Yes. I'd love us to be in the 'Star Trek' era, where all religion is regarded as a myth.
No it isn't. Some people see it as myth, others are religious and their customers are still observed and respected. In the episode Data's Day, it is stated that there will be a celebration of the Hindu Festival of Light taking place on the ship that day. Get your facts right man. >:(
I vaguely remember the answer to be that a few pages on in the book, mankind did something to really hack God off, so He limited us to our "three score years plus ten".
yes indeed. this is the correct answer, according to the paradigm. the fall. he (god that is) created adam and eve with the potential to live forever, but they were naughty so he made things a bit more difficult for them and their descendants. i think, stuff like making it hard to grow crops so they got worn out and malnourished, air purity diminished, pollutants appeared etc. it took a few generations for it to show but lifespans in the bible gradually get shorter and shorter from the fall. Not quickly enough though, which is also why he had to send the flood. the perils of being immortal is you can misjudge things. after which it was just down hill
Surely there is no need to squabble over Noah's Age. I would assume most religious people regard the Bible's statement on his age as as fanciful as non-believers do.
well i am an atheist but i do like to be informed about what i don't believe in.
No it isn't. Some people see it as myth, others are religious and their customers are still observed and respected. In the episode Data's Day, it is stated that there will be a celebration of the Hindu Festival of Light taking place on the ship that day. Get your facts right man. >:(
Usual response. Attack the question rather than answer it. I know the bible is fiction, I'm wondering what those who think its true have to say.
So why not post on a believers board, or go down to your local fundamentalist church and ask there?
I can't think of any literalists posting here.
NB - sorry to see you are still obsessed.
No it isn't. Some people see it as myth, others are religious and their customers are still observed and respected. In the episode Data's Day, it is stated that there will be a celebration of the Hindu Festival of Light taking place on the ship that day. Get your facts right man. >:(
In the Wrath of Khan Bones says that in Earth mythology it was created in 7 days.
Certainly was PC compared to DS9, which had plenty religion (mostly Bajoran, but also signs that some humans are still religious). Of course, other races were also very religious but it didn't seem to stop them from going out into space either.
Even in the original series there were several occasions which pointed to human religion still being alive and well...despite Roddenberry being fiercely atheist.
So why not post on a believers board, or go down to your local fundamentalist church and ask there?
I can't think of any literalists posting here.
NB - sorry to see you are still obsessed.
i don't see why its a problem. as far as i can tell, most people on this forum think things were better in the 'olden days' if the number of threads about how great it was to drive around without a seatbelt and have baths in a coal scuttle (whatever one of those is) in the 70s are anything to go by. its just an extreme version of that.
yes indeed. this is the correct answer, according to the paradigm. the fall. he (god that is) created adam and eve with the potential to live forever, but they were naughty so he made things a bit more difficult for them and their descendants. i think, stuff like making it hard to grow crops so they got worn out and malnourished, air purity diminished, pollutants appeared etc. it took a few generations for it to show but lifespans in the bible gradually get shorter and shorter from the fall. Not quickly enough though, which is also why he had to send the flood. the perils of being immortal is you can misjudge things. after which it was just down hill
well i am an atheist but i do like to be informed about what i don't believe in.
So basically then it was the loving God who decided to bestow so much hardship upon the human race for his own enjoyment.
So basically then it was the loving God who decided to bestow so much hardship upon the human race for his own enjoyment.
i don't think he was very loving in the creation/ old testament days. lots of plagues and incest as i recall. he only went soft after gentle jesus meek and mild reconstituted religion and was appropriated for the new age version for, er, more enlightened times.
i don't think he was very loving in the creation/ old testament days. lots of plagues and incest as i recall. he only went soft after gentle jesus meek and mild reconstituted religion and was appropriated for the new age version for, er, more enlightened times.
Ah yes those enlightened times when miracles actually did happen but for some strange reason cant/dont happen now.
Ah yes those enlightened times when miracles actually did happen but for some strange reason cant/dont happen now.
Such as living to be 950.
Ahh religion. Changing the story to suit the times. Like the bible. Was 100% true until science came along, now it's getting increasingly just allegory.
Changing the story to suit the times. Like the bible. Was 100% true until science came along,
sin.
not science.
