Children don't make you happier?

sands11sands11 Posts: 700
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I have been thinking about this a lot lately. Its probably something no one wants to admit, I love my children but am glad they are almost grown up now.

The last 18 years has not been easy. I dont know if I have been happier or not but wouldnt be without them.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1298478/Do-children-really-make-happier-We-investigated-intriguing-home-truths-.html
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 12,881
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    I don't have kids (not through choice) but I am very involved in the lives of my nieces and nephews. I can see the pros and cons of both situations. For one thing, my OH and I can go out on a whim without having to plan ahead like a military operation or pay for baby sitters.

    A lot of friends with kids say they envy the freedom with have, but I also envy them their children.

    Would I have been happier with children? I really don't know. I think in life you just make the best of what you have. And I can honestly say that what I have makes me happy.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 12,613
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    I have to admit that I got very frustrated bringing up my children 24/7. They weren't bad kids at all or demanding but I was just a stay at home mother (which I loved at the time) for all those years and forgot to feel like a person in my own right. So I totally understand what the OP was saying although I don't regret it.

    However, by having children you sometimes get grandchildren and that is a massive blessing. I absolutely adore my grandchildren and I get to see them everyday and babysit them. I could not be happier when in their company. My relationship with my children is great to.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 25,310
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    What a pointless article.

    Assuming that both situations were the result of positive choice, how can you know if you would be happier without kids if you have them or with kids if you don't? You can only guess.

    And to state that we self select the happy times with our kids so our memories are always happy ones and therefore not accurate - well dont we do that for every aspect of our lives? It is part of the human condition.

    As I said, a totally pointless article that says nothing in several hundred words.
  • diddygirldiddygirl Posts: 4,875
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    Right, best get the buggers on Ebay pronto.....can't possible be happy till I do!!!
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 12,881
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    diddygirl wrote: »
    Right, best get the buggers on Ebay pronto.....can't possible be happy till I do!!!

    Imagine the postage! :eek:
  • diddygirldiddygirl Posts: 4,875
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    Imagine the postage! :eek:

    Obviously I will do a deal on postage if you want both.
  • d0lphind0lphin Posts: 25,352
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    Sounds like a load of rubbish to me. My children have pretty much always made me happy (obviously some exceptions like sheer exhaustion when they were babies!)

    They have enriched my life and I would not have done half of the things I have done in my life if I hadn't been doing them to gibve my children as many different life expereinces as possible.

    Having said that it's nice when they grow up too, seeing the grown men they are turning into.

    Our older son has left home but we live for the times when we're all together such as we're having a family holiday to Portugal in a couple of weeks time:)
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 12,881
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    diddygirl wrote: »
    Obviously I will do a deal on postage if you want both.

    How do I say no politely? Anyway, the post round here is so rubbish they would never arrive! :D
  • diddygirldiddygirl Posts: 4,875
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    How do I say no politely? Anyway, the post round here is so rubbish they would never arrive! :D
    :D

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  • StudmuffinStudmuffin Posts: 4,377
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    diddygirl wrote: »
    Right, best get the buggers on Ebay pronto.....can't possible be happy till I do!!!

    OMG you can't sell kids on eBay :eek:

    You could try Craigslist though :D
  • darkmothdarkmoth Posts: 12,265
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    I don't know if children make you happier, my parents wouldn't have had it any other way. And I'd like the opportunity to find out
  • technology_lovetechnology_love Posts: 3,177
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    I have an 11 month old son, our first.
    Love the little guy to bits and cant wait to see him grow more.

    But our freedom has gone out the door - dinner out? Need a babysitter.
    Few pints at the pub? Bring him along with buggy, nappies and toys.
    I'm up every morning at 5:30am to entertain as he has had enough sleep.

    Anyone thinking of having kids....make sure you do the things you wanted to do first - ie travel, parties every weekend,etc.

    But I wouldn't change it for anything as a smile from him melts my heart.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 10,529
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    vidalia wrote: »
    What a pointless article.

    Assuming that both situations were the result of positive choice, how can you know if you would be happier without kids if you have them or with kids if you don't? You can only guess.

    And to state that we self select the happy times with our kids so our memories are always happy ones and therefore not accurate - well dont we do that for every aspect of our lives? It is part of the human condition.

    As I said, a totally pointless article that says nothing in several hundred words.

    100% agree with this.

    I imagine people who choose not to have children are far happier about their situation in life than those people who desperately wanted children but have not been able to do so.

    Likewise parents who actively chose to have their children - who's to say they would have had happier lives without their kids?

    Totally pointless article!
  • Awshum-YawnAwshum-Yawn Posts: 1,718
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    I think there's more to it than that article makes out and so gets it wrong.

    If you're an unhappy individual and have kids to fill a void in your life then you're headed for disaster. You'll be setting yourselves up, for severe dissappointment or rather, incredibly high hopes that the children will never achieve for you no matter how successful they are.

