All the major members of the Cabinet, including the PM, have found time to be interviewed on LBC over the past couple of days. Pity Mr Milliband couldn't fit them in last week.
Why would he want to go on an ultra right wing radio station?
We can certainly go back in time and discuss how the economy was kept going at various points in history if you wish: Empire, slave labour, large-scale reliance on subsistence farming, wars, Dickensian underclass ... take your pick of the period.
None of these are relevant to today though. The population must carry on growing as it is the only way the older generations can be looked after. Look at the concern an ageing population or an outright decline is causing in Japan or Russia. As I mentioned earlier: with a falling birth rate amongst Britain born citizens, we need to make up for the population deficit somehow.
Not sure where you get all that from.
Potkettle said 'how did we manage before immigration'
You asked 'when was that?'
I answered, nothing more
All the major members of the Cabinet, including the PM, have found time to be interviewed on LBC over the past couple of days. Pity Mr Milliband couldn't fit them in last week.
Think of the chance to address not only London but the whole country and try to convince them of his ideas and policies, eve if only for 10 minutes or so that he missed. If he only wants to go on the BBC or whatever, fine, but you'd think his advisors would tell him to jump at any chance to prove he's a decent prospective PM. Oh well.
Think of the chance to address not only London but the whole country and try to convince them of his ideas and policies, eve if only for 10 minutes or so that he missed. If he only wants to go on the BBC or whatever, fine, but you'd think his advisors would tell him to jump at any chance to prove he's a decent prospective PM. Oh well.
I get the impression that he (and his team) know full well that the less he says the better. That way, Labour will win by default.
Julia Hartley-Brewer sounds like a fully paid up member of the Conservative party today. She's defending the party against any accusation made by callers to her show, it's as if she's scared of getting on the wrong side of the whip and following the party line to a tee.
I know a lot of the regular posters on here really like Clive Bull but I am finding him to be playing far too safe in general over several months now.
He avoids a lot of topical political subjects/issues and only seems to want to talk politics every now and then and when he does talk politics, he seems to be very keen on Tony Blair and Politics and "Policies to only be done in the Tony Blair way of doing things. Its why I think he now favours the Tories more than Labour.
I also do not like all these endless Help Hour phone inns he keeps on doing. I think its a further way of avoiding key topical subjects and more playing it safe.
I suspect the reason why he took that time out was because he gets too stressed dealing with topical issues and if he does, why does he get stressed out for?
I know some of you will say thaty topical issues are done too much on LBC but A, I think they need to be and B, not everyone listens to most of the shows. A lot of people will only listen to part of the shows and especially as and when they might be leaving work in the evenings.
I know a lot of the regular posters on here really like Clive Bull but I am finding him to be playing far too safe in general over several months now.
He avoids a lot of topical political subjects/issues and only seems to want to talk politics every now and then and when he does talk politics, he seems to be very keen on Tony Blair and Politics and "Policies to only be done in the Tony Blair way of doing things. Its why I think he now favours the Tories more than Labour.
You'd never know what CB stands for as he always sits on the fence and has never revealed any political empathy or come to that any personal information about himself whenever I've heard him. That is in complete contrast to every other presenter on LBC.
I rarely listen these days to CB as I find him incredibly bland. He seems to be devoid of an opinion on anything other than perhaps football when he has occasionally let loose a comment of criticism of the England team. Other than that you may as well have a robot doing his show.
You'd never know what CB stands for as he always sits on the fence and has never revealed any political empathy or come to that any personal information about himself whenever I've heard him. That is in complete contrast to every other presenter on LBC.
I rarely listen these days to CB as I find him incredibly bland. He seems to be devoid of an opinion on anything other than perhaps football when he has occasionally let loose a comment of criticism of the England team. Other than that you may as well have a robot doing his show.
I've got no doubt that Clive Bull was a Tony Blair/New Labour person but is not a proper Labour person at all and is now more "attracted" to anyone like Blair which is Cameron. I've heard a lot of his shows over the years and I think he's made it pretty obvious where he lies politically but his shows over the last few months I have found uber boring.
The other night though, think it was Monday night, whatever station I switched too I also found them to be boring and even worse and the music stations imo were palying uber crap music.
I've just seen this & was wondering if Clegg, would fancy a 04.00 till 06.30 mon/fri job with LBC, couldn't be any worse than the bloke thats on @ the moment ???
I've just seen this & was wondering if Clegg, would fancy a 04.00 till 06.30 mon/fri job with LBC, couldn't be any worse than the bloke thats on @ the moment ???
I watched some of his speech this afternoon and it was very rousing. If only we didn't have to read between the lines, and could believe all his promises.
But comparing UKIP to the German National Socialists of the 30s was disgusting even by his standards.
Why?
Don't like Roma gypsies much: check
Don't like gays much, especially the married kind: check
Blame foreigners/ those not British enough : check
Spout much rubbish about the Empire/ Commonwealth: check
Like 'strong leaders' like Putin: check
You see it as tripping up a caller - I see it as challenging a caller to come up with the goods and justify an opinion. Most of the time, anyway. As has so often been said, the anti-Europe callers and generally entirely unable to come up with any examples of how Europe affects their lives. Similarly with UKIP voters - they generally can't name a single UKIP policy that isn't about immigration, and yet have such strong, vehement opinions. Where JOB is so good is in showing this up, although it always amazes me how stubbornly people can hold on to views, even in the face of his often excellent line of questioning.
