Amazing Spiderman #700
Jon McManamy
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What did people think? I'm going to give the first couple of issues of Superior Spiderman a go see how it goes but i'm not expecting to like it much. Think it's been a bit of a shit storyline tbh if they were gonna kill peter off i think they should have introduced Miles Morales of the 616 universe
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It's certainly raised my curiosity level enough to maybe give it a go, but I also don't think i'm going to like it all that much. I think i'm too much of a traditionalist in that sense.
I have to admit it's been quite cleverly done but still
PP will be back, somehow... My money is on his spirit being stronger than Oc's and eventually defeating him in his old body. Or Mephisto gets involved again.
Blatantly obvious, though. Unless folks just think PP has taken to calling MJ "woman" because it's cool or some other such nonsense...
Didn't the TV show heroes do something like it with Sylar and Nathan doing a mind swap thingy? can't remember? maybe that is the route it's going.
I've put my full review up here for those that are interested: http://theweekendwednesday.com/2012/12/29/review-amazing-spider-man-700/
Only someone who has a very limited experience of American super-hero comics would ever think this was in any way a permanent thing.
I give it 8 months, at the outside.
I'm prepared to see how the Superior Spider-Man works out but on a purely sentimental level it seems like a tragedy that such a long run should be curtailed in what is little more than a marketing stunt. They've re-launched the movie franchise to largely positive reviews (I loved it, personally) so there's just no way I can see that this will last for long. Outside of the comics everything Spider-Man is strongly associated with Peter Parker.
And typically, the media has lapped it up as if Peter Parker really is going to be consigned to the dustbin of comics history.
Clearly this plot will evolve over the next six months or so until Peter returns as Spider-Man.
But it's not all that bold at all. It's amazingly similar to when Cassandra Nova 'died' in Grant Morrison's run on X-Men. (Prof. X was trapped in her body, she in his. Her body died with Prof X in it and she then continued her craziness in his body. No-one knew...)
But for something like this to happen to Spider-Man - that's way out of the comfort zone for what we're used to seeing with this character.
Ultimate Spider-Man - there was a story which involved PP swapping bodies with Logan for a few issues. It also happened with Spider-Girl in whatever universe she lives in and I'm sure, somewhere, similar has already happened with PP in the 616.
It's comics! How can anything be out of someone's comfort zone?!?
Spiderman 400 came out in 1995 after 34 years of the comic. Now, 17 years later - we've hit 700.
Did they start releasing ASM twice a month?
I think it's now down to twice a month (which it was for a period in the late 80s/early 90s, too)
Yeah, but that was all goofy, disposable nonsense happening in the sidelines - not core flagship title stuff!
You're coming across as more of a fanboy than even me
I agree with some of the comments though that this is quite obviously just a huge publicity stunt and seemed a wee bit rushed bar that last bit with Pete's emotions and all that merging with Doc Ock. On a side note what do people think of Beast's new look as of All New X-Men #5?
Maybe so, but in my defence I'd consider myself a first and foremost a fanboy for Dan Slott the writer (as opposed to Spider-Man the character)!
Slott could have easily given us the standard 'hero goes down in a blaze of glory fighting his mortal enemies'. We'd have had the 'funeral issue' and then Ben Riley or someone else fill in for 6-8 months.
No different to Batman's crippling by Bane or Superman's death at the hands of Doomsday.
But the psychological re-wiring of Doc Ock's mind into that a hero, inhabiting Spider-Man's body - that still feels like something interesting and new. In my mind, I'm imagining Slott will be able to give us something a bit like the TV series Dexter - a hero who has to constantly hide his true nature from those close to him. It's kind of a double secret-identity now, which will make for some really complex character interactions between this new Spider-man and his friends and team-mates.
A non-Ultimates version of Miles Morales you mean? I really liked the initial Miles Morales storylines but less so now.
Also, not to be a prig but I came into this thread having read Spider-Man 700 well aware there would be spoilers. It'd be nice if we could limit spoilers from other comics that I might pick up in TPB or at least tag them please.
I preferred Slott when he was on less editorially controlled titles, up to working on things like She-Hulk and the various GLA stuff. From Avengers:Initiative onwards he's been reeled in but, like I said, editorial controls are much stronger on stuff like Avengers and Spider-Man.