    If you are a contented individual who decides to start a family because it's the next step then you're headed for a happy time.

    If you have an unplanned pregnancy and refuse to accept the consequences then you're headed for resenting the kids and having a miserable parenthood. The kids will grow up to hate you as they will feel the resentment.

    If you have an unplanned pregnancy and accept your new role as a parent then you're headed for a successful outcome.
  • M30M30 Posts: 936
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    To anyone who wails "being a Mum is the hardest job in the world" then I have one message for you:

    You should have closed your legs.

    No-one asked you to have children, no-one made you do it.
  • CFCJM1CFCJM1 Posts: 2,065
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    Agree stupid article as everyone's case is different. If I'd been having IVF for ten years and then had a child of course I would be happier as it would be a dream come true but if I was a 16 year old girl who had wanted to go to uni or travel there is a big chance I wouldnt be so happy about it.

    Personally I am glad I wanted until being early 30s to have mine as I never felt I had missed out on anything and had a good few years of freedom and fun. Again only my opinion and doesnt apply to everyone.
  • gasheadgashead Posts: 13,816
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    It's missing the point to bash the article. Anyone who actually reads it will recognise it's not being presented as 'news'; it's just one woman's viewpoint of motherhood, which she was presumably inspired to write because of research that's just come out from one sociology Professor from, as if we couldn't have guessed, America. If anything, criticise the research, not someone who just happens to discuss it and ask 'is this true do you think?'.

    FWIW, I think the research is bollocks. Who has ever claimed the reason they had children was to be 'happy'? No-one, because having kids doesn't, in itself, make people happy, but then no-one goes on holiday, or strives for more disposable income, to be happy either. We do all these things - kids, holidays, money - in order to give us the freedom to have experiences that we hope will give us more pleasure than misery. Have I done many of things I thought I'd like to have done by now? No. Am I happy having had kids instead? Absolutely. The experiences have been different, but no less fulfilling.
  • diddygirldiddygirl Posts: 4,875
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    Studmuffin wrote: »
    OMG you can't sell kids on eBay :eek:

    You could try Craigslist though :D

    To be fair I was thinking of asking Madonna to see if she wants a ginger one. I mean she has a couple of black kids, a latino one, a white one, surely ginger is her next move?
  • Awshum-YawnAwshum-Yawn Posts: 1,718
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    diddygirl wrote: »
    To be fair I was thinking of asking Madonna to see if she wants a ginger one. I mean she has a couple of black kids, a latino one, a white one, surely ginger is her next move?

    nobody wants a ginger.
  • diddygirldiddygirl Posts: 4,875
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    nobody wants a ginger.

    Tell me about it, I have 2, not one bid on Ebay yet!!!
  • SadeyedSadeyed Posts: 1,265
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    As children grow they go from being physically demanding to emotionally demanding.

    In the early days it's feeding, watering, changing and dressing eventually arriving at exams, driving tests, girlfriends and career choices.

    I can honestly say that the only downside for me has been dealing with my son being hurt or upset. Those times ripped through me like a knife. Other than that he has enriched my life in every way and I can't imagine not having experienced that special love I have for him.

    He's in his thirties now and I can honestly say he is the best thing that ever happened to me and I would happily go back and do it all again.

    Having said all that there are still days when I could hit him over the head with a frying pan! :)
  • oldhagoldhag Posts: 2,539
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    Surely people don't have kids to make themselves happier?

    I thought it was our animal instinct to reproduce.

    Kids are foul, noisy, selfish, expensive, demanding little gits. We only love our own and have to pay others to look after them.

    If they were the delight you say - folk would be queuing up and paying to baby sit.

    Stop kidding yourselves.
  • skunkboy69skunkboy69 Posts: 9,506
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    They made me happier.They gave me a purpose and made me realise not everything was about me.They made me an adult.
  • academiaacademia Posts: 18,225
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    skunkboy69 wrote: »
    They made me happier.They gave me a purpose and made me realise not everything was about me.They made me an adult.

    Well said. That is exactly what children do for people.
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    mrsh1807 wrote: »
    100% agree with this.

    I imagine people who choose not to have children are far happier about their situation in life than those people who desperately wanted children but have not been able to do so.

    Likewise parents who actively chose to have their children - who's to say they would have had happier lives without their kids?

    Totally pointless article!

    I agreee with this too. Kids are damned bloody hard work and mine frustrate the hell out of me at times. They also bring me more joy and happiness than any other person has. My life was great before I had kids, and it is pretty great now that I have them. I do not miss my life before I had children. Yep, it's great not to plan a military operation before you go out, but then it's nice to have 2 little excuses to use when you don't want to do something and you want to chill in the house and watch Phineas and Ferb.
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