It's not just UKIP though, many supporters of the other party's would fall over with that type of questioning.
It's not just UKIP though, many supporters of the other party's would fall over with that type of questioning.
I disagree. I think people would be much more able to name at least the general policies and direction of the major parties on a number of issues. UKIP callers seem completely unaware that non-immigration policies even exist.
Tahiti I hope you read this.Comparing UKIP to germany in the 30's is disgusting and ill informed,read your history.Your arguments are skewed.
What Nigel Farage thinks of Roma gypsies I know not.But I am not in favour of people sleeping rough in the West end leaving and creating filth.I do know as my son works there.
Also setting up camp in our open spaces which are meant for everyone to enjoy.Why are they here?Ask yourself that.
I don't understand the point about 'married gays'sorry,what's this about?
No one is blaming foreigners,but if we suddenly have a surge in immigration leading to severe overcrowding of our country it stands to reason they come from some other country,therefore they must be foreign.How many people do you think this small island can accommodate?70 million,90 million,unlimited?
Finally you can recognise someone as a strong leader even if you do not like them.
Not at all. Anyone with left wing views gets hostile ride on this thread from those that try to supress opinions that differ from their own. It's sometimes interesting to sit back and see all the right wingers constantly making political posts which they criticise others for doing. Today is a case in point.
Regarding the LBC tweet that some people are getting their knickers in a twist over, it's just LBC bigging up one of their presenter rather than expressing a political view. The audio was "Easily [their] most popular clip of the week" so of course LBC are going to praise Mr O'Brien for the job he did.
Despite the "punches" that he supposedly landed during his famous interview, Brian FEARS The Farridge and I love it. One of the most delicious and delightful effects of the rise of UKIP is that the vile and repulsive lefty-wefties are so rattled and frantic. Finally there is a proud, bold and wholesale pushback against their poison.
The "Lefty-wefties" have a lot to be happy about, it just that LBC haven't reported the full story in preference to having a UKIP love-in. The Green vote went up in both by-elections, beating the Lib Dems in both cases but don't think LBC highlighted that point today. The Labour share of vote in Heywood and Middleton actually increased but you wouldn't believe that from how LBC reported the results. So it you are a "left-wefty" you can be happy that UKIP are taking votes mainly from what the Prime Minister calls the "effing Tories".
Don't like Roma gypsies much: check
Don't like gays much, especially the married kind: check
Blame foreigners/ those not British enough : check
Spout much rubbish about the Empire/ Commonwealth: check
Like 'strong leaders' like Putin: check
Europe affects our live in many ways to pinpoint one where would you start.The latest seems to be we will not be allowed a powerful efficient vacuum cleaner.
This is a directive that has been known for for years, and it is designed to encourage energy efficiency and the reduction of CO2 emissions by improving the design of electrical equipment. 'Efficient' and 'powerful' are quite different things.
The EU is governed by law makers who are unelected,anonymous to most people,and cannot be voted out of office.
David Cameron was not directly elected either. The legitimacy of the European Commission is derived from its approval by the European Parliament, the members of which are directly elected. The system is quite similar to ours in Britain.
Having said that, IMO since UKIP entered the arena of public discussion, the quality of political debate has gone down.
I agree. I've said it before - I know enough about Europe to know that I don't enough to make a proper value judgement. But I also know that I'm not going to get educated by listening to LBC these days, sadly.
To suggest the LBC tweets are bias against UKIP is far from the truth. Yesterday it was an endless stream of UKIP propaganda:
"Farage: We want a relationship with Europe based on trade but not on a political union"
"Farage: People who come to work in low pay jobs should not automatically qualify for in work benefits"
"Farage says income tax should be abolished for anyone on minimum wage"
Also, LBC employs UKIP's former press officer as one of its main presenters, Farage has his own regular phone in show on the station and LBC regularly discusses UKIP far in excess of its popularity in London.
To suggest the LBC tweets are bias against UKIP is far from the truth. Yesterday it was an endless stream of UKIP propaganda:
"Farage: We want a relationship with Europe based on trade but not on a political union"
"Farage: People who come to work in low pay jobs should not automatically qualify for in work benefits"
"Farage says income tax should be abolished for anyone on minimum wage"
Also, LBC employs UKIP's former press officers as one of it's main presenters, Farage has his own regular phone in show on the station and LBC regularly discusses UKIP far in excess of it's popularity in London.
Politics on the politics thread please, I don't read those posts.
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Why would he want to go on an ultra right wing radio station?
You mean he should stick to preaching to the converted?
Not sure where you get all that from.
Potkettle said 'how did we manage before immigration'
You asked 'when was that?'