100% true til sin came along and god decided to make things a bit more difficult.
science also made things more difficult though, now that you mention it, because life expectancy, average height, nutritional quality etc all went down after the industrial revolution, the first time that things went backward. well, since the fall anyway.
Ahh religion. Changing the story to suit the times. Like the bible. Was 100% true until science came along, now it's getting increasingly just allegory.
Bah that pesky science its just made up nonsense anyway.
old testament is fab for a good disaster story and quite a few extremely punitive morality tales. not forgetting the monsters of course. they are quite good.
100% true til sin came along and god decided to make things a bit more difficult.
science also made things more difficult though, now that you mention it, because life expectancy, average height, nutritional quality etc all went down after the industrial revolution, the first time that things went backward. well, since the fall anyway.
what fall? THE fall. you know, the one involving the snake, the apple and the previously- intended- to- be- immortals. the subject of this discussion. you started it i believe...
as for the rest of it, i can't give you history lessons as well as religious instruction.
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No it isn't. Some people see it as myth, others are religious and their customers are still observed and respected. In the episode Data's Day, it is stated that there will be a celebration of the Hindu Festival of Light taking place on the ship that day. Get your facts right man. >:(
yes indeed. this is the correct answer, according to the paradigm. the fall. he (god that is) created adam and eve with the potential to live forever, but they were naughty so he made things a bit more difficult for them and their descendants. i think, stuff like making it hard to grow crops so they got worn out and malnourished, air purity diminished, pollutants appeared etc. it took a few generations for it to show but lifespans in the bible gradually get shorter and shorter from the fall. Not quickly enough though, which is also why he had to send the flood. the perils of being immortal is you can misjudge things. after which it was just down hill
well i am an atheist but i do like to be informed about what i don't believe in.
The Next Generation! Just a PC sell out.
Also, don't forget that unicorns were still around. Maybe they were, like, really short-lived and people used unicorn years to measure Noah's age.
The OP is failing to think outside the box here.
So why not post on a believers board, or go down to your local fundamentalist church and ask there?
I can't think of any literalists posting here.
NB - sorry to see you are still obsessed.
You can certainly measure some of these religion-bashing threads in donkeys' years - some of them seem interminable.:D
My unicorn is alive and kicking thank you! >:(
In the Wrath of Khan Bones says that in Earth mythology it was created in 7 days.
Certainly was PC compared to DS9, which had plenty religion (mostly Bajoran, but also signs that some humans are still religious). Of course, other races were also very religious but it didn't seem to stop them from going out into space either.
Even in the original series there were several occasions which pointed to human religion still being alive and well...despite Roddenberry being fiercely atheist.
Picard's take on religion
i don't see why its a problem. as far as i can tell, most people on this forum think things were better in the 'olden days' if the number of threads about how great it was to drive around without a seatbelt and have baths in a coal scuttle (whatever one of those is) in the 70s are anything to go by. its just an extreme version of that.
So basically then it was the loving God who decided to bestow so much hardship upon the human race for his own enjoyment.
i don't think he was very loving in the creation/ old testament days. lots of plagues and incest as i recall. he only went soft after gentle jesus meek and mild reconstituted religion and was appropriated for the new age version for, er, more enlightened times.
Which is why I specifically wrote that some people treat it as myth and others don't.
Ah yes those enlightened times when miracles actually did happen but for some strange reason cant/dont happen now.
Such as living to be 950.
you're not paying attention... >:(
living to 950 was old testament, not new. it was also not a miracle. it was routine. because things were better in the olden days.
Ahh religion. Changing the story to suit the times. Like the bible. Was 100% true until science came along, now it's getting increasingly just allegory.
sin.
not science.
100% true til sin came along and god decided to make things a bit more difficult.
science also made things more difficult though, now that you mention it, because life expectancy, average height, nutritional quality etc all went down after the industrial revolution, the first time that things went backward. well, since the fall anyway.
Bah that pesky science its just made up nonsense anyway.
old testament is fab for a good disaster story and quite a few extremely punitive morality tales. not forgetting the monsters of course. they are quite good.
Backward? In what way? And what fall?
Yes he was 950 years old. New what?
what fall? THE fall. you know, the one involving the snake, the apple and the previously- intended- to- be- immortals. the subject of this discussion. you started it i believe...
as for the rest of it, i can't give you history lessons as well as religious instruction.