UK electricity prices set to explode as new tax is imposed

[Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 4,845
Forum Member
✭✭✭
UK electricity prices almost twice as expensive as Germany within three years
6:35PM BST 19 Jun 2013

Electricity prices in Britain may be almost double those in Germany within three years due largely to the impact of a new tax aimed at supporting renewable power generation, a report by bank Credit Suisse has claimed. The bank blamed the roughly fivefold rise in the government's new tax on carbon-dioxide emitting power generation over the next seven years, while also pointing to Britain's lack of infrastructure to import power from the European mainland.

The Credit-Suisse figures show that in the winter of 2016/17 UK power prices will trade at an 85pc premium to German equivalents, compared with a 25pc divergence currently.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/10130970/UK-electricity-prices-almost-twice-as-expensive-as-Germany-within-three-years.html

Yet another TAX.
UK's oil production bbl/day : 1,099,000
Germany's oil production bbl/day : 156,800

The UK produces 7 times as much oil as Germany and we pay twice as much. Good luck to those facing higher energy bills in the years to come.
«1

Comments

  • LiamforkingLiamforking Posts: 1,641
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    UK electricity prices almost twice as expensive as Germany within three years
    6:35PM BST 19 Jun 2013

    Electricity prices in Britain may be almost double those in Germany within three years due largely to the impact of a new tax aimed at supporting renewable power generation, a report by bank Credit Suisse has claimed. The bank blamed the roughly fivefold rise in the government's new tax on carbon-dioxide emitting power generation over the next seven years, while also pointing to Britain's lack of infrastructure to import power from the European mainland.

    The Credit-Suisse figures show that in the winter of 2016/17 UK power prices will trade at an 85pc premium to German equivalents, compared with a 25pc divergence currently.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/10130970/UK-electricity-prices-almost-twice-as-expensive-as-Germany-within-three-years.html

    Yet another TAX.
    UK's oil production bbl/day : 1,099,000
    Germany's oil production bbl/day : 156,800

    The UK produces 7 times as much oil as Germany and we pay twice as much. Good luck to those facing higher energy bills in the years to come.

    Have no fear, the Con/Lab/Lib capitalist cabal will protect us little people from this heist. No way would they leave poor elderly vulnerable people to live in fuel poverty while their friends who own these companies line their pockets with profit.
    It just won't happen.
  • Ethel_FredEthel_Fred Posts: 34,127
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    Germany is investing massively into renewables and produces more of it than the UK - so what are they doing that we aren't?
  • LyricalisLyricalis Posts: 57,958
    Forum Member
    Ethel_Fred wrote: »
    Germany is investing massively into renewables and produces more of it than the UK - so what are they doing that we aren't?

    Our government only gives money to banks.
  • Rastus PiefaceRastus Pieface Posts: 4,382
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    Ethel_Fred wrote: »
    Germany is investing massively into renewables and produces more of it than the UK - so what are they doing that we aren't?

    germany are thinking long term. we tend to think only up to the next election.
  • clinchclinch Posts: 11,574
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    Ethel_Fred wrote: »
    Germany is investing massively into renewables and produces more of it than the UK - so what are they doing that we aren't?

    Building new coal fired power stations

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-27/germany-to-add-most-coal-fired-plants-in-two-decades-iwr-says.html
  • Phil 2804Phil 2804 Posts: 21,846
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    UK electricity prices almost twice as expensive as Germany within three years
    6:35PM BST 19 Jun 2013

    Electricity prices in Britain may be almost double those in Germany within three years due largely to the impact of a new tax aimed at supporting renewable power generation, a report by bank Credit Suisse has claimed. The bank blamed the roughly fivefold rise in the government's new tax on carbon-dioxide emitting power generation over the next seven years, while also pointing to Britain's lack of infrastructure to import power from the European mainland.

    The Credit-Suisse figures show that in the winter of 2016/17 UK power prices will trade at an 85pc premium to German equivalents, compared with a 25pc divergence currently.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/10130970/UK-electricity-prices-almost-twice-as-expensive-as-Germany-within-three-years.html

    Yet another TAX.
    UK's oil production bbl/day : 1,099,000
    Germany's oil production bbl/day : 156,800

    The UK produces 7 times as much oil as Germany and we pay twice as much. Good luck to those facing higher energy bills in the years to come.

    Burning oil for electricity is a criminal waste of a valuable resource. The answer is a combination of nuclear and renewables. Too bad we have such cowardly politicians in London.
  • Nessun DormaNessun Dorma Posts: 12,846
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    Can anyone actually quantify this tax?
  • ShaunIOWShaunIOW Posts: 11,320
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    Ethel_Fred wrote: »
    Germany is investing massively into renewables and produces more of it than the UK - so what are they doing that we aren't?

    Aren't German power companies state owned so any profits are reinvested unlike here where profits go abroad and are paid in director bonuses and share dividends?
  • mackaramackara Posts: 4,063
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    My electricity costs will rise by 20% in July, this is on top of a 20% hike in Oct 2011 which is before any new taxes are added on.
    http://www.prlog.org/12144466-stormont-says-no-powerni-18-electricity-price-hike-in-northern-ireland-electricity-saver-irelan.html
  • mackaramackara Posts: 4,063
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    Ethel_Fred wrote: »
    Germany is investing massively into renewables and produces more of it than the UK - so what are they doing that we aren't?

