    Also, I'd start off with more recent films and work backwards, so as not to throw them in at the deep end. I'd maybe start with Slumdog Millionaire, Minority Report, 127 Hours and then move on to The Italian Job and some of the bond films (not all of them just the good ones like Casino Royale, Goldfinger, etc.) before going deeper
  • StykerStyker Posts: 49,795
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    I'm adding all of these to the long list. Also considering Memento, Reservoir Dogs, The Lives of Others...

    I wouldn't reccomend Reservoir Dogs for 2 teenage girls. I think the Tarintino films are quite disturbing and unsuitable.

    You are going to push them to do their school work as well aren't you? I made the mistake of watching too much telly and not doing my homework. Paying the price for it now.
  • SunnySunshineSunnySunshine Posts: 5,399
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    Styker wrote: »
    I wouldn't reccomend Reservoir Dogs for 2 teenage girls. I think the Tarintino films are quite disturbing and unsuitable.

    You are going to push them to do their school work as well aren't you? I made the mistake of watching too much telly and not doing my homework. Paying the price for it now.

    Their studies are definitely the priority. Their studies are the whole reason they are moving in with me. They can stay at the same schools, and still have their own rooms to study in at in my house.

    I'm planning to replicate the routine they're used to at home - but adding Movie Night. I think they'll have time for it because they won't have to help out with their younger siblings.

    I'd have them all move in with me , but they would have to share then too. And they both really need a quiet place to study.

    I'm not planning to show them anything like Reservoir Dogs for quite a while. They'll be living with me for at least the next two years. Longer probably, since their Mum stil probably won't be able to afford a place big enough for them all and they'll both need somewhere to stay in Uni holidays.

    I really appreciate the concern. I'm not a parent myself so this is all new to me!
  • SunnySunshineSunnySunshine Posts: 5,399
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    I was just pointing it out, not critizing (I'm not 18 yet, but I've seen a few 18s - Bruno, Inglorious Basterds, episodes of The Inbetweeners and Breaking Bad S1). I think adults are more shocked by the content of films than teenagers, especially strong language, sex and drugs (Fun fact - The BBFC has never recieved a complaint from a terrified child about Jaws, but has recieved several from adults who believe it is too scary for children)..

    Also, I'd start off with more recent films and work backwards, so as not to throw them in at the deep end. I'd maybe start with Slumdog Millionaire, Minority Report, 127 Hours and then move on to The Italian Job and some of the bond films (not all of them just the good ones like Casino Royale, Goldfinger, etc.) before going deeper

    Would a child know who to complain to? Let alone how to complain to them? ;)

    I take your point about the more recent releases being more accessible to them.
  • spiney2spiney2 Posts: 27,058
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    ....... seems there's now a 4 year film watching list and the poor lasses WILL NOT BE ALLOWED OUT and have to bring any stray boys back ...... which you'd probably want anyway ......
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
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    Kids are not interested in films the same way I used to be.

    It's been a constant source of distress for me.
  • SunnySunshineSunnySunshine Posts: 5,399
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    spiney2 wrote: »
    ....... seems there's now a 4 year film watching list and the poor lasses WILL NOT BE ALLOWED OUT and have to bring any stray boys back ...... which you'd probably want anyway ......

    Four years is about the plan for the younger one. ;)

    I reckon I'm about 50 films short if we have a weekly film night. :D

    You're right about the boys though - we'll have none of that under my roof!
  • SunnySunshineSunnySunshine Posts: 5,399
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    Kal_El wrote: »
    Kids are not interested in films the same way I used to be.

    It's been a constant source of distress for me.
    I know what you mean. ;)
  • JCRJCR Posts: 24,064
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    I certainly wouldn't show The Exorcist or Heavenly Creatures to teenage girls unless you were sure they could handle them.
  • SunnySunshineSunnySunshine Posts: 5,399
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    JCR wrote: »
    I certainly wouldn't show The Exorcist or Heavenly Creatures to teenage girls unless you were sure they could handle them.

    I'm planning to work up to the more disturbing titles over the next couple of years or three, and I plan to rewards with my substitute parent head on before I show the films to the girls.

    There are many films that I wouldn't show to them under any circumstances of course.
  • SunnySunshineSunnySunshine Posts: 5,399
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    I was just pointing it out, not critizing (I'm not 18 yet, but I've seen a few 18s - Bruno, Inglorious Basterds, episodes of The Inbetweeners and Breaking Bad S1). I think adults are more shocked by the content of films than teenagers, especially strong language, sex and drugs (Fun fact - The BBFC has never recieved a complaint from a terrified child about Jaws, but has recieved several from adults who believe it is too scary for children)..



    Also, I'd start off with more recent films and work backwards, so as not to throw them in at the deep end. I'd maybe start with Slumdog Millionaire, Minority Report, 127 Hours and then move on to The Italian Job and some of the bond films (not all of them just the good ones like Casino Royale, Goldfinger, etc.) before going deeper
    I forgot to say.... I hadn't even considered James Bond films, but of course they are very culturally significant, and Inglourious Basterds goes on the list for a later date.
  • nw0307nw0307 Posts: 10,917
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    I think the kids who are wrapped in cotton wool and go through life with a sense of entitlement should be made to sit in front of 'Cathy Come Home' by Ken Loach. (not saying the ones you have are though!)

    There are so many people out there that think we've all walked around in diamond encrusted shoes for decades and I think it would shock them that this only happened in our grandparents time.

    However I guess it's more of a social history than a cultural education

    :p
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    The great escape
    The mission
    Cemetery junction
    Snow cake
    The good, the bad the ugly
    March of the penguins
  • SunnySunshineSunnySunshine Posts: 5,399
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    nw0307 wrote: »
    I think the kids who are wrapped in cotton wool and go through life with a sense of entitlement should be made to sit in front of 'Cathy Come Home' by Ken Loach. (not saying the ones you have are though!)

    There are so many people out there that think we've all walked around in diamond encrusted shoes for decades and I think it would shock them that this only happened in our grandparents time.

    However I guess it's more of a social history than a cultural education

    :p

    Definitely. They recently refused to accept that Call The Midwife was a fairly realistic depiction of life not that long ago.

    The eldest is reading Caitlin Moran's How To Be A Woman writing about being a teenager in the 1980s and she keeps asking me for verification that the things she's readinf about were real!
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