I answered, nothing more
Think of the chance to address not only London but the whole country and try to convince them of his ideas and policies, eve if only for 10 minutes or so that he missed. If he only wants to go on the BBC or whatever, fine, but you'd think his advisors would tell him to jump at any chance to prove he's a decent prospective PM. Oh well.
Should make the leaders' TV debates interesting! ;-)
It's disgraceful.
He avoids a lot of topical political subjects/issues and only seems to want to talk politics every now and then and when he does talk politics, he seems to be very keen on Tony Blair and Politics and "Policies to only be done in the Tony Blair way of doing things. Its why I think he now favours the Tories more than Labour.
I also do not like all these endless Help Hour phone inns he keeps on doing. I think its a further way of avoiding key topical subjects and more playing it safe.
I suspect the reason why he took that time out was because he gets too stressed dealing with topical issues and if he does, why does he get stressed out for?
I know some of you will say thaty topical issues are done too much on LBC but A, I think they need to be and B, not everyone listens to most of the shows. A lot of people will only listen to part of the shows and especially as and when they might be leaving work in the evenings.
I rarely listen these days to CB as I find him incredibly bland. He seems to be devoid of an opinion on anything other than perhaps football when he has occasionally let loose a comment of criticism of the England team. Other than that you may as well have a robot doing his show.
I've got no doubt that Clive Bull was a Tony Blair/New Labour person but is not a proper Labour person at all and is now more "attracted" to anyone like Blair which is Cameron. I've heard a lot of his shows over the years and I think he's made it pretty obvious where he lies politically but his shows over the last few months I have found uber boring.
The other night though, think it was Monday night, whatever station I switched too I also found them to be boring and even worse and the music stations imo were palying uber crap music.
http://order-order.com/2014/10/08/flood-of-pre-speech-bets-on-clegg-to-quit/
Well no sign of him quitting .. yet !
I watched some of his speech this afternoon and it was very rousing. If only we didn't have to read between the lines, and could believe all his promises.
Why?
Don't like Roma gypsies much: check
Don't like gays much, especially the married kind: check
Blame foreigners/ those not British enough : check
Spout much rubbish about the Empire/ Commonwealth: check
Like 'strong leaders' like Putin: check
It's not just UKIP though, many supporters of the other party's would fall over with that type of questioning.
I disagree. I think people would be much more able to name at least the general policies and direction of the major parties on a number of issues. UKIP callers seem completely unaware that non-immigration policies even exist.
What Nigel Farage thinks of Roma gypsies I know not.But I am not in favour of people sleeping rough in the West end leaving and creating filth.I do know as my son works there.
Also setting up camp in our open spaces which are meant for everyone to enjoy.Why are they here?Ask yourself that.
I don't understand the point about 'married gays'sorry,what's this about?
No one is blaming foreigners,but if we suddenly have a surge in immigration leading to severe overcrowding of our country it stands to reason they come from some other country,therefore they must be foreign.How many people do you think this small island can accommodate?70 million,90 million,unlimited?
Finally you can recognise someone as a strong leader even if you do not like them.
Not at all. Anyone with left wing views gets hostile ride on this thread from those that try to supress opinions that differ from their own. It's sometimes interesting to sit back and see all the right wingers constantly making political posts which they criticise others for doing. Today is a case in point.
Regarding LBC having a right wing bias, even a right wing newspaper like the Evening Standard have made that point.
Regarding the LBC tweet that some people are getting their knickers in a twist over, it's just LBC bigging up one of their presenter rather than expressing a political view. The audio was "Easily [their] most popular clip of the week" so of course LBC are going to praise Mr O'Brien for the job he did.
The "Lefty-wefties" have a lot to be happy about, it just that LBC haven't reported the full story in preference to having a UKIP love-in. The Green vote went up in both by-elections, beating the Lib Dems in both cases but don't think LBC highlighted that point today. The Labour share of vote in Heywood and Middleton actually increased but you wouldn't believe that from how LBC reported the results. So it you are a "left-wefty" you can be happy that UKIP are taking votes mainly from what the Prime Minister calls the "effing Tories".
Agreed.
None, plenty of champagne socialists though.
This is a directive that has been known for for years, and it is designed to encourage energy efficiency and the reduction of CO2 emissions by improving the design of electrical equipment. 'Efficient' and 'powerful' are quite different things.
David Cameron was not directly elected either. The legitimacy of the European Commission is derived from its approval by the European Parliament, the members of which are directly elected. The system is quite similar to ours in Britain.
I agree. I've said it before - I know enough about Europe to know that I don't enough to make a proper value judgement. But I also know that I'm not going to get educated by listening to LBC these days, sadly.
To suggest the LBC tweets are bias against UKIP is far from the truth. Yesterday it was an endless stream of UKIP propaganda:
"Farage: We want a relationship with Europe based on trade but not on a political union"
"Farage: People who come to work in low pay jobs should not automatically qualify for in work benefits"
"Farage says income tax should be abolished for anyone on minimum wage"
Also, LBC employs UKIP's former press officer as one of its main presenters, Farage has his own regular phone in show on the station and LBC regularly discusses UKIP far in excess of its popularity in London.
Politics on the politics thread please, I don't read those posts.