    They are not paying their renewable energy companies money NOT to generate electricity.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-13253876
  • SpotSpot Posts: 25,121
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    Retail prices for electrcity in Germany are presently much higher than they are here, laregly due to taxes imposed by the German government.
  • SpotSpot Posts: 25,121
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    Phil 2804 wrote: »
    Burning oil for electricity is a criminal waste of a valuable resource. The answer is a combination of nuclear and renewables. Too bad we have such cowardly politicians in London.

    There have been several times over the past week - in the middle of a warm spell when demand is obviously lower than it would be for much of the year - when I have looked at this page and seen wind contributing as little as one to two per cent of generation. At the time of posting the figure is 3.3%. (scroll down to table headed 'Generation by fuel type'.)

    That is depsite the massive amount which has already been invested in wind, all of which is being added to bills. It has a contribution to make, but it would be foolish to think it can ever replace other forms of generation.

    Edit - highlighted link doesn't seem to work. Try this http://www.bmreports.com/bsp/
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,027
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    UK electricity prices almost twice as expensive as Germany within three years
    6:35PM BST 19 Jun 2013

    Electricity prices in Britain may be almost double those in Germany within three years due largely to the impact of a new tax aimed at supporting renewable power generation, a report by bank Credit Suisse has claimed. The bank blamed the roughly fivefold rise in the government's new tax on carbon-dioxide emitting power generation over the next seven years, while also pointing to Britain's lack of infrastructure to import power from the European mainland.

    The Credit-Suisse figures show that in the winter of 2016/17 UK power prices will trade at an 85pc premium to German equivalents, compared with a 25pc divergence currently.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/10130970/UK-electricity-prices-almost-twice-as-expensive-as-Germany-within-three-years.html

    Yet another TAX.
    UK's oil production bbl/day : 1,099,000
    Germany's oil production bbl/day : 156,800

    The UK produces 7 times as much oil as Germany and we pay twice as much. Good luck to those facing higher energy bills in the years to come.
    Never Mind.... I am sure that Ed Davey will join Chris Huhne after the next election on the Board of an International Energy Conglomerate.
  • warlordwarlord Posts: 3,292
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭

    Energy insiders have long known that the notion of ‘renewable energy’ is a romantic proposition – and an economic bust. But it is amazing what the lure of guaranteed ‘few strings attached’ government subsidies can achieve. Even the Big Oil companies bought into the renewables revolution, albeit mostly for PR reasons. Like Shell, however, many quickly abandoned their fledgling renewable arms. Post-2008, they knew, the subsidy regimes could not last. Neither was the public buying into the new PR message.

    Now it was just a question of time before Europe’s world leading pioneers of solar and wind power, Germany and the UK, decided they had had enough of the self-inflicted economic pain. And all the signs are – as Germany’s solar sector just went belly up and the UK is made aware of how much every wind job actually costs – that the slow implosion of the renewables revolution is under way.

    http://www.thecommentator.com/article/3827/the_great_renewables_scam_unravels
  • doom&gloomdoom&gloom Posts: 9,051
    Forum Member
    ShaunIOW wrote: »
    Aren't German power companies state owned so any profits are reinvested unlike here where profits go abroad and are paid in director bonuses and share dividends?

    No, E.ON and RWE are big companies who own E.ON UK and npower over her as well.
  • Nessun DormaNessun Dorma Posts: 12,846
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    DariaM wrote: »
    Never Mind.... I am sure that Ed Davey will join Chris Huhne after the next election on the Board of an International Energy Conglomerate.

    I thought he already was.
  • warlordwarlord Posts: 3,292
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
  • bob_evansbob_evans Posts: 603
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    warlord wrote: »


    We only just escaped blackout last year. If we had one of our cvonventional power station go down we would be in trouble. REmember most of these are now old and have had no investment and are having to work to their limits
  • tim59tim59 Posts: 47,188
    Forum Member
    bob_evans wrote: »
    We only just escaped blackout last year. If we had one of our cvonventional power station go down we would be in trouble. REmember most of these are now old and have had no investment and are having to work to their limits

    When company profits, and keeping shareholders happy are the most important things, this will always happen.
  • warlordwarlord Posts: 3,292
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    tim59 wrote: »
    When company profits, and keeping shareholders happy are the most important things, this will always happen.

    Government policy has choked off the construction of new power stations.
  • BrokenArrowBrokenArrow Posts: 21,665
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    tim59 wrote: »
    When company profits, and keeping shareholders happy are the most important things, this will always happen.

    Nothing to do with profits.

    Like most dumb things today, its all the EU's fault.

    http://pressreleases.eon-uk.com/blogs/eonukpressreleases/archive/2012/12/17/1903.aspx
  • tim59tim59 Posts: 47,188
    Forum Member
    Nothing to do with profits.

    Like most dumb things today, its all the EU's fault.

    http://pressreleases.eon-uk.com/blogs/eonukpressreleases/archive/2012/12/17/1903.aspx

    So the policy is not just for the uk, bet other countrys are dealing with the problem ok
  • BrokenArrowBrokenArrow Posts: 21,665
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    tim59 wrote: »
    So the policy is not just for the uk, bet other countrys are dealing with the problem ok

    France is 80% nuclear and has been for some decades.
  • tim59tim59 Posts: 47,188
    Forum Member
    France is 80% nuclear and has been for some decades.

    So we have sat back and done nothing again, we spend more time sorting out paper work than it takes to build anything. We have known all this for years that we needed more, not just been dropped on us overnight
Sign In or Register to comment.