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Darling vs. Salmond, 5th August 2014
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The Darling vs. Salmond debate will be held tomorrow night (Tuesday) and will be shown on STV plus the web. I'm surprised it's not on the radio as well.
Will you be watching it, and what are you expecting the result to be? Do you think that David Cameron, as UK Pm is too afraid of debating with Salmond or are his excuses valid? Will it change anyone's mind?
Personally, I'm intending to watch it but expect a closer debate than Clegg vs. Farage as Darling will be much better prepared than Clegg, but unless Darling says something radical and can back it up with actions later in the week, I still expect to be a Yes voter (head over-ruling the heart).
Will you be watching it, and what are you expecting the result to be? Do you think that David Cameron, as UK Pm is too afraid of debating with Salmond or are his excuses valid? Will it change anyone's mind?
Personally, I'm intending to watch it but expect a closer debate than Clegg vs. Farage as Darling will be much better prepared than Clegg, but unless Darling says something radical and can back it up with actions later in the week, I still expect to be a Yes voter (head over-ruling the heart).
How to watch
Broadcast
Salmond and Darling: The Debate will also be broadcast on STV from 8pm on 10pm on August 5. It will also be shown live in the south of Scotland covered by ITV's Border region on Channel 3.
The debate programme will be repeated on STV Glasgow on Tuesday from 11.15pm and again on Wednesday August 6 at 1.30pm.
Online
Viewers in Scotland, from the rest of the UK, and across the world will be able to watch the debate online with a globally available livestream on the STV Player.
A full replay of the debate for a worldwide audience is expected to be available within hours of the end of the programme on the STV Player.
Social media
Viewers will be encouraged to join the debate from home throughout using the hashtag #ScotDecides on Twitter, Facebook and Google+.
Clips of the debate will shared by STV on social media during the debate.
Scotland Tonight
The debate will be followed by a special extended edition of Scotland Tonight from 10.30pm featuring analysis of how the two politicians performed in the face-off.
Scottish viewers will be able to watch Scotland Tonight programme as normal on the STV Player.
International and UK viewers will be able to watch the reaction show on our Scotland Tonight page.
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Having said that at two hours I doubt many would watch it, or if they did not for long.
I'd expect Salmond will wipe the floor with Darling - though whether that will actually change anyones vote is another matter.
I gave up with the leaders debates in 2010 after ten minutes as it was quite clear which way they were going. Wonder how many people are still saying I agree with Nick
However the only debates of this type that I watched in full were the Clegg - Farage debate. What was interesting about them was after the first debate finished all the assembled political journalists were giving a clear win to Clegg. It was not until Sky released their public opinion poll after about twenty minutes that it became clear that the public had Farage as the clear winner. Queue rapid back tracking by the journalists. I suspect the Darling - Salmond debate will go much the same way with the political journalists giving the win to whoever they favour personally and irrespective of what Salmond or Darling say ....................
I would have thought that the news channels would dip into it but I can't see anyone having the fortitude or interest to last the whole two hours.
Yes, Salmond is sure to turn his charm up to the max while Darling will do his usual impression of an undertaker. Darling will ask for details and Salmond will just wave any concerns away. Both sides will claim victory. It's all so inevitable
Salmon reminds me of Farage in many ways, they are both smooth and sound like they are talking sense.
Yes, there is a lot of similarities between the two of them in terms of their cheeky chap personality, charisma and their ability to play the outsider . The only other UK politician who I'd put in a similar category is Boris Johnson. In an age of grey and boring politicians, they all that undefinable political X factor that people respond to even if they don't necessarily agree with what they say.
What Labour would give for a leader with an ounce of charisma.
I seriously doubt we will learn anything we don't already know
They are both nationalists both blaming the dead hand of a respective 'superstate' and both peddling easy solutions. A Salmond-Farage debate would be fun to watch though- battle of the snake oil salesmen.
Does seem rather petty by Salmond to insist on this - we can watch US presidential debates but not Scottish independence ones which of course directly affect the rest of the UK.
They will still use the pound, even though the BoE say they can't, they can stay in the eurozone as a seperate country, not sure.
They will use Faslane as a bargaining tool, Babcock have said there will be massive job losses, Alex says they will base the Scottish navy there and there will be no job losses.
The man hasn't got a clue that's why there will be a NO vote.
No great loss really, I doubt many Scots will watch it either.
Have you ever listened to the shite Salmond spouts.
Has he? I thought it was a decision by STV/ITV.
Prediction...
It'll be just another hearts v heads slanging match/snorefest with free flowing accusations of scaremongering, blind optimism and BS from all sides.
No doubt the winner will be judged on style not substance and nobody will be any the wiser on any of the questions the public might want answering.
I'd love to be proved wrong and be sat here eating a humble pie breakfast this time tomorrow, but something tells me cornflakes will still be on the menu.
BOE said it would actually,
Watch out for Best of Both worlds and Scotland will get the government it votes for statements.
I wasnt planning to watch this one because of this but it may be interesting to pre-make an independence bullshit Bingo sheet and play along.
The one that will really win is the one who will realise they are out to win the undecided voter and not the tit for tat slagging match on the night.
I suspect Salmond will win the tit for tat and lose the economic argument.
STV will now be in the other channels section under the services button. Unfortunately this method doesn't allow recording, so you'll have to watch live.
Also expect Salmond to go on about how he's not anti English at all and Darling to say that you couldn't get anyone more proud to be Scots than him.
Better things to do than watch what will be claim v counter claim, no meeting of minds and no new information, but plenty of promises from Salmond about how a new socialist super-rich state will emerge where everything is "free" and how Scotland will use the pound anyway - so there!!
Incidentally unless you have missed a great deal there's no shortage of the project fear factor about the SNP especially how the NHS is to be privatised.
No doubt Salmond will continue to use his usual response to all difficult issues by claiming it's all bluff and bluster with the odd bullying claim thrown in for good measure.
His bluster will be more entertaining, but at least Darling pays for his own trousers rather than sponging off the taxpayer.
Eh? It looks like you haven't been keeping up with the debate and the information on these issues, and are (quelle surprise) blaming the FM for your own lack of knowledge. What you're essentially saying is you think (hope?) there will be a No vote due to the ignorance of voters.
Did you just make that up? It sounds like tosh!
Do you have a link to the source of that information?