Are you honestly trying to tell us you have never discussed a post match game, I find that incredibly hard to believe.
This entire football forum would cease to exist if we all moved on after the final whistle blew.
Of course not, but this whole red card thing has been discussed ad nauseum from the moment it happened.
Why we need a poll when we cannot actually re-run the match is beyond me?
Of course it was - 2 footed tackle = red card. Players have had this drummed into them for ten years now yet some still do it and are still defended. If you want to disagree with the rule then fine but Foy would have been hauled in front of his superiors had he not produced a red, it was Kompany's own stupid fault that he got sent off and nobody else's.
the fa seem to have made there feeling clear with what they deem a red card when they didnt overturn the millias red. that wasnt even a foul in my view and kompany's tackle was much worse and more dangerous than that.
By law it seems so but harsh to the untrained eye.
One hopes if Mr Rooney gets sent off for such a foul he won't be complaining having helped the Man City guy get sent off.
really? mancini went down this ridiculous route too, sometimes you will see players really get in a refs face to get a player carded or to claim a foul, rooneys seemed a mild appeal at best, with no waving of a card its hard to know if its for just a fk or a card.
Having watched the video back it's not actually a two footed tackle.
The other point I would make - it could be argued it wasnt even a tackle - more of an interception ie the ball was cleared from man u defence and he was always going to get there before nani - albeit fractionally but that's why it can't be considered dangerous.
'Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play.'
Kompany did not display any signs of excessive force or endangering the safety of an opponent. I'm sure if it was dangerous Nani would have reacted in a totally different way.
'Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play.'
Kompany did not display any signs of excessive force or endangering the safety of an opponent. I'm sure if it was dangerous Nani would have reacted in a totally different way.
So FIFA's own definition of a two footed tackle is one "using one or both legs".
Surely, if only one leg is used it cannot, by definition , be two footed?
By the letter of the law the tackle was a sending off, depending on how the referee saw it. The referee saw it as possibly dangerous, so he was off. It was possibly dangerous. It didn't end up being dangerous, but it easily could have been, which is why he was off.
Kompany is an idiot as is any player jumping in with 2 feet. Foy is a crap ref but all he sees is Belgiums entry for. The 2012 long jump and for once I dont think he had a choice.
Why do you think it wasn't a red card? That type of tackle has been a red card for years.
well your opinion and mine along with many others on this forum and others are very different.
although it doesnt affect the outcome whatsoever chris foy will always be a complete moron in my opinon and maybe a trip to specsavers is overdue for him.
'Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play.'
Kompany did not display any signs of excessive force or endangering the safety of an opponent. I'm sure if it was dangerous Nani would have reacted in a totally different way.
Completely agree. This "two footed tackle = red card" thing is a common misconception. That's not the rule. Kompany's tackle did involve two legs, yes, but he barely left the ground and seemed to be in complete control and won the ball. It was a brilliant tackle. I think it deserved a yellow for being two-footed, but not a red under the rules of the game as it didn't seem reckless/malicious/excessively forceful.
It wasn't dangerous, Kompany looked like he was in control,
The guy is off both his feet in the air, he is huge, moving towards the player with no part of him touching the ground, and his studs facing upwards. how in any way shape or form can you call that "looked like he was in control"?
It wasn't dangerous, Kompany looked like he was in control, it wasn't the usual textbook two footed lunge into opponents ankle. The weight of the tackle appeared fairly light and evenly distributed.
The guy is off both his feet in the air, he is huge, moving towards the player with no part of him touching the ground, and his studs facing upwards. how in any way shape or form can you call that "looked like he was in control"?
His feet were no more in the air than a sliding tackle. You can be in the air and in control if you are slow.
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Of course not, but this whole red card thing has been discussed ad nauseum from the moment it happened.
Why we need a poll when we cannot actually re-run the match is beyond me?
One hopes if Mr Rooney gets sent off for such a foul he won't be complaining having helped the Man City guy get sent off.
Foy had already made his decision. It was a two-footed tackle.
So the "trained eye" deemed it dangerous, which it was.
really? mancini went down this ridiculous route too, sometimes you will see players really get in a refs face to get a player carded or to claim a foul, rooneys seemed a mild appeal at best, with no waving of a card its hard to know if its for just a fk or a card.
this. couldn't have said it better myself
You say it as if you've never made a pointless thread.
The poll wasn't created to serve a meaning for you.
The other point I would make - it could be argued it wasnt even a tackle - more of an interception ie the ball was cleared from man u defence and he was always going to get there before nani - albeit fractionally but that's why it can't be considered dangerous.
'Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play.'
Kompany did not display any signs of excessive force or endangering the safety of an opponent. I'm sure if it was dangerous Nani would have reacted in a totally different way.
So FIFA's own definition of a two footed tackle is one "using one or both legs".
Surely, if only one leg is used it cannot, by definition , be two footed?
well your opinion and mine along with many others on this forum and others are very different.
although it doesnt affect the outcome whatsoever chris foy will always be a complete moron in my opinon and maybe a trip to specsavers is overdue for him.
Completely agree. This "two footed tackle = red card" thing is a common misconception. That's not the rule. Kompany's tackle did involve two legs, yes, but he barely left the ground and seemed to be in complete control and won the ball. It was a brilliant tackle. I think it deserved a yellow for being two-footed, but not a red under the rules of the game as it didn't seem reckless/malicious/excessively forceful.
The guy is off both his feet in the air, he is huge, moving towards the player with no part of him touching the ground, and his studs facing upwards. how in any way shape or form can you call that "looked like he was in control"?
We all moan about referees being inconsistent. Two footed lunges like that are one of the few things they consistently give a red for.
If it's two footed it's red. Those are the rules.
His feet were no more in the air than a sliding tackle. You can be in the air and in control if you are slow.